Hey NT, can we talk about GENIUSES? Vol: Theory of Multiple Intelligences

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so we were talking about intelligence in my psych class today...and I was wondering, if there are mathematicians who are geniuses, what is stopping say....a great diesel mechanic from being a genius? Like somebody who can look at a bunch of engine parts, and has a deeper understanding than the average man. Or a great pianist, or a great hair dresser. Intelligence in our society is so culturally biased (not racially, thats not what I'm getting at). But there are so many things that I would consider genius that most schools would never test for because its so non traditional.

I didnt feel like typing it all in my words, but below are the different categories that Howard Gardner felt qualified as different forms of intelligence.




Logical-mathematical
This area has to do with logic, abstractions, reasoning and numbers and critical thinking. This also has to do with having the capacity to understand the underlying principles of some kind of causal system.Logical reasoning is closely linked to fluid intelligence and to general intelligence (g factor).

Spatial
This area deals with spatial judgment and the ability to visualize with the mind's eye. Spatial ability is one of the three factors beneath g in the hierarchical model of intelligence.

Linguistic
People with high verbal-linguistic intelligence display a facility with words and languages. They are typically good at reading, writing, telling stories and memorizing words along with dates. Verbal ability is one of the most g-loaded abilities.[6] This type of intelligence is associated with the Verbal IQ in WAIS-III.

Bodily-kinesthetic
The core elements of the bodily-kinesthetic intelligence are control of one's bodily motions and the capacity to handle objects skillfully. Gardner elaborates to say that this also includes a sense of timing, a clear sense of the goal of a physical action, along with the ability to train responses.
People who have bodily-kinesthetic intelligence should learn better by involving muscular movement (e.g. getting up and moving around into the learning experience), and be generally good at physical activities such as sports, dance, acting, and making things.
Gardner believes that careers that suit those with this intelligence include: athletes, pilots, dancers, musicians, actors, surgeons, builders, police officers, and soldiers. Although these careers can be duplicated through virtual simulation, they will not produce the actual physical learning that is needed in this intelligence

Musical
This area has to do with sensitivity to sounds, rhythms, tones, and music. People with a high musical intelligence normally have good pitch and may even have absolute pitch, and are able to sing, play musical instruments, and compose music. Since there is a strong auditory component to this intelligence, those who are strongest in it may learn best via lecture. They will sometimes use songs or rhythms to learn. They have sensitivity to rhythm, pitch, meter, tone, melody or timbre

Interpersonal
This area has to do with interaction with others. In theory, individuals who have high interpersonal intelligence are characterized by their sensitivity to others' moods, feelings, temperaments and motivations, and their ability to cooperate in order to work as part of a group. According to Gardner in How Are Kids Smart: Multiple Intelligences in the Classroom, "Inter- and Intra- personal intelligence is often misunderstood with being extroverted or liking other people..."[8] Those with this intelligence communicate effectively and empathize easily with others, and may be either leaders or followers. They typically learn best by working with others and often enjoy discussion and debate.
Gardner believes that careers that suit those with this intelligence include sales, politicians, managers, teachers, counselors and social workers.

Intrapersonal
This area has to do with introspective and self-reflective capacities. This refers to having a deep understanding of the self; what your strengths/ weaknesses are, what makes you unique, being able to predict your own reactions/emotions.

Naturalistic
This area has to do with nurturing and relating information to one’s natural surroundings. Examples include classifying natural forms such as animal and plant species and rocks and mountain types. This ability was clearly of value in our evolutionary past as hunters, gatherers, and farmers; it continues to be central in such roles as botanist or chef.

Existential
Some proponents of multiple intelligence theory proposed spiritual or religious intelligence as a possible additional type. Gardner did not want to commit to a spiritual intelligence, but suggested that an "existential" intelligence may be a useful construct.[10] The hypothesis of an existential intelligence has been further explored by educational researchers.
 
if musicians can be genius, Dr. Dre is the Steven Hawking of hip-hop Production. 
 
I classify a genius as anyone who can capture and interpret information quickly with little help. As humans we all capture the information one 24th of a second after we see it. But, it takes time and reinforcement to be able to use that knowledge. A genius however, could interpret that information when received.

That's my take on a genius.
 
i feel like that word is usually reserved for people who are good at math, because it's what we use to understand what this world is made of. It is in everything, so if you can understand it

by logic, you are closer to understanding this world better than the rest of us.
 
i feel like that word is usually reserved for people who are good at math, because it's what we use to understand what this world is made of. It is in everything, so if you can understand it
by logic, you are closer to understanding this world better than the rest of us.
Pretty sure none of us are in any way close to understanding the world.

The world isn't "made of" math, math is just a specific human interpretation of the world. But I get what you're trying to say
 
"understanding" is such a capsulated concept

free your mind 
 
have always thought of it categorized that way minus a few of them. I've used the mechanic analogy myself.


"understanding" is such a capsulated concept

free your mind 

but also this.

made of math :lol
 
A genius is IMO , one who performs exceptionally well in whatever field they are working/studying in with EASE. A genius does what he does extremely well, without really trying too hard.  It's second-nature for a genius to perform better than all his alumnis/colleagues.

If and when a genius breaks a sweat or has to challenge himself beyond the norm , you'll know something revolutionary will happen. I.E Thomas Edison, The Wright Brothers, Leonardo Davinci, William Shakespeare.

But Edison stole the idea of the loghtblub, and Shakespeare has been accused of plagiarizing most of his works.
 
A genius is IMO , one who performs exceptionally well in whatever field they are working/studying in with EASE. A genius does what he does extremely well, without really trying too hard.  It's second-nature for a genius to perform better than all his alumnis/colleagues.

If and when a genius breaks a sweat or has to challenge himself beyond the norm , you'll know something revolutionary will happen. I.E Thomas Edison, The Wright Brothers, Leonardo Davinci, William Shakespeare.


I would love to have been born a genius in my field of studies. I would save alot of people, ALOT of money by designing beams , foundations, structural frames  which require 1/2 the amount of material one would use. Or develop a different type of metal alloy which would trump the uses of steel.

Who knows.8o

Your entire post is void because you mentioned Thomas Edison in the same breath as those other three.
 
But Edison stole the idea of the loghtblub, and Shakespeare has been accused of plagiarizing most of his works.

Well in that case, they are geniuses because they have convinced the majority of the population that they are solely responsible for all these well known accomplishments.

Adolf Hitler can be considered a genius, due to the fact that he was able to convince an entire nation that his beliefs were legitimate and beyond reasonable. The most dangerous type of genius. He could probably convince you to off yourself in hopes of bettering your community, and ultimately, the World.

Genius.

Hitler was able to convince Germany most of his political beliefs with his nazi political party. He convinced Germany that he could get them out of debt, and unify the country. His holocaust ideals didn't come into play until he was given high power in the government.

He was actually losing influence before he was given power, if the government never gave him chancellorship he would have just faded away.
 
Hitler was able to convince Germany most of his political beliefs with his nazi political party. He convinced Germany that he could get them out of debt, and unify the country. His holocaust ideals didn't come into play until he was given high power in the government.


He was actually losing influence before he was given power, if the government never gave him chancellorship he would have just faded away.
I doubt somebody who was "losing influence " can be given so much power. That's a perfect example of an oxymoron.

Not exactly.

He was losing his influence over the German people, but he received power from the president of Germany, Paul Von Hindenburg. The people just didn't care about what he had to say at one point, but his national socialist German workers party was made of political figures so no matter what he never lost influence in politics. Hindenburg gave him power at the right time(well, wrong time) seeing that if he didn't hitler wouldn't have been anything but a crazy artist.
 
I always thought of MJ and Tom Brady as "geniuses" in their particular fields.
 
The interpersonal category leaves room to call some con-men geniuses.

Overall I agree, there are much more areas of expertise that aren't really seen as a skill by many that can qualify to call a person who excels easily at it a genius. However, I wouldn't want the term to be diluted or confused with ppl who happen to be specialists at something through only arduous training and not it naturally/intuitively coming to them.
 
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Excellent Rodney Mullen doc. I concur with everything he expressed. Legendary and a pioneer in the art of skateboarding.

Interesting and revealing article on intelligence. Reading these intelligence theories has made me realize why people say certain things about me. The first five categories listed are in line with my strongest characteristics.

I've had moments when I've thought of myself as an untapped genius, but I'd always feel there was too much information to consume for me to actually feel like a true genius.
 
The interpersonal category leaves room to call some con-men

....However, I wouldn't want the term to be diluted or confused with ppl who happen to be specialists at something through only arduous training and not it naturally/intuitively coming to them.

I couldn't agree more!
 
I knew before entering this thread.. that somebody was going to post Rodney Mullen video..
 
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Pretty sure none of us are in any way close to understanding the world.

The world isn't "made of" math, math is just a specific human interpretation of the world. But I get what you're trying to say
There's a thin line between genius and insanity.
once you understand the world you will definitely become insane. if i had one wish it would be for the world to have never existed.
 
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