Does NT Have a Race Problem?

[darthska]

This thread is about if there is a race problem on NIkeTalk, and there is one.

And you are a number one reason for that

Putting my personal opinions aside, JRepp23 , I have to say that your statement is not only false, but patently false. NT is simply a reflection of America, and people like KHUFU are NOT the #1 reason for a race problem. Contributing to it? That could be someone's opinion. Loud about the already existing problem? Sure. Directly affected by the already existing race problem? No DOUBT.

But the #1 reason for it? Nah. Nope. The fact is this: if Amerikkka never did the things it did to black people, if Amerikkka wasn't still doing the things it's doing to black people, you wouldn't know who the hell KHUFU was. I mean he'd be loud and outspoken, but the identity you have him as (a 'number one reason for' a race problem), you wouldn't know him to be that if there already wasn't a problem, a HUGE problem. Maybe he'd be loud and outspoken about improper workout techniques, or maybe even sexism since we all know he talks about that a lot, too (and more people should, but that's a different topic). But your opinion of his as ' KHUFU , a number 1 reason for a race problem' wouldn't exist if white people hadn't already created the race problem or if it had been solved by now.

 

[KHUFU]

Well, I'd say that a moderator using adjectives describing a posters behavior in light of the topic at hand, can be a bit problematic. It refocuses the issue back upon the poster, and then not the true source of the issue, and in this case it is about the racism on this site. You do not pour gasoline on a fire, then expecting it to go out. I would have never known who Jrepp was, if he did not come on speaking from a position of white privilege in an earlier thread. He is white. Also, since we do know that back channel discussions have been going on about who or what is truly the cause of the race problem on NIkeTalk. Perhaps a moderation style of examining the complaints about unfairness through the vision of the oppressed, may be more of a solution. Example, you don't get to discuss the topic on the greatness of Jordan, without discussing what he wasn't to the people who look like him, simply because you are not comfortable with it. You'll see comments about how great he was, and then how he was a pro simply BECAUSE he didn't speak upon the topic of being Black in america. That frame of thought aligns with that of those who live with privilege, and then is incredibly insulting. I am going to ask if that person is Black. Since this is indeed a message board where discussions are held, that question speaks to authenticity. Many of you chide fake shoes, right? Well, the cost of someone who is not Black making that sort of statement in a public forum filled with impressionable people, is far greater. People run with it, and that is how they weaponize terms against Black people living the Black experience in America.

A respected member on NIketalk says that Jordan didn't have to speak upon the politics of being Black...

Well, I am going to make it as plain as possible, if that respected member isn't living the Black experience in America while being Black?

**#$ what he thinks.

It is because I'll say it exactly like this? Is why these white racists and their sympathizers have a problem with anyone, not just me, but anyone who is as confrontational, then having no fear of such confrontation/debate about such.

Black people do not live simply to make you feel good about yourselves, nor what you have done and what you've allowed to be done.

 

[darthska]

Well, I'd say that a moderator using adjectives describing a posters behavior in light of the topic at hand, can be a bit problematic. It refocuses the issue back upon the poster, and then not the true source of the issue, and in this case it is about the racism on this site.

Fair enough. I've edited.

 

[darthska]

You do not pour gasoline on a fire, then expecting it to go out.

 

[KHUFU]

This post proves that you are a bit disingenuous in your efforts. I know exactly why I posted that as I did.

In the best interests of white people, if you want to save this country? You'd better learn.

However, I have no problem with this country and its system of racism, sexism, burning right down to the ground. I and many others like myself, will refuse to help you put the out the fire, the one that white people set on their own. In fact I will encourage it to burn faster. BTW?

Godfrey up there agrees with me. Our ancestors are in lock step.

 

[SteveSteve72]

Even in your apologies you don't know what to say.

Clearly you haven't listened to ANYTHING KHUFU has said over the last week or you wouldn't have typed that last portion.

Again, you have shown your true colors this week.

You clearly don't know what it means to be racist.

Seriously? Lol ok I understand now. You don’t like me for no reason and that’s fine. I know exactly what to say and I said it. You also have shown your true colors As a hateful individual.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Seriously? Lol ok I understand now. You don’t like me for no reason and that’s fine. I know exactly what to say and I said it. You also have shown your true colors As a hateful individual.

Yea, you aren't open to learning.

Make it about me not liking you instead of me questioning your actions.

Cool. Stay willfully ignorant on the topic.

 

[SteveSteve72]

Yea, you aren't open to learning.

Make it about me not liking you instead of me questioning your actions.

Cool. Stay willfully ignorant on the topic.

You are not able to tell me what I’m open to. How you got that from what I wrote is very confusing. None of my actions need questioning.
The only questioning is your reason for making up stuff out of thin air? What actions??

 

[KHUFU]

Thank you @Methodical Management for settling that matter for Khufu and nawhtyhare.

This just goes to show how they spew out accusations left and right. Zero proof when pressed to bring it, zero decency to admit when wrong.

While those forums are no longer in existence, and the proof of what was happening over there is absent, it does not mean that you are not of ill character. You are simply benefiting from what Richard Nixon tried to do with Watergate. Its cool though. Someone of your character will trip up, as everyone can see that you've repped a racist several times, simply because he has the courage to say out loud, what you are afraid to say yourself.

Well, that trip up didn't take too long.

Now I can leave this thread to Khufu (and his worshipers) where they can swing at the air all they want.

Screw your idea of decency.

 

[darthska]

This post proves that you are a bit disingenuous in your efforts.

To those already looking, yes.

Because there is a litany of posts proving sincerity.

Just not to you.

And that's ok. In neither the forum or this thread (hint [which you will most likely read as 'threat']) does it matter what you personally think of me or what you're convinced of regarding me.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Seriously? Lol ok I understand now. You don’t like me for no reason and that’s fine. I know exactly what to say and I said it. You also have shown your true colors As a hateful individual.

Let us backtrack.

Based on the dozens and dozens of posts KHUFU has made to TURBO UNO , JRepp23 and countless others; WHAT is a racist?

 

[SteveSteve72]

Let us backtrack.

Based on the dozens and dozens of posts KHUFU has made to TURBO UNO , JRepp23 and countless others; WHAT is a racist?

No matter what I say I’ll be wrong. You tell me

 

[TURBO UNO]

While those forums are no longer in existence, and the proof of what was happening over there is absent, it does not mean that you are not of ill character. You are simply benefiting from what Richard Nixon tried to do with Watergate. Its cool though. Someone of your character will trip up, as everyone can see that you've repped a racist several times, simply because he has the courage to say out loud, what you are afraid to say yourself.


Screw your idea of decency.

Zero knowledge and proof about your past/present claims. Oh but now smothering must be wrong with my character. Your swinging like MJ at the plate and missing everything. Carry on though

Edit: Insult to Black people? I’m talking about those dudes who follow your every word as if it’s truth. Poor old Nawghty believed you about stolen money/shoes and boy did you let him down.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

No matter what I say I’ll be wrong. You tell me

I am attempting to have a conversation with you Tony Allen. It is OK to cross half-court and stop worrying about DEFENDING yourself.

Have a conversation.

I will try again.

What does it mean to be racist?

 

[KHUFU]

Zero knowledge and proof about your past/present claims. Oh but now smothering must be wrong with my character. Your swinging like MJ at the plate and missing everything. Carry on though

Hey, a hit dog will holler. You continue hollering about what there was not proof of.

I would not need to defend, what does not need defending. Guilt is making you respond, and that is because you know it is true.

 

[SteveSteve72]

I am attempting to have a conversation with you Tony Allen. It is OK to cross half-court and stop worrying about DEFENDING yourself.

Have a conversation.

I will try again.

What does it mean to be racist?

I’m not sure I truly know. Please tell me I want to learn.

 

[TURBO UNO]

Hey, a hit dog will holler. You continue hollering about what there was not proof of.

I would not need to defend, what does not need defending. Guilt is making you respond, and that is because you know it is true.

 

[KHUFU]

Is that one of your Black friends up there?

You are acting like Trump after the Russian probe/ Collusion hearings. We all know that Trump did something wrong, it is just that there is a mess that does not allow the senate to pull the trigger on his ***.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I will keep this semi-short SteveSteve72 JRepp23

RacISM is a system.
It isn't a PERSONAL feeling.
It isn't (only) discrimination and/or prejudice

As a White person in America, It is impossible to BENEFIT from white privilege and NOT be a racist. (One who benefits from this SYSTEM).

So when KHUFU calls ALL white people racists, and INDIVIDUAL white folks attempt to explain why/how they are "one of the good ones", it is insulting. No, you all benefit from the system of White Supremacy/Racism.

So instead of getting upset/irritated/annoyed that you are being called a racist (one who benefits from this SYSTEM), do something to change the system.

Lastly, to insinuate that a black person that speaks out on racism, no matter how much they speak on it, is THE reason or a BIG reason why racism exists is pure bull. It is also insulting.

If either of you want to have a civil conversation on what was just typed, please respond.

If not, don't respond.

 

[SteveSteve72]

I can accept that. So being called a racist is not a insult? Because it feels like it is. I have no problem admitting that I benefit from white privilege because I’m white. But I don’t want it, I didn’t have a choice in being born white. How can I get rid of it? I raised my children to not be prejudiced of anyone different from themselves. I always check any White people that say raci... prejudice things. I volunteer in underprivileged community’s. What am I supposed to do about it?

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I have no problem admitting that I benefit from white privilege because I’m white. But I don’t want it, I didn’t have a choice in being born white. How can I get rid of it?

My man, all of that sounds good but if you could snap your fingers and become a black man and have to endure what we have to deal with on a day to day basis, you wouldn't switch places.

You can benefit from the system and "feel bad" about it. That is part of the privilege. Enjoy it.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I raised my children to not be prejudiced of anyone different from themselves. I always check any White people that say raci... prejudice things. I volunteer in underprivileged community’s. What am I supposed to do about it?

What can you do?

Like you said, check folks around you to make sure their mindset isn't off. It isn't JUST about what they say, thoughts matter.

Help out when you can but don't treat our people like a charity case, we don't need THAT.

Don't adopt any black kids though. It looks like you are trying too hard.

 

[KHUFU]

I can accept that. So being called a racist is not a insult? Because it feels like it is. I have no problem admitting that I benefit from white privilege because I’m white. But I don’t want it, I didn’t have a choice in being born white. How can I get rid of it? I raised my children to not be prejudiced of anyone different from themselves. I always check any White people that say raci... prejudice things. I volunteer in underprivileged community’s. What am I supposed to do about it?

It should feel like an insult, and at times, factual information is quite insulting. However, it is not a personal attack. That is how it is perceived here by those white racists, and their model minority stewards. They want someone who is called a racist, to take it as a personal attack. This is also how they want to control this site. One of the things that is interesting, is that white people have tried to redefine racism to include all people. Black people no longer have an exclusive term to describe our oppression, as even the courts now call all crimes related to race, gender, Hate Crimes. It places everything under one umbrella, even though no other minority in this country had been determined to be 3/5th's human.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Right, when people like @JReppa claim KHUFU is the biggest Racist on NT, I just laugh.

By the way, that whole convo yesterday was SO silly. "Racially, we have the same power on this message-board." I don't even know what that was about.

 

[SteveSteve72]

Thanks guys you have open my eyes to things I either didn’t understand or was just ignorant about. I just think it’s hard for White peoples like myself that consider themselves not prejudice to be called a racist and not take it personally but if these same people would just sit back and listen to the things you just explained it might help out here on Niketalk and also in the real world.