Honest discussion of the College Experience & Life Vol. Higher Learning

Originally Posted by antoekneeo


After I graduated in June 06 I went back home to SF and I worked for 2 years for the school district, specifically at the elementary level with students of color who had learning disabilities and behavior problems. I have always had a passion for working with kids and kids respond well to me, so I started thinking that being a school based social worker/counselor would be the best fit for me. Once I decided that this is what I wanted to do, I began applying to grad school. I am now finishing up my first year of graduate school with one year left to go, until I have my Masters in Social Work with an emphasis in school counseling. I am resigned to the fact that I will never be wealthy given my chosen profession, but I would rather be happy and making 50k/yr vs miserable and making 100k/yr.

Thats a great look. Best of luck with your future and career. The world needs more people like you.

I would really like to take the profit from my business to open a charter school in my later years.
 
Just some advice, take it however you want to take it. My major right now is in BCom with a specialization in Entrepreneurship, because I know at the end ofthe day. owning my own business and becoming a social entrepreneur is what I REALLY want to do. However, I love Finance as well (see the irony) and I havealways been extremely upset that my university did not offer that as a major. This has led me to do a lot of searching to see how I can supplement myEntrepreneurship degree with Finance knowledge without giving up the opportunity cost of additional time. The solution: start on my CFA designation. It is aprofessional designation that employers feel easily eclipses a BA in Finance and is on par with an MBA in Finance not from a top 10 school, at a fraction ofthe price. Looking through the course of study, https://www.cfainstitute....ourseofstudy/topic.html, the amount of material is comparableto at least 6 finance courses.

The moral of the story is don't let your current situation dictate your future outcomes. There are always different paths you can take to get to the samegoal, but they usually involve a trade off between money and time. A lot of people, including myself, get held back by past experiences, which are sunk costs,and are hesitant to pursue opportunities in the present that are beneficial. This is foolish.

Keep this thread going!
 
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

I'm about a year away from finishing an accelerated Masters program and i've been reflecting on my life, my future and the role that the college experience has played in all of it. I'm wondering if all the sacrifices made have been worth it, what have I really learned and what path are these degrees putting me on....

How do you guys feel about the college experience?

Is it working out for you?

Is it setting you on the path that you really desire to go...or the path that you feel that you need to travel?

For those who have graduated and are currently employed (or unemployed) ...was it time well spent are you satisfied?

Lets get some honest discussion about the pro/cons of the college experience....

- Mine was an all around excellent experience. from playing collegiate sports to extra curicular activities to the class room
- Working out for me, yes. I used college. I didnt just come away with just a degree I came away few very goodconnections. I would say that College was the best yrs of myt life, but these 1st couple yrs out of college have surpassed them. and Im talkin I LIVED the life at school. Things have only gotten better.
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- I find with everyday that passes at my job, I didnt need nearly half of the courses I took. I kinda feel like half of your collegiate experience isunnecessary. Thank God, I was on scholarship, becaue Maybe I wouldnt feel the same, I got some partners who are struggling cus of student Loans.
One thing I do know, I will Not even attempt to get my MBA unless my company pays for it
 
How do you guys feel about the college experience?

I'm loving it so far. I feel like I've matured so much and, and become a much more well rounded person. I feel like I could be getting so much more outof it, but compared to what I have put in, I've gotten a lot out of it so far.

Is it working out for you?

Yea, it is. I'm having a good time, I'm maturing, I'm learning quite a bit, I'm close to figuring out what I hope to do with my life, I'mmeeting people and making connections...

Is it setting you on the path that you really desire to go...or the path that you feel that you need to travel?

I think so. Personally, I came here hoping to find myself along the way, and I think I'm really close to doing that. I really didn't know what I wantedto do with my life before coming here, and I've done some good soul searching since being here. If I weren't in college, I probably wouldn't evenbe close to having a clue what I wanted to do with my life. Professionally, it's helping to put me on the path that I need to/want to be on. My school isknown to have a pretty tight relationship with alumni, and the network is really great after you graduate.

I wanna type more, but it's hard to put everything into words right now...and I need to go to bed...

Side note: I've narrowed my decisions down to either Finance or Management for my major. I'm considering minoring in Economics (I would only have totake 3 more classes, and I like Economics), and trying to get a certificate in International Business (it's all my school offers...it would requirestudying abroad, which I'm hoping to do next summer). I have until April 28 to decide. Any advice? (Yes, I realize I should decide on my own, and I plan todo that. But a few opinions couldn't hurt, right?)
 
i learned more outside of class than inside it. i grew as a person but didnt learn anything in class...
 
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but it all honesty, I don't know if I'd be doing what I'm doing if I hadn't gone to HU, or an HBCU. Prolly would continued on withclinical....gone to grad school, basically lived a selfish existence. Right now my entire career outlook is devoted to service and helping out a youngergeneration; help that I may not even fully see manifest in my lifetime. The want to do that definitely came from Howard and listening/looking at professorsthat did that. It came from tutoring/mentoring kids right around the way from out campus. I'm glad and forever greatful for it. College helped me findmy true passion. I honestly could care less about having a ton of money and driving expensive cars, which is some reason why many people major inwhat they major in at school. I'm totally content that at best, I'll be prolly be middle class, hopefully upper middle class--and I'm totallycontent.

I encourage all my students to go to college and strive for that, even the ones I know probably won't want to---but I don't want to be the teacher theylook back on and say "maaaaan, even she didn't even think I'd amount to anything" I encourage all people to get SOME kind of higher learning(whether it be a tech or vocational school)....cuz I see too many people now in their 30s, and 40s tryna hustle and go back, just do it when you're youngand can reap social benefits from it as well.
 
Originally Posted by tmay407

Side note: I've narrowed my decisions down to either Finance or Management for my major. I'm considering minoring in Economics (I would only have to take 3 more classes, and I like Economics), and trying to get a certificate in International Business (it's all my school offers...it would require studying abroad, which I'm hoping to do next summer). I have until April 28 to decide. Any advice? (Yes, I realize I should decide on my own, and I plan to do that. But a few opinions couldn't hurt, right?)

do the study abroad program? Honestly it cant really hurt you in any way. Having an international Business Certificate can only make you more valuable to anycompany in terms of gloablization or relations with foreign countries. Not to mention i've heard that studying abroad is one of the best experiences youcan have. It gives you a totally different perspective on things once you've experienced life outside of the US.

so i say go ahead & do it... where would you be going btw?
 
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

I'm about a year away from finishing an accelerated Masters program and i've been reflecting on my life, my future and the role that the college experience has played in all of it. I'm wondering if all the sacrifices made have been worth it, what have I really learned and what path are these degrees putting me on....

How do you guys feel about the college experience?

Is it working out for you?

Is it setting you on the path that you really desire to go...or the path that you feel that you need to travel?

For those who have graduated and are currently employed (or unemployed) ...was it time well spent are you satisfied?

Lets get some honest discussion about the pro/cons of the college experience....


I need a couple more years to graduate but so far I haven't regretted goin to college. Yea at times its tough but I think its more of a balancing act. Inoticed that you have a lot more free time than usual. You just have to know when its time to have fun n when to get on your grind n do school work. You saidyour in an accelerated masters program. What major? And if you could provide more info that would be great. I'm thinkin of headin right into graduateschool right after I graduate. That way I dnt get lazy.
 
Haze, If u dont mind me asking, How are u paying for your Masters?
Grant? Loan? outta pocket? Scholarship?
 
I spent my Freshman year attending CUNY Baruch, and despised my time there. The overachiever in me thought the only way to make the best out of my collegeexperience was to not only go away for school, but go to as prestigious a school as I could possibly get into. That was a grave mistake, and I'm paying forit everyday here at Cornell. I never visited the school, just applied because it was ranked in the top 1%. Unless you're of the majority race, I feel anyschool of this caliber will whittle away at your sanity and stability. I had a 4.0 leaving Baruch, have around a 3.0 now, and during the weekdays I don'thave time to do anything. Thurs-Sat though, I'm drunk and at as many parties as possible. This isn't necessarily to have fun, but to temporarily takemy mind off of how badly this school sucks. Had I known what I know now, please believe I would have went to Morehouse or HU and had the time of my life.Nothing here is very beneficial for minorities (at least socially). Parties are usually lame, Greek life is weaksauce, and the girls are psycho-vultures forany guy who is mildly attractive.
 
I went to two schools - The first because I got a full scholarship to play soccer and the second because I was not happy at the first.

Let me just say - If you're NOT happy at a certain school, don't hesitate to transfer, if it's within your reach. Sure, I made friends and I was onscholarship at my first school, but the overall aura of the school was just negative...people left every weekend because there was nothing to do there, no onecared about [Division II] sports there, it was always dreery, and the education was NOT challenging. Transferring to a bigger school (from 6k to 18k) in atotally different environment (from Pennsylvania to South Carolina) was the best thing I ever did.

Key things I've learned after the fact (I'm 23, graduated for about a year now) -

-although you're there for an education, the social aspect is such an enriching part of the experience...get involved, put yourself out there

-find one or two special teachers that you can confide in...I had this dude for like 2 years straight because he taught all the classes in my journalismminor...not only did he save me a ton of money with advice on certain classes (that I wouldn't have known otherwise), he got me in to some clutch classes Ineeded and worked to help me out in certain situations

-Unless you're going to any schooling after college (grad, medical etc) or some profession I'm not aware of, grades don't really matter after yougraduate. 100% of the jobs I've applied to (all in media/entertainment/journalism) have never asked me for grades - now I happily work at a place thatI've admired ever since I've turned on a TV

-Internships/relevant experience to your major - you're a fool if you don't do this during college. If I hadn't have had any experience duringcollege, I would have never gotten any jobs...point blank. I'm talking jobs in the mainstream media that thousands are applying for...not your localmarketing firm that has 3 clients

-relax and have fun


***oh, and the only thing I would say I missed out on was a study abroad semester...due to athletic commitments....all my friends that went basically said itwas a semester long vacation and you got to explore anywhere and everywhere. Sounds okay to me.
 
I graduated 5 years ago. College is highly overrated, but it's a good learning experience.
 
im a junior in high school. So right now im pretty worried about WHERE to go to college. ive looked at plenty of school but i just dont know how to pick and imscared ill end up hating the one i go to.
how can i narrow it down?
 
Originally Posted by impalaballa187

I spent my Freshman year attending CUNY Baruch, and despised my time there. The overachiever in me thought the only way to make the best out of my college experience was to not only go away for school, but go to as prestigious a school as I could possibly get into. That was a grave mistake, and I'm paying for it everyday here at Cornell. I never visited the school, just applied because it was ranked in the top 1%. Unless you're of the majority race, I feel any school of this caliber will whittle away at your sanity and stability. I had a 4.0 leaving Baruch, have around a 3.0 now, and during the weekdays I don't have time to do anything. Thurs-Sat though, I'm drunk and at as many parties as possible. This isn't necessarily to have fun, but to temporarily take my mind off of how badly this school sucks. Had I known what I know now, please believe I would have went to Morehouse or HU and had the time of my life. Nothing here is very beneficial for minorities (at least socially). Parties are usually lame, Greek life is weaksauce, and the girls are psycho-vultures for any guy who is mildly attractive.



impalaballa187, how would you have known about Cornell's social shortcomings even if you had visited the campus? What else do you not like about Cornell? Iconsistently hear about some of the things you mentioned, especially in regards to those of color. In your opinion, is it worth attending a school for thename? If you don't want to get into specifics here, feel free to PM me. I'm hoping to apply to a couple prestigious/Ivy League schools (Cornell NOTbeing one of them) and would appreciate firsthand insight.
 
I'm in my 3rd year of undergrad and I go back and forth on this subject with myself at least weekly, if not daily. I just turned 22 and I've alreadytaken 2 breaks from school, once for a year and once for a semester.

I'm an English major. I love reading and writing. At times though, the educational regimen seems so structured and rigid. Everyone talks about how muchmore free flowing college is compared to high school, and it can be, but at times it still feels very confining.

As far as the social life goes: enjoy it while you're young. It'll definitely get old after a while. I'm only 22 and I've honestly been sick ofit for a good 2 years, but I still participate.


Honestly, it may be because I %#!#@% around in high school despite my intelligence and I should be at a more "prestigious" university, but I reallyfeel like I'm surrounded by dumbasses 90% of the time. Nobody cares anymore. Nobody wants to put in the effort (myself included). I look around a class atany given time and at least 1/3 of the class is glued to their QWERTY keyboard cell phones. It's kind of disturbing to be honest.


At the end of the day, college is like anything else in life: it is what you make it.
 
Originally Posted by LittlePeteWrigley

Originally Posted by impalaballa187

I spent my Freshman year attending CUNY Baruch, and despised my time there. The overachiever in me thought the only way to make the best out of my college experience was to not only go away for school, but go to as prestigious a school as I could possibly get into. That was a grave mistake, and I'm paying for it everyday here at Cornell. I never visited the school, just applied because it was ranked in the top 1%. Unless you're of the majority race, I feel any school of this caliber will whittle away at your sanity and stability. I had a 4.0 leaving Baruch, have around a 3.0 now, and during the weekdays I don't have time to do anything. Thurs-Sat though, I'm drunk and at as many parties as possible. This isn't necessarily to have fun, but to temporarily take my mind off of how badly this school sucks. Had I known what I know now, please believe I would have went to Morehouse or HU and had the time of my life. Nothing here is very beneficial for minorities (at least socially). Parties are usually lame, Greek life is weaksauce, and the girls are psycho-vultures for any guy who is mildly attractive.



impalaballa187, how would you have known about Cornell's social shortcomings even if you had visited the campus? What else do you not like about Cornell? I consistently hear about some of the things you mentioned, especially in regards to those of color. In your opinion, is it worth attending a school for the name? If you don't want to get into specifics here, feel free to PM me. I'm hoping to apply to a couple prestigious/Ivy League schools (Cornell NOT being one of them) and would appreciate firsthand insight.
both of you guys, check your PMs.
 
Originally Posted by Dead Stokc

I enjoyed my time spent in college. I learned
alot, about my self, eduacation, and life experiences
over all.
Originally Posted by eye see soles

College does teach you a lot. It teaches you how to BS. Fact is, you really don't learn much in college that will help you snag a job. They don't teach you networking skills, communication skills, interpersonal skills, but they do teach you how to pass a class. They teach you how to have a good time.

College is a business. First and foremost. It may be made up as this world in which young adults learns all life has to offer, but that is far from the truth. A good majority of the professors do not care about their students, but moreso about maintaining the status quo. A lot will pass you for trying; others won't.

I don't know. College to me has been a waste of money. Yea, I'll have a few bachelors degrees when I graduate, but what does it mean if I can't use them? It is not the fault of academia that job are so scarce right now, but I don't think they are doing much about it. An employer wants someone who is well-rounded enough to handle the workload, but also to wear other hats if possible. A liberal arts college may very well prepare you for this, but in my experience, it doesn't.

So instead of a school boasting about its ranking, it ought to emphasize how it can help us, the students, achieve at life, and not just this four year hold off from the "real world". I'm not really proposing they do many things different, but that they stress the importance of certain skills and not just GPA and various graduate entrance exams.

A lot of students will miss the ball due to lack of preparation. If that isn't the task of college, then whose task is it?
Bascially.

And yes I was able to land a job in my field and god willing, I will be able to remain there.

If I had to do it all over again, the only change I would make would be that I would go to a PWI instead of an HBCU.
One thing I do know, I will Not even attempt to get my MBA unless my company pays for it
You already know.

But at the end of the day
I think it was worth it.
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Originally Posted by LittlePeteWrigley

Originally Posted by impalaballa187

I spent my Freshman year attending CUNY Baruch, and despised my time there. The overachiever in me thought the only way to make the best out of my college experience was to not only go away for school, but go to as prestigious a school as I could possibly get into. That was a grave mistake, and I'm paying for it everyday here at Cornell. I never visited the school, just applied because it was ranked in the top 1%. Unless you're of the majority race, I feel any school of this caliber will whittle away at your sanity and stability. I had a 4.0 leaving Baruch, have around a 3.0 now, and during the weekdays I don't have time to do anything. Thurs-Sat though, I'm drunk and at as many parties as possible. This isn't necessarily to have fun, but to temporarily take my mind off of how badly this school sucks. Had I known what I know now, please believe I would have went to Morehouse or HU and had the time of my life. Nothing here is very beneficial for minorities (at least socially). Parties are usually lame, Greek life is weaksauce, and the girls are psycho-vultures for any guy who is mildly attractive.



impalaballa187, how would you have known about Cornell's social shortcomings even if you had visited the campus? What else do you not like about Cornell? I consistently hear about some of the things you mentioned, especially in regards to those of color. In your opinion, is it worth attending a school for the name? If you don't want to get into specifics here, feel free to PM me. I'm hoping to apply to a couple prestigious/Ivy League schools (Cornell NOT being one of them) and would appreciate firsthand insight.
While Cornell is terrible socially for minority students, among the ivy league it's the best by far. I have friends at Princeton, Harvard, andDartmouth who are all more depressed with the condition of their school than I am. The only comparable one would be UPENN, but Penn is only good for Wharton.Honestly, visiting wouldn't have done anything, it would have just given me false hope. On every visiting weekend they make sure that there's a LOTgoing on. For example, next weekend is our diversity hosting weekend. We have an upstate stepshow, minority fashion show, and some BBQ's going on. NONE ofthat happens on the regular.

With regards to attending a school for it's name, honestly Grad school is inevitable for most people nowadays, and that is where the name is the onlyrelevant criteria. For undergrad I would advise someone go to a state school or HBCU; have the time of your life; then attend an Ivy or top tier school foryour Graduate program.

One thing in particular I strongly dislike about Cornell is the detachment from faculty. It's such a large school that there isn't any intimacy betweenprofessors and students. IFyou do go to class, the professor will not give a damn about individual students, they leave that up to TA's(who care only slightly more... if at all.)

If you're a minority, I'd advise you go to an HBCU, or somewhere in the south if you value your social life. If you care solely on academics and schoolrankings, head to the northeast.
 
Originally Posted by DOWNTOWN43

Originally Posted by LittlePeteWrigley

Originally Posted by impalaballa187

I spent my Freshman year attending CUNY Baruch, and despised my time there. The overachiever in me thought the only way to make the best out of my college experience was to not only go away for school, but go to as prestigious a school as I could possibly get into. That was a grave mistake, and I'm paying for it everyday here at Cornell. I never visited the school, just applied because it was ranked in the top 1%. Unless you're of the majority race, I feel any school of this caliber will whittle away at your sanity and stability. I had a 4.0 leaving Baruch, have around a 3.0 now, and during the weekdays I don't have time to do anything. Thurs-Sat though, I'm drunk and at as many parties as possible. This isn't necessarily to have fun, but to temporarily take my mind off of how badly this school sucks. Had I known what I know now, please believe I would have went to Morehouse or HU and had the time of my life. Nothing here is very beneficial for minorities (at least socially). Parties are usually lame, Greek life is weaksauce, and the girls are psycho-vultures for any guy who is mildly attractive.



impalaballa187, how would you have known about Cornell's social shortcomings even if you had visited the campus? What else do you not like about Cornell? I consistently hear about some of the things you mentioned, especially in regards to those of color. In your opinion, is it worth attending a school for the name? If you don't want to get into specifics here, feel free to PM me. I'm hoping to apply to a couple prestigious/Ivy League schools (Cornell NOT being one of them) and would appreciate firsthand insight.
both of you guys, check your PMs.

There's nothing there...
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Originally Posted by impalaballa187

I spent my Freshman year attending CUNY Baruch, and despised my time there. The overachiever in me thought the only way to make the best out of my college experience was to not only go away for school, but go to as prestigious a school as I could possibly get into. That was a grave mistake, and I'm paying for it everyday here at Cornell. I never visited the school, just applied because it was ranked in the top 1%. Unless you're of the majority race, I feel any school of this caliber will whittle away at your sanity and stability. I had a 4.0 leaving Baruch, have around a 3.0 now, and during the weekdays I don't have time to do anything. Thurs-Sat though, I'm drunk and at as many parties as possible. This isn't necessarily to have fun, but to temporarily take my mind off of how badly this school sucks. Had I known what I know now, please believe I would have went to Morehouse or HU and had the time of my life. Nothing here is very beneficial for minorities (at least socially). Parties are usually lame, Greek life is weaksauce, and the girls are psycho-vultures for any guy who is mildly attractive.
No wonder people from Cornell are always at Syracuse on the weekends.

I didn't think you would hate Cornell the way you do. I remember when you got in and you were excited to go.
 
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

I'm about a year away from finishing an accelerated Masters program and i've been reflecting on my life, my future and the role that the college experience has played in all of it. I'm wondering if all the sacrifices made have been worth it, what have I really learned and what path are these degrees putting me on....

How do you guys feel about the college experience?

Is it working out for you?

Is it setting you on the path that you really desire to go...or the path that you feel that you need to travel?

For those who have graduated and are currently employed (or unemployed) ...was it time well spent are you satisfied?

Lets get some honest discussion about the pro/cons of the college experience....

I love school and always have. I'm steadily but surely inching towards my first degree and will graduate in a couple of years. I thank God every nightfor the chance to be in school and better my life, and that of those around me.

It's stressful 90% of the time, but I couldn't see myself doing anything else at this age and point in my life other than being in the military.

One thing I will tell people who talk down on higher education is this: If you're already smart, you're right; you're not going to college to getsmarter. You're going to college to develop your network which will last you the rest of your life. I actually flippantly told my brother one summer thatI was "too smart" to be in college, and he was aghast. "Mike, everyone knows your smart," he said. "But you can't make theconnections you want with just a high school degree." The man was speaking the truth.

Another reason I love being in school is it enables me to defy the statistics that typically portray young African-American and Hispanic males as miscreantsand vitriolic cancers to the communities they live in. I'm not a statistic.

I know all my hard work will have paid off when I get to walk across that stage someday soon and get that diploma in my hand. All my musical aspirations arestill embedded deep in my mind, but to have that degree to fall back on will make anyone who ever supported me so proud. God has really blessed me.
 
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