Houston Texans Pre-Season 2014 - NT Bowl 2.5...Battle For Roster Spots

[Peep Game]

Everybody should know what this is about. We took the next step to becoming perennial playoff contenders, but we're also


trying to get that Super Bowl right now. 



This is copy and pasted from Sole Searchin's last post in our Official Houston Texans Fans Thread, and we'll see how stuff goes


from here:



Jason AllenDefensive Back2012: Free Agent


Mike BrisielGuard2012: Free Agent
Tim BulmanDefensive Lineman2012: Free Agent
Quintin DempsDefensive Back2012: Restricted Free Agent
Tim DobbinsLinebacker2012: Free Agent
Joel DreessenTight End2012: Free Agent

Arian FosterRunning Back2012: Restricted Free Agent
Bryant JohnsonWide Receiver2012: Free Agent
Chris MyersGuard2012: Free Agent
Neil RackersPlace Kicker2012: Free Agent
Derrick WardRunning Back2012: Free Agent
Jon WeeksCenter2012: Exclusive Rights Free Agent
Mario WilliamsLinebacker2012: Free Agent

FA's for 2012, with BOLD being who we need to sign back. Priority IMO goes:

Foster (pay the man after 2.5 years of being paid under a million) and NO Tate is not the answer without Foster
Brisiel and Myers (best Oline in the league, must stay together)
Dreessen (good safety for OD, and if we sign Dreessen, may mean the end of OD coming up soon)
Allen without a true #2CB we need Allen for reassurance for KJ and a third CB

Now on to Mario, he's still an unknown in this system. We know what Barwin and Reed (as a rookie) can do, but still do not know about Mario


 (he needs to be consistent). As of now, I'd use the Franchise tender on him and see if he can play consistently well and/or stay healthy.




[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Also, here is a list of the top 50 potential free agents, some of which the Texans could/should probably take a look at, followed[/font]


by other notable free agents:

1. Drew Brees		QB	33
2. Carl Nicks		G	27
3. Ray Rice		RB	25
4. Arian Foster (Restricted)		RB	26
5. Robert Mathis		DE	31
6. Cortland Finnegan		CB	28
7.  Calais Campbell		DE	26
8. Matt Forte		RB	26
9. Jermichael Finley		TE	25
10. Wes Welker		WR	31
11. Mario Williams		LB	27
12. Dwayne Bowe		WR	27
13. Cliff Avril		DE	26
14. Mike Wallace (Restricted)		WR	26
15. Ben Grubbs		G	28
16. John Abraham		DE	34
17. Curtis Lofton		LB	26
18. Marques Colston		WR	29
19. Stephen Tulloch		LB	28
20. Brent Grimes		CB	29
21. Brodrick Bunkley		DT	28
22. Marshawn Lynch		RB	26
23. Alex Smith		QB	28
24.  D’Qwell Jackson		LB	28
25. Vincent Jackson		WR	29
26. Lardarius Webb		CB	26
27. Cory Redding		DE	31
28. Steve Johnson		WR	26
29. Carlos Rogers		CB	31
30. Paul Soliai		DT	28
31. Chris Meyers		C	30
32. David Hawthorne		LB	27
33. Sione Pouha		DT	33
34. DeSean Jackson		WR	25
35. Matt Flynn		QB	27
36. Brandon Carr		CB	26
37. Anthony Spencer		LB	28
38.  LaRon Landry		S	27
39. Jason Campbell		QB	30
40. Reggie Wayne		WR	33
41. Jeremy Mincey		DE	28
42. Brandon Lloyd		WR	31
43.  Matt Roth		DE	29
44. Peyton Hillis		RB	26
45.  Michael Griffin		S	27
46. Jarrett Johnson		LB	31
47. Scott Wells		C	31
48.  Tyvon Branch		S	25
49. Laurent Robinson		WR	27
50. Terrell Thomas		CB	28

Other Notable 2012 Free Agents:


Richard Marshall – ARI

Kroy Biermann – ATL

Matt Birk – BAL

Dan Conner – CAR

Greg Olsen – CAR

Bobbie Williams – CIN

Ryan Grant – GB

Jeff Saturday – IND

Rashean Mathis – JAC

Kyle Orton – KC

E.J. Henderson – MIN

BenJarvus Green-Ellis – NE

Tracy Porter – NO

Robert Meachem – NO

Aubrayo Franklin – NO

Michael Bush – OAK

Nick Hardwick – SD

Mike Tolbert – SD

Fred Davis – WAS

 

[Peep Game]

Also, this is the complete list of potential free agents: http://nfltraderumors.co/...1022012-nfl-free-agents/

 

[trimane24]

Get a CB and sign the rest of the FA and we good. Release KJackson

 

[sonoftony]

Texans fans, you guys had a great season. Yall know i ride and die with my Titans but I'm a football fan also. You guys have a scary defense and our rivalry will get more intense this coming season. If Shaub was healthy, things woulda been different IMO. My question is, DelHomme has playoff experience. Why didn't they put him in?

 

[sole searchin]

Originally Posted by SonOfTony

Texans fans, you guys had a great season. Yall know i ride and die with my Titans but I'm a football fan also. You guys have a scary defense and our rivalry will get more intense this coming season. If Shaub was healthy, things woulda been different IMO. My question is, DelHomme has playoff experience. Why didn't they put him in?

Is Delhomme really that much better then Yates, especially not taking snaps with the first team, no timing, coming in mid season? Also, if we do win, we would go back to Yates for the AFC championship game and how does a benching work for his confidence, not that well. To me, you play Yates, no question about it, he know's the team, the starters, just lacked the experience.
But in regards to my list up top, I really don't know what to do with Mario if his franchise cap is around 18-20 Million and we couldn't resign some of the O-line. To me behind Foster, the O-line is the most important signing we need to do, we must keep them together. 

FA won't be that big of a deal for the Texans IMO (in regards to getting new players, but if we just resign our players, we'll be fine) just attack the draft with some more depth at the OL, CB, and get a #2WR ASAP through the draft, it'll be cheaper then getting one in FA.

 

[bravo]

delhome was trash. his body wasnt ready for the game hence the retirement...

i agree with sole searchin... other than signing foster we def need to keep the ol as is (lord knows we had enough bad oline years)... a 2nd cb and wr would be a nice touch on top..

cant wait to see what nike cooks up for the uniforms.

 

[Peep Game]

I'm pretty up in the air about Mario too. We balled out with Barwin/Reed/Watt stepping up big time, but I don't know if
we could do that from the start without Mario.

I heard that more than likely, any holes we have to feel will definitely be done through the draft, and we're trying to resign
our own guys before even thinking about stepping out to free agency. The cap room is the problem for us, cause I don't
think we have loads of money to spend. I'd love to have Colston or Vincent Jackson on the other side of Andre, but just
right now that's not looking like a very likely option.

Ditto on sole searchin's explanation of Yates/Delhomme. You ride with your QB til the wheels fall off.

 

[statis22]

Nicks & Bowe please.

Getting the feeling they will let Mario walk and re up Arian.

 

[Peep Game]

I'm sure everybody already heard of the Raiders snatching up Greg Knapp as their OC, so we signed Karl Dorrell as
our new Quarterbacks coach, who was with the Dolphins last year.

 

[ag 47]

I look at this Texans team and I'm not really sure what position you guys would need to address.

QB - check
RB - check
WR - check
OL - check
DL - check
LB - check
DB - ?

Maybe defensive back? Jonathan Joseph had a great year, but maybe the CB opposite could use an upgrade? There's a handful of solid FA Corners.

I doubt you guys resign Super Mario. I don't think he's worth 8-10 mill a year, let alone whatever the franchise tag would be. Plus the defense didn't skip a beat without him.

Questions: Is Wade Phillips coming back? How are you on draft picks? What happens with Ben Tate?

 

[Peep Game]

We could definitely use another DB, cause Kareem always gets picked on, and even though Jason Allen does make plays, he also gets caught
out of position and stuff sometimes. I do see us addressing a WR in the first round though, cause as great as Andre is, and even though he'll be
getting healthy, we still need a legit #2 guy on the opposite side. Jacoby is wildly inconsistent, and no one is afraid of Kevin Walter.

I doubt we resign Mario too, cause a franchise tag on him would be like 22-28 mill, which could easily be used on 2 draft picks.

Philips is coming back, and once we give Foster a long term deal, him and Tate will just continue to be a 1-2 punch, cause everybody knows
how important Foster is in the redzone, no matter if Tate is a 2nd round pick. Tate is not ready to be THE guy, and he doesn't have to be.

And I think we have 7 total picks, not including what we traded away for Derrick Mason in the middle of the season.

 

[Renaldo Balkman]

Scratch Bowe and Mario Williams off that list cause they are headed to Buffalo... and the Superbowl

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

Originally Posted by rayray3thousand

Scratch Bowe and Mario Williams off that list cause they are headed to Buffalo... and the Superbowl

 

[primetime21]

Bears vs Texans in super bowl 47 

 

[ag 47]

I doubt we resign Mario too, cause a franchise tag on him would be like 22-28 mill, which could easily be used on 2 draft picks.

only 3 people in the NFL worth that a year. He's not one of them.

And as far as WR, there's a good list of FA's available. I ain't a Houston fan, but either Jackson or Stevie Johnson along with Dre would be insane. I'm not sure what the draft holds for WRs outside of the top 3 prospects, but I don't suspect those guys being available in the bottom third of the draft.

With very little holes to fill and what seems like plenty of resources to do so, it's really y'all division to lose at this point.

 

[primetime21]

Mario Williams will be a bear with peppers.

 

[Peep Game]

Originally Posted by JumpmanFromDaBay

Originally Posted by rayray3thousand

Scratch Bowe and Mario Williams off that list cause they are headed to Buffalo... and the Superbowl

 

[ag 47]

Originally Posted by primetime21

Mario Williams will be a bear with peppers.

Ya'll need to resign Forte for the zillionth time already. Not even spend a penny on defense and finally get a goddamn WR for Cutler to throw to.

 

[statis22]

Gotta keep the offensive line intact & resign Arian.

FO shouldn't get complacent with a little taste of success.

 

[primetime21]

Originally Posted by AG 47

Originally Posted by primetime21

Mario Williams will be a bear with peppers.

Ya'll need to resign Forte for the zillionth time already. Not even spend a penny on defense and finally get a goddamn WR for Cutler to throw to.

don't worry we will resign forte and sign vjax and draft floyd we have ALOT of cap space. edit: mario is a pipe dream tho 

 

[zmoney3]

A Foster....5 years $43 mil...$20 guaranteed. Play hard...PLAY hard.

 

[sole searchin]

Very cap friendly deal by Arian. I believe he could have made more, since this deal was based on D. Williams and Foster is and has been much better.

Onto Meyers now, but if he is franchised, that's a 9.5 Million dollas hit since all OL are grouped together. As much as I still want to keep Mario, if he wants money, he'll get it, but if he wants to stay and win, the Texans will pay him, but we can't give him the most money.

 

[blackxme]

Mario is gone. I think we all see it coming. The Texans just don't have any cap space to work with. 
Sign Briesel and Myers and let's improve through the draft 

 

[Peep Game]

Yea, this was probably the writing on the wall for Mario. I'd love to have him back, but with our cap situation, and the money
he could command on the market, it's really not possible.

Foster's deal is both good for him AND the Texans, so props to both for making that happen, cause Foster should have been the
priority over Mario anyway. Keep the line in tact, and we're all good heading into the draft.

 

[trimane24]

Hate to lose Mario but I think J.J. and Brooks will be ok, Really hope we can find a decent CB and WR in draft.