DO WE FIRE BOB BRADLEY?

[deepinthajeep]

?????

Horrendous coaching decisions. Absolutely horrendous. We play uninspired. We get outworked. We're not creative. He makes the WORST roster decisions.Continues to play Beasley, Casey Conner, ect.

Granted there have been injuries, I still can't see us being successful w/ him managing our side.

Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions. But can we get Klinsmenn on the phone please?

 

[socluis90]

I am tired of him. He experiments way too much for my liking.

 

[persiafly]

Brazil & Italy.

USNT does not belong in the same class as those teams. Never been, and won't be any time soon. If you think otherwise you're delusional.

I don't think a coach should be judged based on performance against teams out of his class.

 

[rothypejc]

PersiaFly, a lot of US fans have been unhappy with him for a while.

Bradley should be fired, but USSF won't do it. He's their puppet.

 

[socluis90]

Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Brazil & Italy.

USNT does not belong in the same class as those teams. Never been, and won't be any time soon. If you think otherwise you're delusional.

I don't think a coach should be judged based on performance against teams out of his class.

Seriously? How do you expect to improve as a nation?

 

[persiafly]

PersiaFly, a lot of US fans have been unhappy with him for a while.


True, I guess I just don't get why people are calling for his head now? It makes it seem reactionary. Did USNT fans really think US would have a chanceagainst Italy and Brazil? If anything, I was really impressed that they took a lead against Italy, something that I would not have thought could happen. And alot of these goals and red cards are a result of the stupidity of players that take unnecessary challenges or get dispossessed in crucial areas. The generalscheme seems fine.

 

[DeadsetAce]

it's not just brazil and italy. this team hasn't really shown sign of continued progressed. they've plateau'd and are having problems beatingteams they should be beating with ease.

 

[persiafly]

Originally Posted by socluis90

Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Brazil & Italy.

USNT does not belong in the same class as those teams. Never been, and won't be any time soon. If you think otherwise you're delusional.

I don't think a coach should be judged based on performance against teams out of his class.

Seriously? How do you expect to improve as a nation?

You improve by taking small steps up the mountain, not by trying to climb the damn thing in one stride. Did you expect the US team to go from losing to CostaRica to beating Brazil and Italy? Seriously?

 

[noneofyours25]

Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Brazil & Italy.

USNT does not belong in the same class as those teams. Never been, and won't be any time soon. If you think otherwise you're delusional.

I don't think a coach should be judged based on performance against teams out of his class.

Why should he get a free pass for performances aganist those teams?

If you can't at least compete aganist these teams and show improvement then how do you expect to do anything in the World Cup?

And if you don't want to look at them losing aganist Brazil and Italy then look at their performances aganist Honduras and Costa Rica, one was a lost andthe other was a victory the didn't play good in neither. And expect the same type of play from them aganist Egypt

This team is trash and it needs some major reconstructive work done on it from top to bottom

 

[parada45]

World Cup is next year

Don't you guys think the US is to far along now to hire someone else?

 

[DeadsetAce]

i wish jurgen klinsmann took the job

 

[marionthebarberian]

get erickson on the phone lol

 

[socluis90]

Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Originally Posted by socluis90

Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Brazil & Italy.

USNT does not belong in the same class as those teams. Never been, and won't be any time soon. If you think otherwise you're delusional.

I don't think a coach should be judged based on performance against teams out of his class.

Seriously? How do you expect to improve as a nation?

You improve by taking small steps up the mountain, not by trying to climb the damn thing in one stride. Did you expect the US team to go from losing to Costa Rica to beating Brazil and Italy? Seriously?

The problem is that this team is sliding down the mountain. Well I hate to say it but I admire what Mexico does when they play big teams, they gotoe to toe. Even with their losses their fans are pleased with their team because they played with heart, something the majority of the US is missing. Idon't expect to beat Brazil/Italy but I do expect to make them earn their wins.We were a better team with Bruce Arena.

 

[persiafly]

Originally Posted by socluis90

Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Originally Posted by socluis90

Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Brazil & Italy.

USNT does not belong in the same class as those teams. Never been, and won't be any time soon. If you think otherwise you're delusional.

I don't think a coach should be judged based on performance against teams out of his class.

Seriously? How do you expect to improve as a nation?

You improve by taking small steps up the mountain, not by trying to climb the damn thing in one stride. Did you expect the US team to go from losing to Costa Rica to beating Brazil and Italy? Seriously?

The problem is that this team is sliding down the mountain. Well I hate to say it but I admire what Mexico does when they play big teams, they go toe to toe. Even with their losses their fans are pleased with their team because they played with heart, something the majority of the US is missing. I don't expect to beat Brazil/Italy but I do expect to make them earn their wins.We were a better team with Bruce Arena.

I agree with this. What I'm saying isn't that he shouldn't go, it's that he shouldn't go based on these two games. The first game couldhave been much different if not for a harsh red card from a dumb tackle. If he should go now, he should've been out after Costa Rica. I don't think hedid anything horribly in these two games. Just players making dumb mistakes that you can't make against teams of this quality.

 

[deepinthajeep]

Originally Posted by marionthebarberian

get erickson on the phone lol

^ HANG UP

Persia, I can't co-sign having Beas on the field over Torres and Adu. I just can't. His formations, I can dig, but apparently our training sessions arespilling over to our work on the pitch.

I honestly thought we could beat Italy. We SHOULD have beat them in the 2006WC. Pope got sent off, a we had few bad calls here and there. I would say we wereone of the top 15 teams in the world when we have a squad out there that can actually compete.

Who you're playing is only 1/4 the whole, the personnel you put on the pitch is also 1/4.

We only have 2 midfielders who can actually get Jozy service. We don't have a midfielder that can creatively play along side Mikey Bradley. Players thatcan bring that element of creativity remain on the bench. We really missed Carlos at the back, having to start Boreinstine (

)....but damn, at leastput a side on the field that can compete. The sh*t he does out there completely boggles the mind. You're down 2 goals and you go to Conner Casey?! Youdon't use your third sub?!?!

Get him outta here.

 

[ill legal operation]

I'll just say this: there are plenty of "Altidores" from coast to coast that would kill to be on the National team, but they always getoverlooked for the "Landon Donovans". Do you have any idea how much bonafied talent, skill, athleticism, and football intelligence we have in thiscountry that will NEVER see a USA jersey?

I don't care who's coaching the squad - it doesn't even matter to me - the US is always represented by the same feeble bodied, unathletic players.Compare the pace of a South Africa to what our "winning 11" is comprised of...that @+$$ is a joke. Really - what the %+@@ is the freshman teamsupposed to do against a damn Brazil?

 

[deepinthajeep]

^ Tell 'em why you mad son...

 

[airjordanseattle23]

get klinnsman or better yet hiddink . ok the later is a dream i guess.

 

[deepinthajeep]

I mean, part of me is saying he's a good coach, cause I know he is.

But when you have a player that's on the pitch (BEAS) that SHOULDN'T have been on the pitch, and he leads directly to a goal.....that's justcoaching.

 

[ill legal operation]

Originally Posted by deepinthajeep

^ Tell 'em why you mad son...

I GOT JOHN BLAZE +#*# AND THEY NOT RES-RECOGNIZIN'!!!!!

But really, the player selection sucks.

 

[socluis90]

Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Originally Posted by socluis90

Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Originally Posted by socluis90

Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Brazil & Italy.

USNT does not belong in the same class as those teams. Never been, and won't be any time soon. If you think otherwise you're delusional.

I don't think a coach should be judged based on performance against teams out of his class.

Seriously? How do you expect to improve as a nation?

You improve by taking small steps up the mountain, not by trying to climb the damn thing in one stride. Did you expect the US team to go from losing to Costa Rica to beating Brazil and Italy? Seriously?

The problem is that this team is sliding down the mountain. Well I hate to say it but I admire what Mexico does when they play big teams, they go toe to toe. Even with their losses their fans are pleased with their team because they played with heart, something the majority of the US is missing. I don't expect to beat Brazil/Italy but I do expect to make them earn their wins.We were a better team with Bruce Arena.

I agree with this. What I'm saying isn't that he shouldn't go, it's that he shouldn't go based on these two games. The first game could have been much different if not for a harsh red card from a dumb tackle. If he should go now, he should've been out after Costa Rica. I don't think he did anything horribly in these two games. Just players making dumb mistakes that you can't make against teams of this quality.

Well now we are getting somewhere. However I still think he is responsible for preparing these players mentally for the game and his tactical decisions intoday's game.

First of all he seems to always have a fixed time for substitutions instead of playing it as the game goes. Most of the time us U.S. fans our calling for a sub15-20 minutes before he actually does one and by that time it is too late.

In the game at Costa Rica he withdrew Torres who was obviously the best player on the field and put ___ in. Questionable call. You can say he took em outbecause of fatigue (he played for Pachuca that Sunday) but then why would you start a player you KNEW you were going to take out? That's one less sub youwill have throughout the game

Now in that same game he played Beasley at LB (god knows why) and Beasley was horribly exposed. What does he do today? Start him when Torres and Adu whereavailable.

And also, the way he is on Kljestan's nuts and continues to put him in regardless of his bad performances. This guy doesn't get consistent minutes withhis club and today, once again, he looked terrible. Add to that that the team consistently continues to make stupid plays to earn reds in big games and Bradleydoes not adress the issue with his own son being the biggest hot head.


All I ask out of the USMNT is 90 minutes of good, hard, honest effort. Haven't seen that under Bradley.

 

[rothypejc]

Originally Posted by PersiaFly

PersiaFly, a lot of US fans have been unhappy with him for a while.

True, I guess I just don't get why people are calling for his head now? It makes it seem reactionary. Did USNT fans really think US would have a chance against Italy and Brazil? If anything, I was really impressed that they took a lead against Italy, something that I would not have thought could happen. And a lot of these goals and red cards are a result of the stupidity of players that take unnecessary challenges or get dispossessed in crucial areas. The general scheme seems fine.


Yeah part of it is frustration but people have called for his head many times in the past (maybe not so much on here but on other boards that I read). Withthis tournament specifically, I would disagree with his reluctance to play guys like Freddy Adu (yes he didn't play much for Monaco but lack of PTdidn't stop Bradley from using Altidore or Beasley) and Torres who did well against Costa Rica. If the US is going to go down to Brazil, at least give Adua chance to get some experience. He proved that he could make plays against a top side vs. Spain last year. The strategy of long ball long ball long ball isalso frustrating to watch. You could say that the US doesn't have the personnel to play a different type of game but some of more technical guys on theteam can't get off the bench. Bottom line is that Bradley is an average MLS coach who won one MLS Cup like 10 yrs ago. The US can do better.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

they play terrible defense and suck at moving the ball. Brazil just toyed with them today. A new coach is long overdue.

 

[rothypejc]

Originally Posted by ILL LEGAL OPERATION

I'll just say this: there are plenty of "Altidores" from coast to coast that would kill to be on the National team, but they always get overlooked for the "Landon Donovans". Do you have any idea how much bonafied talent, skill, athleticism, and football intelligence we have in this country that will NEVER see a USA jersey?

I don't care who's coaching the squad - it doesn't even matter to me - the US is always represented by the same feeble bodied, unathletic players. Compare the pace of a South Africa to what our "winning 11" is comprised of...that @+$$ is a joke. Really - what the %+@@ is the freshman team supposed to do against a damn Brazil?

Talent identification is a problem but the US could use a couple more Landon Donovans. Even the Italian media was rating him the 2nd best player on the fieldin the last game behind Rossi.

 

[otis dont play that]

Fire him. They need an International influence. They need a coach that will be able to match other teams tactically and get the most out of his players. Sincethe untied states doesn't produce the genius soccer minds like Brazil, Italy, and Holland they need to hire a coach from there. I think that a Dutchcoaching style would be best for the USMNT