Dwight Howard is avg 9 shots per gm...who's to blame?

[grittyman20]

a) Stan Van Gundy - for not calling more plays for D12, and demanding his teammates to get him the ball
b) His teammates - for not recognizing the advantage in the paint that he has over 98% of the other centers in the NBA
c) Dwight - for not demanding the ball more
d) none of the above

You "can only choose oooooooooooone......"

 

[the pga tour]

Dwight howard for having no post moves.

 

[tsamshox]

He went off vs Sacramento...but I would bame Vince Carter. Dude is a black-hole on offense...

 

[jdb1523]

First thing I did was check who the OP was...expected OC.

 

[i nasmatic i]

e) choices a through c

 

[grittyman20]

Yeah he's not Olajuwon out there, but he can probably do this several times a game if he liked


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[duba169]

Originally Posted by the PGA tour

Dwight howard for having no post moves.

this. and not demanding the ball.

 

[melovp]

well he's the star player, if he wants the ball, he should let it be known

C, final answer.

 

[grittyman20]

So I looked at their box score for the other night...

ORLANDO MAGIC
STARTERS	MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF		PTS
Rashard Lewis, PF	23	3-9	0-3	0-1	1	1	2	3	0	1	1	4	-17	6
Matt Barnes, SF	37	11-18	3-5	3-5	2	7	9	1	3	1	1	5	-2	28
Dwight Howard, C	31	1-7	0-0	6-8	4	9	13	1	1	3	5	1	-20	8
Jameer Nelson, PG	23	3-7	2-5	0-0	0	2	2	3	0	0	2	1	-7	8
J.J. Redick, SG	34	2-9	2-6	7-7	0	1	1	3	2	0	1	1	-19	13
BENCH	MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF		PTS
Anthony Johnson, PG	6	1-2	1-1	0-0	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	+10	3
Jason Williams, PG	19	3-7	1-4	0-0	0	2	2	4	2	0	5	0	-21	7
Mickael Pietrus, SF	22	5-10	2-6	0-0	0	0	0	3	2	0	1	5	-13	12
Brandon Bass, PF	11	1-2	0-0	0-0	1	0	1	2	0	0	1	0	-2	2
Marcin Gortat, C	16	1-2	0-0	0-0	0	2	2	0	0	0	1	1	+4	2
Ryan Anderson, PF	18	3-5	1-1	1-2	2	1	3	0	2	0	1	3	-3	8
Adonal Foyle, C	DNP COACH'S DECISION
TOTALS		FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF		PTS
	34-78	12-31	17-23	10	26	36	20	12	5	19	21		97

How is it acceptable that JJ Reddick more attempts than D-12? Matt Barnes twice as many?

I'm leaning towards saying that it's the players not getting him the ball. SVG can call as many plays for him as he wants but the players still playthe game...Almost the same scenario for Dwight demanding the ball. He's not a pg so someone has to feed the post.

I haven't watched a Magic game in a while, so maybe a Orl fan can shed more light on this situation...

 

[Spectacular23]

Originally Posted by grittyman20

So I looked at their box score for the other night...

ORLANDO MAGIC
STARTERS	MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF		PTS
Rashard Lewis, PF	23	3-9	0-3	0-1	1	1	2	3	0	1	1	4	-17	6
Matt Barnes, SF	37	11-18	3-5	3-5	2	7	9	1	3	1	1	5	-2	28
Dwight Howard, C	31	1-7	0-0	6-8	4	9	13	1	1	3	5	1	-20	8
Jameer Nelson, PG	23	3-7	2-5	0-0	0	2	2	3	0	0	2	1	-7	8
J.J. Redick, SG	34	2-9	2-6	7-7	0	1	1	3	2	0	1	1	-19	13
BENCH	MIN	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF		PTS
Anthony Johnson, PG	6	1-2	1-1	0-0	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	+10	3
Jason Williams, PG	19	3-7	1-4	0-0	0	2	2	4	2	0	5	0	-21	7
Mickael Pietrus, SF	22	5-10	2-6	0-0	0	0	0	3	2	0	1	5	-13	12
Brandon Bass, PF	11	1-2	0-0	0-0	1	0	1	2	0	0	1	0	-2	2
Marcin Gortat, C	16	1-2	0-0	0-0	0	2	2	0	0	0	1	1	+4	2
Ryan Anderson, PF	18	3-5	1-1	1-2	2	1	3	0	2	0	1	3	-3	8
Adonal Foyle, C	DNP COACH'S DECISION
TOTALS		FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF		PTS
	34-78	12-31	17-23	10	26	36	20	12	5	19	21		97

How is it acceptable that JJ Reddick more attempts than D-12? Matt Barnes twice as many?

I'm leaning towards saying that it's the players not getting him the ball. SVG can call as many plays for him as he wants but the players still play the game...Almost the same scenario for Dwight demanding the ball. He's not a pg so someone has to feed the post.

I haven't watched a Magic game in a while, so maybe a Orl fan can shed more light on this situation...


well to me, the centers aren't really superstars anymore. It's more about the PG or SG or the person who likes to take the spotlight, for instance,lakers = kobe, cavs = lebron, bulls = rose and so on and so forth, i haven't seen a team where the Centers are the center of attention. Yeah dwight mightscore 30 here and there, but its not constent.

 

[futuristic]

His post moves and footwork are atrocious.

 

[grittyman20]

Originally Posted by Spectacular23

well to me, the centers aren't really superstars anymore. It's more about the PG or SG or the person who likes to take the spotlight, for instance, lakers = kobe, cavs = lebron, bulls = rose and so on and so forth, i haven't seen a team where the Centers are the center of attention. Yeah dwight might score 30 here and there, but its not constent.

What does this have to do with my post?

 

[downtown43]

Dwight for not having any skill on the offensive end

 

[18key]

As long as he gets only 9 attempts tonight, I'm good.

 

[crossisom]

Originally Posted by Futuristic

His post moves and footwork are atrocious.

Pretty much. If he's not less than 7 ft from the basket when he gets the ball in the post, 90% chance he's not going to score.

 

[Spectacular23]

Originally Posted by grittyman20

Originally Posted by Spectacular23

well to me, the centers aren't really superstars anymore. It's more about the PG or SG or the person who likes to take the spotlight, for instance, lakers = kobe, cavs = lebron, bulls = rose and so on and so forth, i haven't seen a team where the Centers are the center of attention. Yeah dwight might score 30 here and there, but its not constent.

What does this have to do with my post?

well u posted a chart saying that dwight takes about a couple shots in games, and people like barnes and JJ take more, now im explaining to you isthat a lot of centers don't get the ball to much, they are there for defense not putting up shots and scoring 20+ PPG. Teams revolve around PG, SG, andsometimes SF, the PF and C are there for defense...(does that make sence to you?)

 

[memphisboi55]

 

[osh kosh bosh]

When you don't have real post moves and Andrea Bargnani can lock you up on the block, it helps to have this dude throwing you lobs and creating shots.

 

[tuff g0ng]

Originally Posted by the PGA tour

Dwight howard for having no post moves.

This, and I'm sure his teammates realize that thus making them more reluctant to feed him the ball despite the fact that his physical presencealone gives him an advantage over most C's.

 

[kobefan23]

I blame SVG's offensive scheme. Their entire offense relies on three point shooting. Dwight spends most of the game 20 feet from the basket setting ascreen for Vince or Jameer which leads to a long jumpshot. Currently, Dwight is on pace for around 750 shot attempts this year. He was close to 1000 the pasttwo years.

I think the complaints about his lack of post moves are overstated. Dwight's game is using his athleticism and power to dominate close to the basket (likeShaq did). There's no way he should be getting less than 15 shots a game.

 

[dland24]

This stat is kind of deceiving. Dwight is averaging 10 free throw attempts per game. So assuming he is fouled in the act of shooting and he misses, he isactually taking 5 more shots a game. So he is essentially shooting 14 times a game.

Would a thread called "Dwight Howard is avg 14 shots per gm...who's to blame?" I say no.

 

[2g00d4u]

i mean.. i wouldnt give him the ball either if hes gonna jack up some awkward looking shot or get the ball turned over which is pretty much a majority of thetime. missing free throws too

 

[kobefan23]

Originally Posted by dland24

This stat is kind of deceiving. Dwight is averaging 10 free throw attempts per game. So assuming he is fouled in the act of shooting and he misses, he is actually taking 5 more shots a game. So he is essentially shooting 14 times a game.

Would a thread called "Dwight Howard is avg 14 shots per gm...who's to blame?" I say no.

Not really though. He's averaging the same amount of free throw attempts as the past two seasons. Yet, his shot attempts are down almost 25percent from the previous two years.

 

[big j 33]

Dwight for not developing his post game, and then SVG for structuring his offense around the 3.

It goes both ways, if Dwight could do more then maybe the offense would involve him more, but maybe he doesn't feel the pressure.

I'm a huge Dwight fan but can't help be disappointed with his lack of development.

 

[carlos tevez]

Originally Posted by the PGA tour

Dwight howard for having no post moves.

Damn, the first dude in this post to reply said exactly what I wanted to say.

Dwight has little versatility in the paint. When he's not within a few feet under the basket, dude is absolutely hopeless on offense.