Does NT Have a Race Problem?

[slaughterx]

it has a certain problem with one specific user whom is blatantly racist and continues to skate on by... not naming any names but I'm sure everyone in this thread knows who.

 

[Present]

see but u cant let that be the end all be all
if me a black dude owns a liquor store
i dont care if u black
white
hispanic
asian
or tongan
u come in my store
with a all black hoody on
im following u

Equality!

 

[darthska]

If you don’t Try to understand why blk folks suffer.. your eyes are deaf. I’m with the aggression **** the bs

What if a person does understand, and tries to understand what they don't already, and still experiences aggression? Are you with that?

Legit question.

 

[SpittaJetLife]

it has a certain problem with one specific user whom is blatantly racist and continues to skate on by... not naming any names but I'm sure everyone in this thread knows who.

Who?

 

[equality]

What if a person does understand, and tries to understand what they don't already, and still experiences aggression? Are you with that?

Legit question.

I'm with white people not telling minorities the following:

* How to feel about race-related issues
* What to be offended by
* Providing me statistics that refute racial discrimination exists because anyone could provide numbers that prove the opposite
* Telling us "we understand" - no you don't. You can't and will never despite how great of a human being you are

The answer is simple. Listen and trust what we're saying when it comes to these issues. The aggression almost always stem from someone telling a POC that such and such isn't true because X and Y logic and acting like they know better. Racial issues isn't a math equation

 

[wayniac211]

What if a person does understand, and tries to understand what they don't already, and still experiences aggression? Are you with that?

Legit question.

That’s too many questions. You either with the business or not

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Not to take the thread backwards but what was bein discussed in the last dance thread that was racial?

In short

- Jordan not stepping up for his people. (Publicly vs. LeBron's stance on social issues
- Few NT dudes defending Jordan by saying he isn't obligated to speak out on issue and how they prefer their athletes "shut up and dribbled."

I'm with white people not telling minorities the following:

* How to feel about race-related issues
* What to be offended by
* Providing me statistics that refute racial discrimination exists because anyone could provide numbers that prove the opposite
* Telling us "we understand" - no you don't. You can't and will never despite how great of a human being you are

The answer is simple. Listen and trust what we're saying when it comes to these issues. The aggression almost always stem from someone telling a POC that such and such isn't true because X and Y logic and acting like they know better. Racial issues isn't a math equation

gentrification Please see the underlined. This is what I was referring to with some of your points.

 

[darthska]

That’s too many questions. You either with the business or not

I can simplify it.

Someone who is with the business experiences aggression.

You with that?

 

[equality]

I can simplify it.

Someone who is with the business experiences aggression.

You with that?

It seems like you're asking questions in very specific ways to hear the answer you want - almost like a gotcha.

I'll do you the favor
If a POC is being an ******* to a very kind, thoughtful, understanding and compassionate white person, then yes he is being an *******.

Happy?

 

[darthska]

I'm with white people not telling minorities the following:

* How to feel about race-related issues
* What to be offended by
* Providing me statistics that refute racial discrimination exists because anyone could provide numbers that prove the opposite
* Telling us "we understand" - no you don't. You can't and will never despite how great of a human being you are

The answer is simple. Listen and trust what we're saying when it comes to these issues. The aggression almost always stem from someone telling a POC that such and such isn't true because X and Y logic and acting like they know better. Racial issues isn't a math equation

I agree with all of that, but that doesn't answer the question I ask that you quoted. You almost answered the question I asked when you said "The aggression almost always stem from someone telling a POC that such and such isn't true because X and Y logic and acting like they know better."

But that assumes that the POC was belittled or undermined in some way.

What if the aggression was initiated by the POC? Like from the jump? What are we calling that? What do we do about that?

And what do we do about people who don't even think that exists or who acknowlege that it does exist but don't think there needs to be any solution for it?

 

[equality]

I agree with all of that, but that doesn't answer the question I ask that you quoted. You almost answered the question I asked when you said "The aggression almost always stem from someone telling a POC that such and such isn't true because X and Y logic and acting like they know better."

But that assumes that the POC was belittled or undermined in some way.

What if the aggression was initiated by the POC? Like from the jump? What are we calling that? What do we do about that?

And what do we do about people who don't even think that exists or who acknowlege that it does exist but don't think there needs to be any solution for it?

If you actually think this is the norm and issue that needs to be fixed first and foremost then maybe you just won't get it. The situation you described happens, but comparison to actual racism that we actually give a **** about it's the exception.

This is like me saying "What do we do about the homeless people who are aggressive and swear at me when I walk past?". The issue is homelessness, not that act of a homeless person acting out.

For real, I'm not trying to offend you nor mad at what you're saying - if that's the question you thought of asking in this thread about race - racial issues aren't for you brethren. It's so far off base and such a irrelevant question in this context it gives insight into how you view these issues

 

[darthska]

It seems like you're asking questions in very specific ways to hear the answer you want - almost like a gotcha.

I'll do you the favor
If a POC is being an ******* to a very kind, thoughtful, understanding and compassionate white person, then yes he is being an *******.

Happy?

C'mon, man. I'm not trying anything other than discussion.

It seems questions outside of your desired conversation, vantage point, or experience frustrate you.

It also seems like what it seems like doesn't matter in an open discussion. So long as questions ate being asked respectfully and opinions are being considered, what's there to be frustrated with?

People get so threatened with questions to things they hadn't considered or don't want to discuss. I've always noticed this. 'Keep the questions and direction within my comfort zone, bucko.'

 

[KHUFU]

I get the concept, but it's less important than a matter more crucial than detailing why she cannot be called 'sexist'.

A more crucial matter lies in the following question posed at the end:

We meet a woman who has a negative predisposition towards men, before meeting them. She own a business and has only ever hired women. Speaks hatefully of men.

Just hates men. I get the concept that she cannot be called sexist. That's fine.

But it doesn't solve what she can be accurately called.

Suggestions?

You call her a Woman.

 

[eracism]

NT has a Chick-fil-A problem

 

[wayniac211]

I can simplify it.

Someone who is with the business experiences aggression.

You with that?

Ever have a shotti to your dome because you fit the description? Ever been Laughed at because you have a registered firearm? You’re daughter ever get called Darkie?

Miss me with all the wording/questions/description.. you’re either with the business or a punk rock ***** for ignoring the agenda.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

 

[darthska]

If you actually think this is the norm

... and your experience as a white person is where you're sure that this isn't the norm? I've not said it or isn't, but I do know that we can't speak on the experiences of groups we're not in.

issue that needs to be fixed first and foremos

Not at all. I never even hinted at that. It's confusing to me why you would ask if I think that's the norm or something that needs to be taken care of first and foremost when I never implied either of those, suggested them, anything. It sounds like those are your assumptions revealing themselves, because I never said anything like that.

This is like me saying "What do we do about the homeless people who are aggressive and swear at me when I walk past?". The issue is homelessness, not that act of a homeless person acting out.

Totally. And I can see the parallel there, for sure. I just disagree that it has to be one and then the other. Yes, one is clearly more important than the other, having literally crippled POC for centuries, and still continuing to do so. The phenomenon I'm talking about has barely even been a thing for a few decades, because obviously, POC weren't getting flippant or aggressive towards white people when there was the very real threat that they would die right then and there for it. And that has been a very real reality in our very recent history.

the question you thought of asking in this thread about race - racial issues aren't for you

How so? Is it a thread on racial issues strictly in regards to POC oppression and all the facets contained within? Or is it a thread on... race and racial issues?

 

[darthska]

Ever have a shotti to your dome because you fit the description? Ever been Laughed at because you have a registered firearm? You’re daughter ever get called Darkie?

Miss me with all the wording/questions/description.. you’re either with the business or a punk rock ***** for ignoring the agenda.

You're ignoring a simple question while getting mad at people for ignoring.

 

[KHUFU]

Who?

Ninjahood. He’s been making disparaging and racist remarks about BLACK people for years on NikeTalk.

 

[darthska]

Miss me with all the wording/questions/description.. you’re either with the business or a punk rock ***** for ignoring the agenda.

Asking questions related to an issue isn't ignoring the issue.

 

[niceshoes247]

I hate everyone equally

Seriously

 

[darthska]

"We meet a woman who has a negative predisposition towards men, before meeting them. She own a business and has only ever hired women. Speaks hatefully of men. Just hates men. I get the concept that she cannot be called sexist. That's fine. But it doesn't solve what she can be accurately called. Suggestions?"

You call her a Woman.

Are you implying that all women hate men? A woman who hates men, just call her a woman because that's how women are?

I'm sure that's not what you're saying. So a white, conservative, Trump supporting woman who thinks she's not racist because her best friend is black, we would call her a racist. Right? I mean clearly, right? Why not just call her a woman?

 

[KHUFU]

Are you implying that all women hate men? A woman who hates men, just call her a woman because that's how women are?

I'm sure that's not what you're saying. So a white, conservative, Trump supporting woman who thinks she's not racist because her best friend is black, we would call her a racist. Right? I mean clearly, right? Why not just call her a woman?

She is simply a woman, one where her politics may differ from other women. To go deeper, intersectionality comes into play here.

 

[SpittaJetLife]

I agree with all of that, but that doesn't answer the question I ask that you quoted. You almost answered the question I asked when you said "The aggression almost always stem from someone telling a POC that such and such isn't true because X and Y logic and acting like they know better."

But that assumes that the POC was belittled or undermined in some way.

What if the aggression was initiated by the POC? Like from the jump? What are we calling that? What do we do about that?

And what do we do about people who don't even think that exists or who acknowlege that it does exist but don't think there needs to be any solution for it?

Is this a systematic issue?

 

[wayniac211]

You're ignoring a simple question while getting mad at people for ignoring.

Man **** yo simple question