ELECTION DAY 2008:........... Barack Obama, the next President of the United States of America

[tbone95860]

 

[franchise3]

To be honest, I think when both guys are in front of everybody's TV during the debates in the Fall, that's when you'll see a big shift leaningtowards Obama.

The contrast in age will be too big to overlook, kinda like JFK and Nixon, and I think Obama will come off more knowledgeable and presidential.

 

[tbone95860]

Originally Posted by franchise3

To be honest, I think when both guys are in front of everybody's TV during the debates in the Fall, that's when you'll see a big shift leaning towards Obama.

The contrast in age will be too big to overlook, kinda like JFK and Nixon, and I think Obama will come off more knowledgeable and presidential.

Obama better work on his debating skills then. He was nothing special vs Clinton & came off as much weaker then his speeches hegives that everyone knows him for.
Also McCain is a hard nose, Army/POW vet who will be bringing it.
Expect a good battle.

 

[franchise3]

Originally Posted by TBONE95860

Originally Posted by franchise3

To be honest, I think when both guys are in front of everybody's TV during the debates in the Fall, that's when you'll see a big shift leaning towards Obama.

The contrast in age will be too big to overlook, kinda like JFK and Nixon, and I think Obama will come off more knowledgeable and presidential.

Obama better work on his debating skills then. He was nothing special vs Clinton & came off as much weaker then his speeches he gives that everyone knows him for.
Also McCain is a hard nose, Army/POW vet who will be bringing it.
Expect a good battle.

Thing is though, he was going up against in institution in Clinton, the presumptive nominee, and, it's sorta hard to really distinguish himself, when,he and Hillary's ideas were pretty much 95% the same.

Obama will do much better against McCain, then Clinton, that's for sure.

The problem with McCain is, everybody knows he's old, he looks old, and when he speaks, he comes off as old.

That'll be his biggest drawback, IMO.

 

[thagreatj]

first time comin across this thread (i believe) it reminds me of debates/arguments i have at work with co workers and kids.

great thread tho.

 

[tbone95860]

My Plan for Iraq - Senator Barack Obama, New York Times


Caught Between Iraq and a Hard Base - Noemie Emery, Weekly Standard
McCain Running Hillary's Campaign? - John Heilemann, NY Magazine
The Truth About Obama's Faith - Lisa Miller & Richard Wolffe, Newsweek
McCain vs. the Eight-Year Electoral Jinx - Robert Sullivan, Boston Globe
Obama Was Dead Wrong on the Surge - Peter Wehner, Commentary
Obama Has Correct Solution to Neocons' Mistake - Joe Klein, Time
The Surprising Closeness of the Contest - Chris Cillizza, Washington Post

 

[tbone95860]

MICHELLE TO STAY AT HOME...

WORLD TOUR: Media Stars Will Accompany Obama Overseas...

3 Anchors Aboard...

MCCAIN CAMP MOCKS OBAMA EU TOUR; REFERS TOOBAMA AS 'THE ONE'...

Pressure...

FOXNEWS:Jesse Jackson Used N-Word In Off-Air Remarks...

NO PLANS TO AIR TAPE...
Sharpton lashes out...


In Iraq, Affection for Obama... but His Proposal? - Tavernise & Oppel, NYT
Is Barack In a Box on Iraq? - %%*% Morris & Eileen McGann, New York Post
A New Electorate in the Making? - Rhodes Cook, UVA Center for Politics
It Should Be Democrats' Year - But May Not Be - Susan Estrich, FOX News
5 States That Will Pick the President - Stuart Rothenberg, Roll Call
McCain and Bush's Uneasy Alliance - James Carney, Time
Don't Dare Disagree With Obama - Bill Maxwell, St. Petersburg Times
Voters Want Economic Leadership - Karl Rove, Wall Street Journal
What McCain Economic Policy? - Harold Meyerson, Washington Post
What Kind of Leader Will Obama or McCain Be? - Gergen & Zelleke, CSM
Why I Still Kinda Like John McCain - Jonathan Chait, The New Republic
Obama Right to Keep Iran Military Option - Rick Santorum, Philly Inquirer
Two Able Presidential Candidates - David Colburn, Orlando Sentinel
DisillusionedAbout Barack Obama - Nat Hentoff, Sacramento Bee
Judges, Taxes Won't Make McCain's Case - Bruce Bartlett, The Politico

 

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[tbone95860]

Yeah I saw the new jib jab debuted on Leno the othernight, it's pretty funny/good

 

[tbone95860]

THE FOREIGN TOUR...
WIRE: Europe's governments immune to Obama-fever...
White House Slip; Sends Embarrassing Email..
PELOSI tries to broker exit...
MIDDLE EAST MINEFIELD FOR BARACK...
Iraqi PM disputes report on Obama withdrawal plan...

HOW OBAMA SLIPPED OUT OF COUNTRY...

World Trip Could Push Rock-Star Persona to NewHeights...

Obama fans' hopes unrealistic, says aide...


ObamaFears the Blair Effect - Sarah Baxter, Sunday Times
An Obama Impact on Bush's Positions? - Trudy Rubin, Philadelphia Inquirer
Obama Proves Only Symbolism and Speeches - Robert Tracinski, TIA Daily
Open Tryouts to Make Veep - Nagourney & Healy, New York Times
Looking for McCain's Economic Veep - David Broder, Washington Post
How Obama Sees theWorld - Fareed Zakaria, Newsweek
Overseas Trip Carries Big Risks - Michael Goodwin, New York Daily News
Obama's Ego Problem - Joan Vennochi, Boston Globe
McCain Campaign's Economic Stupidity - Frank Rich, New York Times
Obama's Wrong Turn in Afghanistan - John Nichols, The Nation
On Vouchers, Obama Offers No Change - Steve Chapman, Chicago Tribune

 

[tbone95860]

NATIONAL ENQUIRER CORNERS JOHN EDWARDS ATBEVERLY HILTON...
Edwards, Nunn on Obama's VP List...

Obama at Temple of Hercules!

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McCain may be zeroing in on a runningmate...

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Justone reporter waiting for McCain as his plane landed in Manchester, NH, last night...

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McCain accuses media offavorable bias toward Obama...

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Andrea Mitchell blasts Obama for 'fake interviews'...

NBCNEWS defendscoverage...

Why Jesse Jackson Hates Obama - Shelby Steele, Wall Street Journal
Al Gore's Nutty Idea - Vincent Carroll, Rocky Mountain News
Obama's Iraq Mission - E. J. Dionne, Washington Post
Getting Iraq Right - Senator John McCain, New York Post
Is the Media Trying to Elect Obama? - Dee Dee Myers, Vanity Fair
Eventually, We'll All Hate Obama Too - David Aaronovitch, London Times
Meet the High Priest of the McCain Cult - Michael Crowley, New Republic
Swing State Review: Ohio, Part II - Jay Cost, RealClearPolitics
McCain's Iraq Dilemma - Ross Douthat, The Atlantic
Voters Still Hesitant About Obama - Charlie Cook, National Journal
Is the 'Toss-Up' Race an Illusion? - Michael Grunwald, Time
McCain's Mettle - Stuart Koehl, Weekly Standard
Obama Shows Hawkish Side On Mideast Trip - Brian Montopoli, CBS News

 

[tbone95860]

 

[escander45]

Originally Posted by Berkeley Boy

Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

i dont trust the american people...

You and me both.

for real.

 

[tbone95860]

I'm off to Hawaii for a week so this won't have any updates until late next week most likely....


McCain Was Right on Surge, But Story Has Shifted - Tom Friedman, NYT
Behind Maliki's Games - Max Boot, Washington Post
McCain's FailingAttacks - John Dickerson, Slate
The Media Gets a Tingling Up Its Leg - John Kass, Chicago Tribune
Obama: Cocky or Commander in Chiefly? - Maureen Dowd, New York Times
The GQ Statesman - Tony Blankley, Washington Times
Obama Tour Staged For Political Pop - Carrie Brown, The Politico
Baghdad is Berlin 60 Years Later - Ruth Marcus, Washington Post
Winning the War of Ideas - James Glassman, New York Sun
The Democrats & National Security - Samantha Power, NY Review of Books
What Obama Could Learn on Vacation - David Harsanyi, Denver Post
Israel Has No Reason to Fear Obama - Jack Rosen, Jerusalem Post
Is Jindal the One Republicans Are Waiting For? - Kathleen Parker, RCP
Romney: A Mistake for McCain - #%%$ Morris, The Hill

 

[tbone95860]

Candidates' Styles Risk Turning Off Voters - L. Meckler & A. Chozick, WSJ
Obama's Best Strategy? Attack - Jonathan Chait, Los Angeles Times
McCain's True Voice - David Ignatius, Washington Post
Obama's Iraq Fumble - Karl Rove, Wall Street Journal
Will McCain's Negative Ads Backfire? - Thomas Edsall, Huffington Post
Did Obama Accuse McCain of Racist Campaign? - Jake Tapper, ABC News
Obama's Up But It Ain't Over Yet - Steven Stark, Boston Phoenix
McCain's Middle Ground on Energy - Deb Saunders, San Francisco Chronicle
McCain's Oil Drilling Hoax - Joe Conason, New York Observer
McCain Should Pick Romney, And Soon - Jay Cost, RealClearPolitics
Why Obama Should Pick Hillary - Lanny Davis, Wall Street Journal
McCain Should Run Against Stevens - John Avlon, RealClearPolitics
Questioning McCain's Character - Mark Green, New York Daily News
Obama's Ininuations of Racism Are Unseemly - Peter Kirsanow, NRO
'Race Card' Enters 2008 Election - Eilperin and Weisman, Washington Post
What If Iraq Works? - Victor Davis Hanson, RealClearPolitics
Is the Surge a Success? - Andy Zelleke and Robert Dujarric, Boston Globe

 

[tbone95860]

 

[tbone95860]

 

[mr delorean]

it appears that the rockstar tour through europe didnt provide quite the bonce that was expected.

 

[blco02]

^ Nope, sure didn't. The "citizen of the world, not the United States" should be up by about 20 point by now. He's gonna lose.

 

[mr delorean]

its too close to call, but in another "guaranteed win" election year for the democrats they managed to scrounge up yet another weak candidate to runout there. i never will understand it. whatever.

 

[tbone95860]

Protestors heckle Obama...

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Bush Family Calls Limbaugh to celebrateshow's 20th anniversary...

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GALLUP Daily: Tied...

McCain ad irritates many in Hollywood...

AP: Ludacris' song unlikely to alienate voters...

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Hillary Clinton asks not to be nominated at Convention...

Obama Too Fit to Be President?

BattleOver Race Takes Center Stage - J. Martin & B. Smith, Politico
Injecting Race Into the Campaign - David Harsanyi, Denver Post
Barack Lowers His Worth w/Cheap 'Dollar' Shot - Charles Hurt, NY Post
Mac's Attack Strategy Ugly But Not Stupid - Steve Kornacki, NY Observer
Responding to Obama on Preferences - Ward Connerly, National Review
To Win Obama Must Get Off Pedestal - Bonnie Erbe, Seattle PI
Obama & The Jewish Vote - Pierre Atlas, RealClearPolitics
English Lessons for McCain - E. J. Dionne, Houston Chronicle
When Journalists Applaud Obama - John Leo, New York Daily News
Can Obama StayAbove the Fray? - Eleanor Clift, Newsweek
Time to Change, His Campaign That Is - Jennifer Rubin, Commentary
McCain and the Smear Merchants - Joe Conason, Salon
The Obama Uncertainty Principle - Philip Klein, American Spectator

 

[deuce king]

^ Nope, sure didn't. The "citizen of the world, not the United States" should be up by about 20 point by now. He's gonna lose.

Then YOU should have nothing to be worried or concerned about correct??

 

[nostrandave68]

@ dudes being caught up in polls. 1 day Obama is up by 6 nextday only by 2, next day up by 5.. next day its a statistical tie. So you mean to tell me most american's opinions change that quickly about a candidate.These polls shouldn't be taken seriously.

 

[tbone95860]

Originally Posted by NostrandAve68

@ dudes being caught up in polls. 1 day Obama is up by 6 next day only by 2, next day up by 5.. next day its a statistical tie. So you mean to tell me most american's opinions change that quickly about a candidate. These polls shouldn't be taken seriously.

Actually they do... 5% isn't a very large amount..... 5 to 10 people out of every 100 easily could change their mind at any time rightnow.... and certain events in the news affect who they like at any given point

 

[outacontrol music]

Every president has been a Mason...


Im leaning towards Obama, but isn't McCain a Mason?

@ that handshake....

http://www.youtube.com/v/G9979CZ9vII&fs=1


I feel a scandal filled election on our hands.