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it's absolutely a valid reason, considering we had cut it to 4 at that point.

even an NC paper made it a story....



Th Fayetteville Observer

Phantom technical helps Duke top Georgetown

By Dan Wiederer
Staff writer
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Georgetown's Greg Monroe, left, puts up a shot against Duke's Gerald Henderson, right, and David McClure in Saturday's game.
DURHAM - There's just no way around it. Basketball official John Cahill owes Georgetown an apology. He owes Greg Monroe an apology.

In the second half of a Saturday afternoon street-fight at Cameron Indoor Stadium between two of the nation's elite teams, it was Cahill'sirritability that somehow provided the biggest momentum shift.

Players are supposed to change games. Coaches, too. But not referees.

And so as Monroe left Cameron still shaking his head over a 76-67 loss and still confused by the most ridiculous technical foul he'd ever received, youhoped Cahill was somewhere nearby hammering out a heartfelt "I'm sorry."

Here's how it all went down: No. 13 Georgetown was in the middle of a second-half run, cutting a 44-29 Duke lead to four points.

The Hoyas were playing with fire, executing with poise. But then with 15:08 to play, freshman Henry Sims was called for a foul while going for an offensiverebound.

Georgetown coach John Thompson III took exception with the whistle and let Cahill know it. Cahill let Thompson know he wasn't in the mood.

And then, just seconds later, as Duke's Nolan Smith was bringing the ball up the floor, Cahill inexplicably blew his whistle, pointed at Monroe on thebench and called a technical foul.

Monroe looked confused at first, then stood up with eyes the size of hubcaps.

"I didn't say anything," he protested, pointing to the flock of Georgetown fans directly behind him. "I didn't say anything. Ididn't say anything."

Cahill didn't seem to care. He heard something from the vicinity of the Georgetown bench and it was enough for him to give Monroe the "T."

Never mind that the veteran official wasn't even looking at the Hoyas bench at the time. Never mind that Monroe appeared to be sitting quietly, hismouth sealed shut.

The mysterious technical had just given Monroe his fourth foul of the game. And he was forced to sit there for the next 3 minutes frozen with a disbelievingstare.

"I don't even believe (Cahill) was really looking at the bench," Monroe said later. "But I know I didn't say anything. I can'tsay if I heard someone else. But I know I definitely didn't say anything."

So what happened next? Duke's Jon Scheyer made the two technical free throws to start a 15-3 Duke run. Eleven of those points came with Monroe on thebench.

It may not have been the knockout blow, but it certainly flustered the Hoyas while simultaneously allowing the Devils to gather themselves.

"That kind of stopped the game for a while," Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski said. "And maybe we righted the ship."

The Blue Devils won Saturday because they held the lead for the final 24 minutes. They won because Gerald Henderson made his first seven shots and scored 17of his 23 points in the first half. They won because Kyle Singler continued to a relentless rebounder, grabbing 16 of Duke's 32 boards.
But the gamecertainly could have been different had Georgetown had the services of their dynamic freshman big man for just a few more minutes.

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Maybe it's a current state of Hoya Paronia on my part, but this happens to a Duke or UNC, Kentucky, UCLA star player...there would be hell to pay.
 
Jason Clark is the future.

I think he starts over Wright either sometime later in the season or definitely next year.
 
dre, I think you just have caught Chris on some bad nights...he's been solid for the most part.

12, 3 and 4. 50%, 35%. And he's made teams not be able to press us like in the past years.

Clark is gona be great, not a point tho, III likes two ball handlers so he'll be the starting 2 next year.

It's realistic now though, that he could start over Sapp at somepoint this year.

Sapp has been horrendous alllllllll year. Too bad he's goin out like this.
 
what are the chances sapp gets it together? it'd be nice to have him playing close to what he did last season, especially for the BET and tourney
 
I think it's still possible...Jon struggled big time around this time last year and got it back together.

One thing tho..I think both Sapp and Wright like being the primary ball handlers...obviously doesn't happen when they are both out there. Maybe III findsmore time for Sapp to run the 1.
 
Jason couldn't f*ck with Chris...ever. Chris is just trying to figure how to run a team and get his at the same time...something he hasn't had to dobefore.
 
Originally Posted by allen3xis

dre, I think you just have caught Chris on some bad nights...he's been solid for the most part.

12, 3 and 4. 50%, 35%. And he's made teams not be able to press us like in the past years.
Well, maybe I need to stop watching G-Town games then, B/C evey game I've seen him play this year has not been good.

Clark is gona be great, not a point tho, III likes two ball handlers so he'll be the starting 2 next year.

It's realistic now though, that he could start over Sapp at somepoint this year.

Sapp has been horrendous alllllllll year. Too bad he's goin out like this.
Yeah, but y'all don't need a traditional point in y'all system, right?

Who y'all got coming in at the 1/2 next year?

Jason couldn't f*ck with Chris...ever. Chris is just trying to figure how to run a team and get his at the same time...something he hasn't had to do before.
I understand that, but as an outsider looking in, with know intimate knowledge of how they played eachother in the Past or in practices, etc,You'd think that JC was the stud.

But again, maybe I need to see more games.
 
Really, this system doesn't need a true one..Wallace really was a spot shooter but he got guys in the right spots and led..Sapp wasn't/isn't.Everyone's gota be skilled tho.

Need a floorleader more than anything at that spot...not necessarily a distributor.

as inmymind said, I think chris is still learning and he'll get it.

Hollis Thomspon can play the 2/3

but it'll be Wright/Clark handling the ball next year.

Hollis is it right now..maybe we find a combo guard in spring, but doubtful.
 
actually have some people over now that know Sapp personally and they blame Wright for all his problems and say we're goin nowhere with him atpoint
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Tonight's very important with 3 on the road to follow.

Best thing for this team right now is practice and we got almost a full week.

Limit 2nd chances, DaJuan and Greg avoid foul trouble and take care of the ball. Basics.

The numbers are irrefutable; in nine games this season against major-conference competition, Monroe has a plus-minus rating of plus-80. That means the Hoyas outscored those nine opponents by 80 points when Monroe (13.2 points, 6.3 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 1.8 steals) was in the agame. Senior guard Jessie Sapp boasts the second-highest plus-minus rating on the team in those games at plus-24.

In Georgetown's four losses this season, the Hoyas are plus-2 with Monroe on the floor and minus-45 with the versatile big man on the bench. In the loss at Duke, the Hoyas were 15 points better than the Blue Devils in Monroe's 28 minutes of playing time but were outscored by 24 points in the 12 minutes Monroe spent on the bench.

All hope for Jessie is not lost.
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I'll be watching tonight's game during commercials of the Gophers game..the last time I watched G'Town play was the beginning of this month againstPitt when Monroe didn't have a very good game..so I expect him to come up big tonight. WVU is a pretty good team but I expect Georgetown to win this one...

What's going on w/ Jon Wallace by the way? Is he playing overseas?
 
Originally Posted by TypeRPinoY

Jon wallace is in law school
Yeah I actually knew his major was Law but I thought he was talented enough where he could go overseas and play ball and if that didn't workout or when that was over he could continue his career in Law

Dude was my favorite player on last years team
 
He did go overseas..

but guess that didn't work out?


Someone posted that Chris and Jessie got into in the first half of Duke game...guess that could explain why Chris and Jessie rode the pine 2nd half...

and since it's WVU....the Esherick Rant game of 03...

guess who reffed it?
 
maybe he deferred his acceptance to GU law for a bit, but he is not on the current roster

"In 2008, Wallace signed a contract with the Slovenian League club Union Olimpija of the Euroleague through the end of the 2008/2009 season."
 
Crap. That's what Thursday night was.

That effort can not be stood for.

Same as Pitt, we got our **+ kicked up and down the court and then gave up.

Have to win tomorrow, absolutely have to.
 
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"I think the last two or three minutes was unacceptable," Thompson said yesterday when asked about his players' effort. "Prior to that,frustration at one end [offense] led to confusion at the other [defense]."

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"West Virginia got a lot of uncontested shots, so our attention to detail at the defensive end has to get significantly better," he said. "Andat the offensive end, we have to do a better job of reading the defenses and executing our offense."

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[font=Arial,Helvetica]Regarding his players' effort on defense, hebristled at a suggestion that some Hoyas weren't carrying their share of the load.

"I think we need more of a defensive presence from [players] one through 13," Thompson said. "There's no need to single out any guys."

As for the calls for a more physical player to be added to the roster, Thompson noted that the middle of a season is "a hard time" to debate acollege team's composition.

"We have to figure out how this group is going to have success," Thompson said.

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[font=Arial,Helvetica]"We had a core group that provided leadership for four years,"Thompson said. "We've got guys in new roles. And yes, there has been an adjustment period and some searching in terms of leadership. It's time foreveryone to step up."


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those three pointers we took at the end were pathetic. the first two were unnecessary and unacceptable.

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Originally Posted by Kis Open Doors

MOST OVERRATED TEAM IN THE BE.







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overrated from what?

playing the #1 schedule?

having 8 freshmen and sophomores?

look at post 1 to see the expectations...
 
ill watch the game in the morning and give some thoughts..

but i got a pretty good feel of what went on
 
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