Here's why the Nuggets didn't trade Kleiza for Artest

Originally Posted by chikickz

Is he having a good time? A damn good time.
Is he going to "make it rain" again? Bet on it.

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Originally Posted by Mw2889

I don't even understand why everyone is acting like the Nuggets are horrible. It's the Western conference. Once again


ITS THE *+#%!*#@+*$%% WESTERN CONFERENCE.

If a couple games had gone just a little differently, they'd be one of the top teams in the West. They are probably a couple missed shots from the #4 seed.

Exactly. They are probably not a championship team but they should see what happens the rest of the way this year.
 
Originally Posted by chikickz

The trend is heavily towards the "no chance in hell" answer, but I hope JR Smith stays out of trouble off the court. I don't think he will. He's far too immature for the NBA. He would be the classic case of the thinking money can buy your way out of trouble. The Knicks teach you that you can't buy wins and you can never buy defense.

Is JR talented? Of course.
Is he foolish? Incredibly.
Is he growing? Far from it.
Is he having a good time? A damn good time.
Is he going to "make it rain" again? Bet on it.

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Could y'all imagine though?

Melo, Artest, A.I., Kenyon, Najera (
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Originally Posted by franchise3

The real reason is because ownership has known the Kleiza since he was like 16.

They even traded for him.

His game has developed nicely, and, he's a bargain for what they're paying him.

He went to college with the owner's son...definitely not since 16.
 
the Nuggets wouldn't even be in the playoffs right now if the season ended today
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, and you're talking about Dynasty? Dynasty? Are you kidding me?Dynasty?
 
I dont understand how you can say its not Karls fault.... On paper the Nuggets arguably have the most talented roster in the Nba....but we aren't playinglike the most talented team at all...and when a team doesn't play to its potential a lot of times its the coaches fault....

I'm frustrated with the Nuggets but they are only two games back of Utah and if they catch utah they are a 4th seed...so i'm not guna start to panicyet...
 
Originally Posted by kash55

What position would Artest play?
Either 2 or 3 but it wouldn't really matter which one since in most offenses the 2 & 3 r basically the same...(as far as running an offense)
 
And all this time, the Kings had him playing the 4 down the stretch. Gee, who would of thought.
 
"Dynasty."


dude nuggets aren't even making the playoffs. other than Camby blocking a few shots they play no D.
 
Damn, Niketalk is mad dumb...
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I dont understand how you can say its not Karls fault.... On paper the Nuggets arguably have the most talented roster in the Nba....but we aren't playing like the most talented team at all...and when a team doesn't play to its potential a lot of times its the coaches fault....
End of thread...
 
Nene the most explosive big man in the L? Did you watch all-star weekend? I'll admit I saw a few good things that I liked....but that was YEARS ago.Dude's washed up, that testicular cancer didn't help either.
 
I know I am going to get some heat for saying this, but I think Iverson and Melo is a failed experiment. They both need the ball in their hands at all time andlets be real, Iverson has never been an easy player to play with. Iverson would have won championships if he had a quality big man on offense he has not hadthat. I think it is time to move Iverson and bring in some younger talent.
 
just because a fellow nugget fan agreed with you means its' the end of the thread?
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the most talented roster in the NBA would either go to LA, Houston or Detroit.


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lol moneybaggz you a fool haha. Your not worth the time to explain why you are so wrong in so many ways, so i'll just agree with you. Denver is a potentialdynasty!!!! haha
 
I dont understand how you can say its not Karls fault.... On paper the Nuggets arguably have the most talented roster in the Nba....but we aren't playing like the most talented team at all...and when a team doesn't play to its potential a lot of times its the coaches fault....


The coach is easy to pick on, but it doesn't matter how much talent you have on paper, talent doesn't guarantee you anything.

A good team consists of players knowing their role and not complaining, cohesiveness on and off the court, good team defense (trust), and a leader everyonelooks up to.

When I think of the Nuggets, those things don't necessarily come to mind. They may get along and have great talent, but I don't see a consistent teamdefensive effort (especially by the back court).

I don't care what coach you throw on that team, you have a roster of players who are not known for their defense, and will never emphasize that aspect oftheir game on the court. They will probably get past the first round (after many 1st round lossess), but thats pretty much as far as they will go IMO.
 
Originally Posted by worldbeefreeg

I know I am going to get some heat for saying this, but I think Iverson and Melo is a failed experiment. They both need the ball in their hands at all time and lets be real, Iverson has never been an easy player to play with. Iverson would have won championships if he had a quality big man on offense he has not had that. I think it is time to move Iverson and bring in some younger talent.

Denver's offense is their not their problem...what are you talking about....the problem is the nuggets defense... They are both 3 & 4 in scoringand the team is top 5 in scoring.....

If you wanna say its not working becuz they both play no d that makes a little sense...say its not working becuz of how they play on offense..makes nosense...
 
Jmoneybagzz, I revoke your Nuggets fan privledges. You're giving us all a bad name, just stop. Karl does need to go, but don't act like with someonebetter this would be a "dynasty" in any way shape or form.

But
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nope, you need a pg shoot distributes not chucking up inefficient shots.
 
I seriously just laugh at how dumb NT is, I mean its amazing how dumb NT's population is......Then I remember this is all for profit...
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Originally Posted by Mez 0ne

I dont understand how you can say its not Karls fault.... On paper the Nuggets arguably have the most talented roster in the Nba....but we aren't playing like the most talented team at all...and when a team doesn't play to its potential a lot of times its the coaches fault....


The coach is easy to pick on, but it doesn't matter how much talent you have on paper, talent doesn't guarantee you anything.

A good team consists of players knowing their role and not complaining, cohesiveness on and off the court, good team defense (trust), and a leader everyone looks up to.

When I think of the Nuggets, those things don't necessarily come to mind. They may get along and have great talent, but I don't see a consistent team defensive effort (especially by the back court).

I don't care what coach you throw on that team, you have a roster of players who are not known for their defense, and will never emphasize that aspect of their game on the court. They will probably get past the first round (after many 1st round lossess), but thats pretty much as far as they will go IMO.
I agree somewhat but a coach can have a big impact on a teams defense...A perfect example is look at the Mavs before Avery Johnson...and look at themafter...their defense improved greatly once Avery got there...

And some of you are making comments on the nuggets when you don't really even pay much attention to them...There are other things that jump out at me thatshows Karl doesn't preach defense like he should....Our best perimeter defender is Diawara but he NEVER plays...why??...i'm sure its becuz he's notmuch of an offensive threat....but imo his 3 point shot has been alot better this year and he's knocked down the open 3 for the most part...but who caresif he doesn't score at all...at least he could be in there to try and lock down the other teams best perimeter player...and i'll promise you he'llplay hard on d and contest every shot unlike melo and ai...

Another example was that our 2nd best perimeter besides maybe Kenyon was Bobby Jones...but for some reason he was waived which made no sense to me...Iwould've rather seen Wafer waved than Jones...Another defensive minded player that couldve helped the nuggets..and theres more..but I've already typedtoo much....
 
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