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Originally Posted by DiPlOmAt TDOt
Originally Posted by AirAlphabet
The sky is the limit for him.
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Originally Posted by DiPlOmAt TDOt
Originally Posted by AirAlphabet
The sky is the limit for him.
Originally Posted by GSDOUBLEU
basicallyOriginally Posted by Bigmike23
become a better rebounder for his size and defend better
he can be top 5 in the NBA
Originally Posted by mjshoefanatic
If he gains 30 more lbs he'll be a serious issue next season.
no he wouldn't.Originally Posted by mjshoefanatic
If he gains 30 more lbs he'll be a serious issue next season.
Originally Posted by JWing
not even close dude. Manu is crafty but his skills are not up to par with KDOriginally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Is it just me or is Kevin Durant what would happen if Manu got drafted as a franchise player?
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Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Originally Posted by JWing
not even close dude. Manu is crafty but his skills are not up to par with KDOriginally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Is it just me or is Kevin Durant what would happen if Manu got drafted as a franchise player?What?
2008
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The real difference between the 2 seems that Durant takes far less threes than he use to, I would say that use to be the same of Ginobili in his younger days only in the past couple years has he really become a deadly three point shooter. Durant's high 3 point percentage doesn't mean he is a better shooter he takes far far less of them so his percentage naturally would be higher.
Other than that their field goal percentage's are pretty similar at every turn and they take almost the exact same amount of inside shots. I'm purely talking about scoring because Manu is better at just about every other aspect of the game of basketball and rely's less on his teamates to create shots for him.
I think Kevin Durant is very similar to Manu except he take more midrange jumpers rather than 3's like young Manu.
I love Durant as much as the next guy but just saying he is going to score 30 a game like that, like it is some easy feat, I'm not sure he doesn't take enough three's or get to the line at a high enough rate to score 30+ a game and he plays on a bad team and for someone who is supposed to get 30 a game he gets assisted by his team mates more than other high profile scorers...what happens when his team gets better and the rely less on him for scoring and he doesn't have to chuck as much.
For him to score 30 he needs to make more three's, become a better ball handler, or improve his post game.
Originally Posted by yungmatt
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Originally Posted by JWing
not even close dude. Manu is crafty but his skills are not up to par with KDOriginally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Is it just me or is Kevin Durant what would happen if Manu got drafted as a franchise player?What?
2008
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Log off... And take your stat charts with you.
My point, the team is going to get better not worse, he won't be relied upon to score as much, kind of like Carmelo. I'm not necessarilysaying he doesn't have the skills too I'm saying that logically base one what he is doing now and the inevitable improvement of the thunder I don'tthink you should automatically assume he will score 30 a game.Originally Posted by I NaSmatic I
KD is averaging 26 PPG with his current style of play...the only reason I can see him not get 30 PPG will be if rest of the team develops to the point where he has to share the ball more.
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
You can either use your brain and come up with a reason why I am wrong, or don't bother posting. If you don't have an actual point to make their is no point contributing such a silly middle school NTer post.
I'm merely presenting an alternate viewpoint to consider, just because it doesn't coincide with what ever your belief is on this entirely subjective matter doesn't mean you stick your head in the sand like a kid.
1. Everytime you discuss hoops, you post a bunch of irrelevant stat charts that dont back up the point your trying to make and no one cares to read .
Ok champ.
2. Hes getting what? 26 and change this year, so what in the world makes you think he wont avg 1 more fg and 2 more trips to the line next season? It really just makes no sense to me.
That is a list of the top 10 scorers in active scorers in the NBA bolded are the ones who have ever scored 30 points a game in their career. Those who did doit's did it on very depleted offensive teams where they a lot of time the only option on offense. The Thunder a crappy team are ninth fastest tempo team inthe league...and team that is only going to get better. All I am trying to say is scoring 30 is not an easy feat, lots of players have the skills to do it buta lot of it depends on the team and the situation.
1. LeBron James 27.51 2. Allen Iverson 27.07 3. Kobe Bryant 25.14 4. Shaquille O'Neal 24.77 5. Carmelo Anthony 24.23 6. Vince Carter 23.52 7. Paul Pierce 22.88 8. Dirk Nowitzki 22.71 9. Tracy McGrady 22.05 10. Tim Duncan 21.42
3. Then you say Durant has to rely on his teammates to create his shots less than Manu does which isto me...
Next time read the chart the percentage of shots assisted is lower for Manu than it is for Durant a good deal lower, it doesn't mean Durantcan't create his own shot...all it means is that the current way that the offense is structured Durant doens't have to do it as much.
NEITHER of them need their teammates to be effective and even if they did
I don't think said need.
how the hell can you say Durant rely on his teammates more when Tim Duncan demands a double team..
That's true and actually strengthens my point if that is the case shouldn't a higher percentage of manu's points be assisted?
Make sense in your next post, please
Think next time.
Why does he have to do that?Originally Posted by arrjae
start setting people up (in a half court set)....