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[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

Originally Posted by 59 Piffy

where is god when a little kid gets cancer? is he punishing them for taking a cookie out of the cookie jar?

religious people are usually the ones who claim suicide is "weak" and that only "cowards" take their own life, but im pretty sure they dont consider those who commit adultery cowards.

the bible also states that "the child shall pay for the fathers sin"

Hmm so you believe everything that's said in the bible cause I'm bout to OD on you

Most "christians" pick and choose their passages......but if YOU believe every single word I will post some to test you "faith"

 

[rocky437]

...God gave us the power to make our own choices. Some choose to kill themselves, some choose to be lazy, some choose to work hard etc.

Also, you talk about people with cancer?  ..

God is not involved with mankind on that level, as mankind for the most part has rejected God. So we suffer the consequences along with the rest of mankind as a result. Mankind is learning a lesson now; life without God's involvement. In the end though, God does get involved, and as it is written, all tears will be removed.

Birth defects can have many causes, but to blame God is to blame God for what mankind has done; not what God has done.

God calls all mankind to repent; turn to Him, and He promises healing. It is a healing of the mind. Our short sojourn here in the infirmities of the flesh is temporary.

If you turn to Him, He may well heal the one child in the womb. Have the faith to know that, regardless of the outcome, God is still in charge.

 

[rocky437]

...God gave us the power to make our own choices. Some choose to kill themselves, some choose to be lazy, some choose to work hard etc.

Also, you talk about people with cancer?  ..

God is not involved with mankind on that level, as mankind for the most part has rejected God. So we suffer the consequences along with the rest of mankind as a result. Mankind is learning a lesson now; life without God's involvement. In the end though, God does get involved, and as it is written, all tears will be removed.

Birth defects can have many causes, but to blame God is to blame God for what mankind has done; not what God has done.

God calls all mankind to repent; turn to Him, and He promises healing. It is a healing of the mind. Our short sojourn here in the infirmities of the flesh is temporary.

If you turn to Him, He may well heal the one child in the womb. Have the faith to know that, regardless of the outcome, God is still in charge.

 

[northmiamiboi]

god is a spirit..

 

[northmiamiboi]

god is a spirit..

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by Rocky437

...God gave us the power to make our own choices. Some choose to kill themselves, some choose to be lazy, some choose to work hard etc.

Also, you talk about people with cancer?  ..

God is not involved with mankind on that level, as mankind for the most part has rejected God. So we suffer the consequences along with the rest of mankind as a result. Mankind is learning a lesson now; life without God's involvement. In the end though, God does get involved, and as it is written, all tears will be removed.

Birth defects can have many causes, but to blame God is to blame God for what mankind has done; not what God has done.

God calls all mankind to repent; turn to Him, and He promises healing. It is a healing of the mind. Our short sojourn here in the infirmities of the flesh is temporary.

If you turn to Him, He may well heal the one child in the womb. Have the faith to know that, regardless of the outcome, God is still in charge.

Yes God kills and saves. He kills innocent children to prove his point but saves whoever has good luck (I mean believes in him). So if I get cancer today (God forbid-pun intended) and I through it-it's a bloody miracle.....but if the next man dies God meant to do it. It's part of his "plan".

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by Rocky437

...God gave us the power to make our own choices. Some choose to kill themselves, some choose to be lazy, some choose to work hard etc.

Also, you talk about people with cancer?  ..

God is not involved with mankind on that level, as mankind for the most part has rejected God. So we suffer the consequences along with the rest of mankind as a result. Mankind is learning a lesson now; life without God's involvement. In the end though, God does get involved, and as it is written, all tears will be removed.

Birth defects can have many causes, but to blame God is to blame God for what mankind has done; not what God has done.

God calls all mankind to repent; turn to Him, and He promises healing. It is a healing of the mind. Our short sojourn here in the infirmities of the flesh is temporary.

If you turn to Him, He may well heal the one child in the womb. Have the faith to know that, regardless of the outcome, God is still in charge.

Yes God kills and saves. He kills innocent children to prove his point but saves whoever has good luck (I mean believes in him). So if I get cancer today (God forbid-pun intended) and I through it-it's a bloody miracle.....but if the next man dies God meant to do it. It's part of his "plan".

 

[Deleted member 41978]

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

you must seek god in order for him to save you

That right there. 

& don't blame God for a person commiting suicide. The Devil plays his roll on people too and its up to the person to choose which way he wants to go

 

[Deleted member 41978]

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

you must seek god in order for him to save you

That right there. 

& don't blame God for a person commiting suicide. The Devil plays his roll on people too and its up to the person to choose which way he wants to go

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

Originally Posted by 59 Piffy

where is god when a little kid gets cancer? is he punishing them for taking a cookie out of the cookie jar?

religious people are usually the ones who claim suicide is "weak" and that only "cowards" take their own life, but im pretty sure they dont consider those who commit adultery cowards.

the bible also states that "the child shall pay for the fathers sin"

That is the worst garbage ever... Any person of faith, should look at that and say that is +@+%$+%@....  Why should a child have to pay for the sins of his farther? How is that just for a child to pay for a sin that may or may not have been done before he was even born?



  

Originally Posted by Tom Robinson

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

you must seek god in order for him to save you

That right there. 

& don't blame God for a person commiting suicide. The Devil plays his roll on people too and its up to the person to choose which way he wants to go

So any person who kills themself chose to follow the Devil? 

We have all these rules, and all these occurances of how god is this awesome being..

But when there is *!%!#% up things, tragedy, and injustice you pass it off to something else..  

  

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by NORTHMIAMIBOI

god is a spirit..

you don't know what god is

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by NORTHMIAMIBOI

god is a spirit..

you don't know what god is

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

Originally Posted by 59 Piffy

where is god when a little kid gets cancer? is he punishing them for taking a cookie out of the cookie jar?

religious people are usually the ones who claim suicide is "weak" and that only "cowards" take their own life, but im pretty sure they dont consider those who commit adultery cowards.

the bible also states that "the child shall pay for the fathers sin"

That is the worst garbage ever... Any person of faith, should look at that and say that is +@+%$+%@....  Why should a child have to pay for the sins of his farther? How is that just for a child to pay for a sin that may or may not have been done before he was even born?



  

Originally Posted by Tom Robinson

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

you must seek god in order for him to save you

That right there. 

& don't blame God for a person commiting suicide. The Devil plays his roll on people too and its up to the person to choose which way he wants to go

So any person who kills themself chose to follow the Devil? 

We have all these rules, and all these occurances of how god is this awesome being..

But when there is *!%!#% up things, tragedy, and injustice you pass it off to something else..  

  

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

Originally Posted by 59 Piffy

where is god when a little kid gets cancer? is he punishing them for taking a cookie out of the cookie jar?

religious people are usually the ones who claim suicide is "weak" and that only "cowards" take their own life, but im pretty sure they dont consider those who commit adultery cowards.

the bible also states that "the child shall pay for the fathers sin"

That is the worst garbage ever... Any person of faith, should look at that and say that is $$!@@$+%....  Why should a child have to pay for the sins of his farther? How is that just for a child to pay for a sin that may or may not have been done before he was even born?



  

Honestly, out of all the religious debates ive had on NT....59 fiftys comment might possibly be the most ignorant comment ever.

Jesus Christ died on the cross to erase the original sin. Everyone preceding his crucifixion was born a sinner.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

Originally Posted by 59 Piffy

where is god when a little kid gets cancer? is he punishing them for taking a cookie out of the cookie jar?

religious people are usually the ones who claim suicide is "weak" and that only "cowards" take their own life, but im pretty sure they dont consider those who commit adultery cowards.

the bible also states that "the child shall pay for the fathers sin"

That is the worst garbage ever... Any person of faith, should look at that and say that is $$!@@$+%....  Why should a child have to pay for the sins of his farther? How is that just for a child to pay for a sin that may or may not have been done before he was even born?



  

Honestly, out of all the religious debates ive had on NT....59 fiftys comment might possibly be the most ignorant comment ever.

Jesus Christ died on the cross to erase the original sin. Everyone preceding his crucifixion was born a sinner.

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy


the bible also states that "the child shall pay for the fathers sin"

That is the worst garbage ever... Any person of faith, should look at that and say that is $$!@@$+%....  Why should a child have to pay for the sins of his farther? How is that just for a child to pay for a sin that may or may not have been done before he was even born?



  

Honestly, out of all the religious debates ive had on NT....59 fiftys comment might possibly be the most ignorant comment ever.

Jesus Christ died on the cross to erase the original sin. Everyone preceding his crucifixion was born a sinner.

It doesn't matter whether or not you are born a sinner.. Every single one of us in this thread and even the biggest faith follower is a sinner.. Just those who repent the hardest make it in..

*Shrugs*

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy


the bible also states that "the child shall pay for the fathers sin"

That is the worst garbage ever... Any person of faith, should look at that and say that is $$!@@$+%....  Why should a child have to pay for the sins of his farther? How is that just for a child to pay for a sin that may or may not have been done before he was even born?



  

Honestly, out of all the religious debates ive had on NT....59 fiftys comment might possibly be the most ignorant comment ever.

Jesus Christ died on the cross to erase the original sin. Everyone preceding his crucifixion was born a sinner.

It doesn't matter whether or not you are born a sinner.. Every single one of us in this thread and even the biggest faith follower is a sinner.. Just those who repent the hardest make it in..

*Shrugs*

 

[vsano]

I think, when your conscience tries to tell you to stop the act of committing suicide, & you get to see your life flashing back especially the good memories, to me that's God working. You don't expect to see angels trying to save you.

 

[vsano]

I think, when your conscience tries to tell you to stop the act of committing suicide, & you get to see your life flashing back especially the good memories, to me that's God working. You don't expect to see angels trying to save you.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by Essential1


That is the worst garbage ever... Any person of faith, should look at that and say that is $$!@@$+%....  Why should a child have to pay for the sins of his farther? How is that just for a child to pay for a sin that may or may not have been done before he was even born?



  

Honestly, out of all the religious debates ive had on NT....59 fiftys comment might possibly be the most ignorant comment ever.

Jesus Christ died on the cross to erase the original sin. Everyone preceding his crucifixion was born a sinner.

It doesn't matter whether or not you are born a sinner.. Every single one of us in this thread and even the biggest faith follower is a sinner.. Just those who repent the hardest make it in..

*Shrugs*

I never said I wasnt a "sinner" by the bible's standards....I'm just giving you a fact from the bible as far as christianity goes. Jesu Christo was crucified for a reason....an utterly ridiculious reason but a  "good" reason otherwise. His zombie "death" was supposed to negate the original sin

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by Essential1


That is the worst garbage ever... Any person of faith, should look at that and say that is $$!@@$+%....  Why should a child have to pay for the sins of his farther? How is that just for a child to pay for a sin that may or may not have been done before he was even born?



  

Honestly, out of all the religious debates ive had on NT....59 fiftys comment might possibly be the most ignorant comment ever.

Jesus Christ died on the cross to erase the original sin. Everyone preceding his crucifixion was born a sinner.

It doesn't matter whether or not you are born a sinner.. Every single one of us in this thread and even the biggest faith follower is a sinner.. Just those who repent the hardest make it in..

*Shrugs*

I never said I wasnt a "sinner" by the bible's standards....I'm just giving you a fact from the bible as far as christianity goes. Jesu Christo was crucified for a reason....an utterly ridiculious reason but a  "good" reason otherwise. His zombie "death" was supposed to negate the original sin

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by Vsano

I think, when your conscience tries to tell you to stop the act of committing suicide, & you get to see your life flashing back especially the good memories, to me that's God working. You don't expect to see angels trying to save you.

well its God working for people who don't go through with it right? So where does that leave people who "successfully" kill themselves

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by Vsano

I think, when your conscience tries to tell you to stop the act of committing suicide, & you get to see your life flashing back especially the good memories, to me that's God working. You don't expect to see angels trying to save you.

well its God working for people who don't go through with it right? So where does that leave people who "successfully" kill themselves

 

[antonlavey]

I almost got ran over my a car.....that's God is you ask me. F*ck whoever actually got ran over by a car

 

[antonlavey]

I almost got ran over my a car.....that's God is you ask me. F*ck whoever actually got ran over by a car