Originally Posted by iWhipMyHeadovv
Originally Posted by Dmvbatman
Originally Posted by i LyricaLJKilla i
So for your first post you state it like it's fact....
..then you're questioned on it....and then you provide a link that provides no concrete info....and decide to roll with your opinion?
Man, stop.
what you mean no concrete info? i said its the most popular, duke second link clearly shows that their are MLB teams making more money than NFL teams.......
did you click each link?
Game Four of the World Series on Sunday drew an average TV audience of 22.8 million viewers. That was the highest among the first five games and the largest baseball audience since 2004,
then
But that argument ignores another set of numbers from Sunday afternoon. Fox's broadcast of the Vikings-Packers game logged an average of 29.8 million viewers. A championship baseball game featuring two major markets can't keep pace with a regular-season football game in the smallest market in big-time sports.
baseball is so popular man.
Originally Posted by CurbYourEnthusiasm
when common first came out nobody from chicago got any sort of attention whatsoever (buzz is subjective) This is you stating what you believe the masses knew
the song "i used to love h.e.r." is infinitely more important than any song lupe has ever recorded. (your opinion)
i like lupe as a rapper, but he cant make songs nor albums.....so using that in an argument just confuses me. (i like his music i don't get why thats hard to understand i am not you)
when i used to love h.e.r. came out, i was just barely old enough to remember it, so at 24, no way you remember it. (i heard the song in my early thirsty rap years same time i was heavy into pac about 5th grade in the angry young kid stage so it never struck a real cord with me you love chicago brool story co)
once common got on with kanye, they made be
be is a better album than lupe has ever made. (opinion)
common was one of the first, if not the first chicago rapper with any buzz (opinion based on what you believed to be the popular opinion of the time)
hes been around for a while after making a top 20 rap song all time (opinion because numbers don't support that claim)
and had a minor "comeback" when he teamed up with kanye (minor....)
you cant diminish his history then give props to someone like lupe, who, unfortunately, may not even be around much longer....especially if he keeps making lasers-quality music... (not diminishing him just giving props to a new class i have said i like commons music)
there is only one "on top of the game right now" at any given time (ok agreed)
and much like jordans entire career (not too sure what this is getting at, i like michael jordon though so)
jay z has dominated that title since 96 to recently...so (not a big jay-z fan but respect dude)
lupe has never been "on top of the game right now" either (on top of the game is subjective unless we are talking num 1 albums as top of the game and lasers was a num 1 album, but top of the game is basically popularity i am assuming you mean which can correlate to record sales, argue this point however you want really i believe finding forever hit num 1 too so basically equal as far as "top of the game" to the populous)
so to use that as your reasoning for bashing common and giving props to lupe doesnt make sense..... (I am not bashing common)
again, the only reason hes even being mentioned in this post is because he called out a rapper he thought was soft....(agreed? not too sure what the point is here)
two weeks ago nobody would be discrediting commons contributions to rap history....at all. ( i am not discrediting him, again, he doesn't make my cut for legendary, if you take that as disrespect then i am sorry right me off as crazy or some one that has terrible taste in music, but to say i am completely wrong when we are discussing anything music because my opinion differs is just closed minded)
I get what you are saying and I'm not denying they're pioneers or legends at all, but I guess me being a little kid when they really were on the come up and trailblazing does impact my opinion....I mean Only built for cuban linx is one of my favorite albums of all time but maybe I don't appreciate their overall impact on the music indstry as a whole....thanks for the knowledge though
Originally Posted by Jking0821
Originally Posted by CurbYourEnthusiasm
when common first came out nobody from chicago got any sort of attention whatsoever (buzz is subjective) This is you stating what you believe the masses knew
the song "i used to love h.e.r." is infinitely more important than any song lupe has ever recorded. (your opinion)
i like lupe as a rapper, but he cant make songs nor albums.....so using that in an argument just confuses me. (i like his music i don't get why thats hard to understand i am not you)
when i used to love h.e.r. came out, i was just barely old enough to remember it, so at 24, no way you remember it. (i heard the song in my early thirsty rap years same time i was heavy into pac about 5th grade in the angry young kid stage so it never struck a real cord with me you love chicago brool story co)
once common got on with kanye, they made be
be is a better album than lupe has ever made. (opinion)
common was one of the first, if not the first chicago rapper with any buzz (opinion based on what you believed to be the popular opinion of the time)
hes been around for a while after making a top 20 rap song all time (opinion because numbers don't support that claim)
and had a minor "comeback" when he teamed up with kanye (minor....)
you cant diminish his history then give props to someone like lupe, who, unfortunately, may not even be around much longer....especially if he keeps making lasers-quality music... (not diminishing him just giving props to a new class i have said i like commons music)
there is only one "on top of the game right now" at any given time (ok agreed)
and much like jordans entire career (not too sure what this is getting at, i like michael jordon though so)
jay z has dominated that title since 96 to recently...so (not a big jay-z fan but respect dude)
lupe has never been "on top of the game right now" either (on top of the game is subjective unless we are talking num 1 albums as top of the game and lasers was a num 1 album, but top of the game is basically popularity i am assuming you mean which can correlate to record sales, argue this point however you want really i believe finding forever hit num 1 too so basically equal as far as "top of the game" to the populous)
so to use that as your reasoning for bashing common and giving props to lupe doesnt make sense..... (I am not bashing common)
again, the only reason hes even being mentioned in this post is because he called out a rapper he thought was soft....(agreed? not too sure what the point is here)
two weeks ago nobody would be discrediting commons contributions to rap history....at all. ( i am not discrediting him, again, he doesn't make my cut for legendary, if you take that as disrespect then i am sorry right me off as crazy or some one that has terrible taste in music, but to say i am completely wrong when we are discussing anything music because my opinion differs is just closed minded)
(buzz is subjective) This is you stating what you believe the masses knew
, yeah, okay, find me a chicago rapper period before common.
its not subjective if they literally didnt exist in hip hop LMAO
the song "i used to love h.e.r." is infinitely more important than any song lupe has ever recorded. (your opinion)
moreso popular opinion than MY opinion (hence the post title) i mean the song is the epitome of rap music.....one of the first deep metaphors in rap....always heralded as a top x amount of hip hop songs of all time
if you ask lupe how good the song is, AND THIS IS AN OPINION, i'm sure he'd say its better than most if not all of his own songs...
its a subjective claim that "i used to love her" is better than lupe's music but it can be supported with infinite amounts of information.
its an objective claim to say that its MORE IMPORTANT, tho.....
the song is older, influenced more classical rappers, has withstood the test of a decade + and is still considered a classic single....
nobody listens to i got cha anymore, b.
thats not subjective at all.
i like lupe as a rapper, but he cant make songs nor albums.....so using that in an argument just confuses me. (i like his music i don't get why thats hard to understand i am not you)
im confused as to why you're using your personal opinion to defend lupe, but dismiss my personal opinion for defending common...its confusing. youre contradicting yourself.
on the other hand, i recognize that this is mostly opinion, hence why we're in an opinion post...get it?
lupe hasnt made a single hit his entire career, tho.
daydreaming is the closest he got.....when is the last time you heard that song? WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD A LUPE SONG OUTSIDE OF YOUR OWN ITUNES? thats not a subjective claim, dude....
once common got on with kanye, they made be
be is a better album than lupe has ever made. (opinion)
of course its opinion. how do you want to objectively compare be to any lupe album? sales? common. critical acclaim? common. replay value? common. you tell me how you want to objectively compare your favorite lupe album to Be and we can do that, too
common was one of the first, if not the first chicago rapper with any buzz (opinion based on what you believed to be the popular opinion of the time)
what are you talking about?
CHICAGO WAS ABSENT FROM RAP BEFORE XXL DID AN UNSIGNED HYPE ON COMMON
LMAO THATS NOT MY OPINION BRO
THATS REALITY.
hes been around for a while after making a top 20 rap song all time (opinion because numbers don't support that claim)
, what numbers? lupe goes wood, dude LMAO
what claim? look up "best rap song lists" i promise you i used to love h.e.r. is on more than any lupe songs LMAO
yes, thats popular opinion........how else do you suggest we compare i used to love h.e.r. (undeniable classic, youre only arguing because you are defensive about your opinion) to any lupe song you want.....any song...
you compare them objectively and get back to me.
when i used to love h.e.r. came out, i was just barely old enough to remember it, so at 24, no way you remember it. (i heard the song in my early thirsty rap years same time i was heavy into pac about 5th grade in the angry young kid stage so it never struck a real cord with me you love chicago brool story co)
now i understand why you're not making much sense logically and basically whining back to me at this point; you're mad and offended i questioned your opinion.
you were in 5th grade? i doubt you even grasped the concept of the song....cool tho.
i used to love h.e.r. not hitting a cord with you is my entire point, young man.
and had a minor "comeback" when he teamed up with kanye (minor....)
and it was minor when they outsold lupe LMAOOOOOOOOOO
wait, thats an opinion.
you cant diminish his history then give props to someone like lupe, who, unfortunately, may not even be around much longer....especially if he keeps making lasers-quality music... (not diminishing him just giving props to a new class i have said i like commons music)
you state that his importance is overstated, even when the only importance placed on him is that he was a groundbreaking rapper for the city of chicago, made one of the most classic rap songs of all time, and made a solid album with kanye's help.....LMAO that's still overstating his worth....especially when you compare him to lupe who has zero classical songs....
thats opinion, tho, right? that lupe doesnt have a single classic song, right?
there is only one "on top of the game right now" at any given time (ok agreed)
and much like jordans entire career (not too sure what this is getting at, i like michael jordon though so)
im not entirely sure you get anything ive gotten at since the discussion began.
you're basically saying barkley is an overrated bum because he was never the best player in the NBA at the time......but thats only because jordan, the best ever, was in his prime
same with everyone who rapped during jay z's career
since biggie died, no rapper has been "the best out right now" except jay z....until rap died and now %@%%%# like drake are the best LMAO
so to criticize common to say 'he was never the best out" when he had jay z to compete with
while loving lupe, who doesnt have jay z to compete with...hes competing with lil b LMAO and STILL isnt the best out right now...
(i know man, all opinion)
lupe has never been "on top of the game right now" either (on top of the game is subjective unless we are talking num 1 albums as top of the game and lasers was a num 1 album, but top of the game is basically popularity i am assuming you mean which can correlate to record sales, argue this point however you want really i believe finding forever hit num 1 too so basically equal as far as "top of the game" to the populous)
this is when you start realizing how contradictory your entire common is wack, lupe is amazing argument...
lazers is trash, bro. LMAO number one in what?
top of the game being popularity? you think lupe fiasco is popular bro?
so basically, you admit that lupe and common are equal, by YOUR own standards and opinions? cause they both have had number 1 albums?
again, the only reason hes even being mentioned in this post is because he called out a rapper he thought was soft....(agreed? not too sure what the point is here)
...that you're a hypebeast?
only mentioned common being "not legendary" cause he called drake, who i assume you like, soft.....
thats not a fallacy at all....
