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For a lot of you revisionists on this board go listen how much of an afterthought Jay-Z was compared to the talent pool out at those times.
Funk Flex airing out Rocafella, Jay, and Dame on Hot97!
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I got the radio on . I'm trying to figure what happened
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Again ? thought this was a thread bump
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Airing out or just talking? 
Flex doing his usual click bait gimmick.
Flex doing his usual click bait gimmick.
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Define "those times" though, because I doubt you'd have anyone who actually listened to Jay in mid 90s who said he was GOAT at that time. However, if anyone believes Jay was an afterthought in late 90s-2000's then they're not correct.
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Everybody know Jay wasn’t big, out the gate. He dropped his first album at 27. Here aint really get big BIG until 1999/2000. After volume 2. He was 32 years old when he really started garnering acclaim.
It’s known. But, that doesn’t account for his WORK ethic. That man worked on his craft, got better, and “built” himself. It ain’t how you starts. It’s the finished product that gets attention
It’s known. But, that doesn’t account for his WORK ethic. That man worked on his craft, got better, and “built” himself. It ain’t how you starts. It’s the finished product that gets attention
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The fast rap flow he was doing from Jaz to Mic Geronimo/Big L didn't stand out.
and I don't need to listen to what Flex said, I was there.
Reasonable Doubt did
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It really seemed like Flex was poppin off at Dame for his "culture vulture" comments about Lyor Cohen, Jay just fit into that. I see where Flex is coming from, and Dame has been crazy annoying, but I don't know if I agree with his sentiment that Jay wouldn't be Jay without Lyor/Def Jam. Then again, I wasn't in NY with that inside knowledge so I'm clearly speaking in hindsight.
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He benefited from Def Jam, but Def Jam also benefited from him.
Just like with DMX and Ja, it was mutual. They helped build another Yankee dynasty for Def Jam in the late 90's, for being associated with Rocafella and Murder Inc. At the end of the day the artist needs the talent and songs to advance their careers. A label can push an artist, but he's going to need to produce. Look at Joe Budden on Def Jam. It takes more than the machine. Numerous artist didn't pop off despite being on major labels.
Look at Rihanna versus Teairri Marie
Jimmy Cozier versus Alicia Keys
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Damn.
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FACTS
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even if everything flex said was true which it doesnt seem to be from peoples reactions, but even if so...none of that disqualifies lyor from ever being able to display culture vulture behaviors
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I can't call it, i'm leaving it be and listening to both sides. Hard for me to characterize somebody that's been a part of hip hop and help pushed it forward from day one, AND doing the same **** that a lot of others that look like us do.
Also
Also
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posting to watch that later ^^
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****** still listen to HOT 97 in NY?!
Really?!
Why? Y’all can just listen to whatever the **** y’all want now. Who wants to hear these clowns and their opinions?
Really?!
Why? Y’all can just listen to whatever the **** y’all want now. Who wants to hear these clowns and their opinions?
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I'm with magic33. I was there too. **** flex.
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watch flex really get something on YouTube music.
Sidenote if YouTube Music launched in the drake/currensy/wiz/cudi/dom era and worked out the kinks by the arrival of streaming labels would already be dead.
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The no beard pics is mad disrespectful
I'm confused why people care what other people listen too.
I'm confused why people care what other people listen too.
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