I guess I owe you guys an apology for this economic mess we're in...

Originally Posted by DLo13

I should have known this thread would go this route...

I was just salty that he singled out the 30% of us with blue eyes. Like the other 70% had nothing to do with this...
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You really don't get the point that Lula was making...or are you being purely sarcastic?
 
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by DLo13

I should have known this thread would go this route...

I was just salty that he singled out the 30% of us with blue eyes. Like the other 70% had nothing to do with this...
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You really don't get the point that Lula was making...or are you being purely sarcastic?
I thought it was obvious...
 
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by Fede DPT

Originally Posted by Cement Greyman

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Black folks take note.....the white community never takes collective blame for anything. No matter how damning the evidence may be....So next time you see someone saggin and "acting ghetto" in public....don't run to NT or your friends and cry about how black folks need to get it together.

Peep game.
Another generalization of one particular race.


Cant argue with this dude.

70% of black babies are born out of wedlock, but he'll blame the white man for that.

Show me that statistic please...and I will never post on NT again.

If you can't accurately show me respectable evidence that 70% of black babies are born out of wedlock....let it be know that you continually make unsupported and racist comments, with no critical thinking....so that we can all continue to disregard your posts.

[h2]Where are the fathers?[/h2]Study hopes to fill gap in information on absent African-American fathers
[font=verdana, geneva][size=-1]By Catherine Behan
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More than 70 percent of African-American children are born out of wedlock, with the majority raised by single mothers.

Where are the fathers?

Waldo Johnson, Jr., Assistant Professor in the School of Social Service Administration, intends to find out.

A scholar on the status of African-American fathers, Johnson is one of 10 investigators in the Fragile Families and Child Well-being Study, a national longtitudinal study -- the first of its kind -- on unmarried parents and their children. His segment of the study focuses on unmarried, low-income, African-American non-resident fathers.

"The study is designed to understand the circumstances of young, unmarried parents," Johnson said. "We have developed extensive public policy about these parents without any real information about them."

While researchers have gathered some information about single mothers, complementary information about single fathers, especially low-income, African-American, single non-resident fathers, is virtually unknown. In addition, how these unmarried couples interact in negotiating parenthood is also unknown.

The general perception, Johnson said, is that these fathers are not only absent, but they don't offer support -- financial or otherwise -- and don't care about their children. But a preliminary study of 20 unwed African-American mothers and 14 fathers residing in Chicago shows that the relationship between low-income, African-American fathers and their children is much more complex than that.

The relationship can be dramatically affected by a multitude of issues, Johnson said, such as the father's ability to provide financial support, the relationship between the mother and father, and the relationship between the unwed parents' families. According to preliminary findings, the mothers of unmarried parents may be particularly influential in whether a young unmarried couple continues their relationship and the degree to which a father is involved with his children.

The current study will determine what factors promote as well as inhibit fathers' relationships with their children, and address ways that public policy can potentially strengthen those relationships.

"We hope to identify the areas where there is some relationship between the fathers' involvement and their children's well-being, and recommend policies that can increase that interaction, including the provision of financial and emotional support to children of unwed fathers," Johnson said.

A major tenet of the most recent U.S. welfare reform law focuses on unwed fathers: make them take responsibility and make them pay child support.

"The belief is that all non-resident fathers are deadbeat dads who could provide for their children but choose not to," Johnson said. "There are some of those men, and those fathers should be held accountable for their children. But there are more low-income, poorly educated fathers with weak connections to the work force who want to be a part of their children's lives, but don't know how. The researchers on this study want to know what kinds of things are hindering these fathers from making a commitment to their children." Policies aimed at these fathers require a different set of interventions.

Many of the fathers in the Chicago pilot study were either out of work or sporadically employed. Among those employed fathers, many worked "off the books," or in marginally paying, non-permanent jobs that paid workers cash -- without any unemployment or health benefits.

"That could help explain why they aren't married or residing with their children," Johnson said. "If they think they can't be a provider for their children and their wives, they may choose to stay away from the family." They are also 'pushed out' because of their inability to support their families.

Johnson said the study will provide the empirical evidence that is needed to make sound policy decisions affecting children of unwed parents, and perhaps provoke change to encourage greater involvement among the unmarried non-resident fathers. He pointed out that current welfare reform provisions offer job and skill training to mothers, for example, but not fathers -- and yet nearly all of the fathers in the study were minimally employed or under-employed.


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[h1]First comes baby, then comes marriage?[/h1] [h2]In the black community, the motivation from peers or families to get married is gone.[/h2]
By Maryann Reid
NEW YORK - I thought I was on track to defy the gloomy family statistics that challenge today's African-American community: 70 percent of black children are born out of wedlock in the United States. Engaged, and with wedding plans under way, I was confident my future children would be born into a stable home. But then the wedding was called off.
In the days and months that followed I started to think long and hard about why it is all too common for black men and women to skip the trip to the altar. Even the couples who seem to have it together - a safe place for each other and their children to live and love - don't always take that final step. What was stopping them? I decided to explore the issue by writing a novel.
Through my interviews with hundreds of cohabiting but unmarried black couples with children across the economic spectrum, I learned about something we rarely discuss anymore: The motivation from peers or families to get married is gone, and so is the stigma about having a child out of wedlock. In fact, children without married parents have become so common in black communities that the term "baby daddy," an unwed father usually stereotyped as a ghetto caricature, has gone mainstream.

Last year my book, "Marry Your Baby Daddy," a story about three sisters who had to marry their significant others within six months to receive their grandmother's inheritance, was published. It was a satisfying experience but I didn't want it to end there - in the land of fairytales. I wanted to see tangible results - an actual wedding. And so I set about searching for 10 couples who would tie the knot for the first time in exchange for an all-expense paid ceremony.

The attitude that marriage is not necessary to nurture and raise our children is actually a new one in the black community. Historically, blacks have valued the institution of marriage and the traditional two- parent household. In 1890, 80 percent of African-American families were headed by two parents, even though many had started life in forced family separation under slavery. Even in the 1960s, when black Americans were in the height of civil rights strife, 23 percent of black babies were born out of wedlock, a modest figure compared with 70 percent today. And today's single moms aren't just welfare teens, either. Most out-of-wedlock black babies are being born to women in their 20s and 30s across the economic spectrum.

While the stigma against children born out of wedlock has diminished, the impact on community bonds has not. A recent study for the journal Criminology has revealed that "neighborhoods with larger portions of adults who are less 'invested' in marriage and residential stability are more likely to see higher rates of assault by African-American males." Children raised in fatherless homes are more likely to be delinquent, do poorly in school, have lower self-esteem, become chemical abusers, and reproduce the same family pattern in their own lives. In most cases, no matter how strong or diligent a mother may be, children have a subconscious knowledge of what is right and wrong in a family set up. Boys turn to their fathers for their sense of masculinity and manhood. If their dad isn't around, the streets and group aggression are the next best thing for most.

This doesn't mean that African-American men are less interested in marriage. I've come to believe they just don't have the encouragement to get married. In fact, 65 percent of the calls I received when the word got out that I was trying to find couples willing to participate in a free wedding came from men.

Local vendors were also more than willing to help make "Marry Your Baby Daddy Day" a success. I raised $90,000 of goods and services from local businesses, which donated dresses, cakes, rings, limousines, and more. I spent $138 of my own money. I earned nothing in return but the satisfaction of seeing 20 beautiful brown faces say, "We do," on Sept. 29, 2005.

It is my intention that these 10 couples will help to start a trend back toward single mothers encouraging marriage - for themselves as well as their daughters. And that single fathers will once again see marriage as a way to increase their value to their community. That's why I've founded Marry Your Baby Daddy Inc. as a nonprofit organization to promote and encourage marriage and family values in our community. The phones haven't stopped ringing from people wanting to participate or help in some way.

Already I've heard from the couples I interviewed for "Marry Your Baby Daddy Day" how this small incentive has helped improve their relationships. Many of them come from generations of unmarried couples or long-term "engagements." Some women shared that their men had become more responsive since signing on to be married, taking more initiative in the household, and seeming more interested in the future, now that marriage was a real possibility.

And the men have begun to see that marriage is not only a father's way of committing to the mother, but to the child as well, in a legally binding commitment that protects all - including his own rights.



The columnist above is a Black women, also.
Other findings in the Census Bureau report include the following:
  • The proportion of White women under age 30 who had a premaritally born or premaritally conceived first birth tripled, from 15 percent in the early 1930s to 45 percent in the early 1990s.
  • The comparable figure for African American women doubled, from 43 percent to 86 percent.

  • The proportion of first births to women 15-19 years old that were premaritally born or premaritally conceived increased from 28 percent in the early 1930s to 89 percent in the early 1990s.

  • In 1990-1994, about 85 percent of all first births to White women ages 15 to 19 were either premaritally born or premaritally conceived, compared with 25 percent for the 1930-1934 period.

  • The comparable figures for African American teenage women were 98 percent and 47 percent, respectively.



Peace out ABH.
 
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Its almost too easy to predict your moves.....I knew that's exactly what you were going to come with once your back was placed to a wall....well you forgotone thing....

Black. is a colloquialism used to represent the so-called GLOBAL "negroid race".

African-American. is an extremely recently popularized ethnicity, commonly used to representthose of the "negroid race" in North America and the Caribbean.

Propaganda and ignorance FTL.

Try again David Duke Jr.
 
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by Fede DPT

Originally Posted by Cement Greyman

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Black folks take note.....the white community never takes collective blame for anything. No matter how damning the evidence may be....So next time you see someone saggin and "acting ghetto" in public....don't run to NT or your friends and cry about how black folks need to get it together.

Peep game.
Another generalization of one particular race.


Cant argue with this dude.

70% of black babies are born out of wedlock, but he'll blame the white man for that.

Show me that statistic please...and I will never post on NT again.

If you can't accurately show me respectable evidence that 70% of black babies are born out of wedlock....let it be know that you continually make unsupported and racist comments, with no critical thinking....so that we can all continue to disregard your posts.
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there it is. disagree with him, you're aracist
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EDIT: ABH got ETHERED
also these are little facts out of LIFE magazine and the issue was "The american journey of barack obama"
1. 25% of blacks live in poverty
2. 70% are born out of wedlock
3. more than half of black children are fatherless(white mans fault ehh?)
4. while blacks represent 13% of US population, they are victims of 49% of all murders
5.93 percent of blacks were killed by other black people
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Yeah it's the white mans fault...
 
Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by Fede DPT

Originally Posted by Cement Greyman

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Black folks take note.....the white community never takes collective blame for anything. No matter how damning the evidence may be....So next time you see someone saggin and "acting ghetto" in public....don't run to NT or your friends and cry about how black folks need to get it together.

Peep game.
Another generalization of one particular race.


Cant argue with this dude.

70% of black babies are born out of wedlock, but he'll blame the white man for that.

Show me that statistic please...and I will never post on NT again.

If you can't accurately show me respectable evidence that 70% of black babies are born out of wedlock....let it be know that you continually make unsupported and racist comments, with no critical thinking....so that we can all continue to disregard your posts.
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there it is. disagree with him, you're a racist
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For a guy with all of this self-proclaimed intelligence. Your reading and comprehension skills are sub-par.

Did I call him a racist?

Read again.

Noticed how this turned into a "black witch hunt" and a total denial of European culpability in a European banking system.

Interesting dichotomy, ain't it?
 
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

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Its almost too easy to predict your moves.....I knew that's exactly what you were going to come with once your back was placed to a wall....well you forgot one thing....

Black. is a colloquialism used to represent the so-called GLOBAL "negroid race".

African-American. is an extremely recently popularized ethnicity, commonly used to represent those of the "negroid race" in North America and the Caribbean.

Propaganda and ignorance FTL.

Try again David Duke Jr.


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Let me be politically correct, because it seems I am being insensitive. I mean I guess being Black and African-American are different nowadays? Thats a newone.

70% of African- American/Negroid babies born within the United States are born out of wedlock. Proof? Just look above.
 
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by Fede DPT

Originally Posted by Cement Greyman

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Black folks take note.....the white community never takes collective blame for anything. No matter how damning the evidence may be....So next time you see someone saggin and "acting ghetto" in public....don't run to NT or your friends and cry about how black folks need to get it together.

Peep game.
Another generalization of one particular race.


Cant argue with this dude.

70% of black babies are born out of wedlock, but he'll blame the white man for that.

Show me that statistic please...and I will never post on NT again.

If you can't accurately show me respectable evidence that 70% of black babies are born out of wedlock....let it be know that you continually make unsupported and racist comments, with no critical thinking....so that we can all continue to disregard your posts.
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there it is. disagree with him, you're a racist
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For a guy with all of this self-proclaimed intelligence. Your reading and comprehension skills are sub-par.

Did I call him a racist?

Read again.

Noticed how this turned into a "black witch hunt" and a total denial of European culpability in a European banking system.

Interesting dichotomy, ain't it?
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please stop ABH, you're killing me with thisnonsense
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so it's the governments fault that 93 percent of killingsblack commit, are towards other blacks?
 
Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by Fede DPT

Originally Posted by Cement Greyman

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Black folks take note.....the white community never takes collective blame for anything. No matter how damning the evidence may be....So next time you see someone saggin and "acting ghetto" in public....don't run to NT or your friends and cry about how black folks need to get it together.

Peep game.
Another generalization of one particular race.


Cant argue with this dude.

70% of black babies are born out of wedlock, but he'll blame the white man for that.

Show me that statistic please...and I will never post on NT again.

If you can't accurately show me respectable evidence that 70% of black babies are born out of wedlock....let it be know that you continually make unsupported and racist comments, with no critical thinking....so that we can all continue to disregard your posts.
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there it is. disagree with him, you're a racist
eyes.gif

For a guy with all of this self-proclaimed intelligence. Your reading and comprehension skills are sub-par.

Did I call him a racist?

Read again.

Noticed how this turned into a "black witch hunt" and a total denial of European culpability in a European banking system.

Interesting dichotomy, ain't it?
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please stop ABH, you're killing me with this nonsense
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so it's the governments fault that 93 percent of killings black commit, are towards other blacks?
You know that stat is the same for all races, right? Not even just with murder by violent crime in general, 94% of the time it's intraracial.
 
I knew this would happen.
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DONT YOU ALL GET IT. BRAZILIAN PRESIDENT FTL! BRAZILIAN WOMEN FTW. Letsmake love (preferably to a beautiful brazilian woman) NOT WAR

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Originally Posted by Fede DPT

Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

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Its almost too easy to predict your moves.....I knew that's exactly what you were going to come with once your back was placed to a wall....well you forgot one thing....

Black. is a colloquialism used to represent the so-called GLOBAL "negroid race".

African-American. is an extremely recently popularized ethnicity, commonly used to represent those of the "negroid race" in North America and the Caribbean.

Propaganda and ignorance FTL.

Try again David Duke Jr.


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Let me be politically correct, because it seems I am being insensitive. I mean I guess being Black and African-American are different nowadays? Thats a new one.

70% of African- American/Negroid babies born within the United States are born out of wedlock. Proof? Just look above.

See how ignorant you are.

Thats like me saying 88% - 66% of "whites" are living poverty....when I really mean that 88 - 66% of "Whites" in several Eastern Europeannations are living in poverty.

Its not about being politically correct...its about having common sense.

Keep trying to turn a discussion about "white bankers" and the European banking system into an indictment of "African American" sociallife.....it shows your true thought process Sean Hannity.

I posted this in my other post but Yuku isn't showing it for some reason...."White people", indictments on inherently corrupt systems ofeconomics and government.....is not a necessarily personal indictment of you, your family or your friends. Its is a indictment on evil and corruption and youguys are tribally defending it. Defending this corrupt system of exploitation...destroys the true values, which America is professed to be founded upon. Youare defending all the things that keep our world moving towards destruction. The racial propaganda and media brainwashing in the last 40 years...has turnedmuch of America's young white population, into defenders of corruption...instead of soldiers for progress.

As a national ethnicity...you are going from this

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(John Brown (May 9, 1800 - December 2, 1859) was a white American abolitionist who advocated and practiced armed insurrection as a means toabolish slavery)

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You are defending your own destruction.
 
he came with a fact...

you said if he proved you wrong you would leave...

he proved you wrong...

you're still here...

ol 50 cent... if he win i'm retiring wait nah i take it back...

curtissssssssssssssss
 
Originally Posted by PeterJamesThe3rd

he came with a fact...

you said if he proved you wrong you would leave...

he proved you wrong...

you're still here...

ol 50 cent... if he win i'm retiring wait nah i take it back...

curtissssssssssssssss

He can't show proof that 70% of "black babies" are born out of wedlock because its not true.

Blacks are not exclusively African-American...the whole debate is flawed and racist. Thats why I called him out on that point.

Read the my previous posts.

Can I say that Upwards of 80% of "whites" live in poverty because its true of white populations in Eastern Europe?

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Stop perpetuating the stupidity fam...Our generation has to do better.

We're worried about PS3, Xbox Live and World Star HipHop, while the World is being stolen from right under our feet. As soon as we hear the terms black orwhite...we perform knee jerk reactions in defense of element of our perceived identities. Think critically about what is being said before taking a stance.
 
Originally Posted by Cement Greyman


We all share responsibility in the situation we find ourselves in. Pointing the blame on one particle race or gender is idiotic.

SHEEET!!
So why dont we all share the hundred million dollar bonuses, these guys get.
We all know who runs that wall street and banking hustle....not minorities
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ok... anyway... whats the name of shorty with the white top?
 
He can't show proof that 70% of "black babies" are born out of wedlock because its not true.

Yeah. Just totally disregard that I posted a FACT from the United States Census Bureau.


Just take you L and put in your NT Resignation papers.
 
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze

Originally Posted by PeterJamesThe3rd

he came with a fact...

you said if he proved you wrong you would leave...

he proved you wrong...

you're still here...

ol 50 cent... if he win i'm retiring wait nah i take it back...

curtissssssssssssssss

He can't show proof that 70% of "black babies" are born out of wedlock because its not true.

Blacks are not exclusively African-American...the whole debate is flawed and racist. Thats why I called him out on that point.

Read the my previous posts.

Can I say that Upwards of 80% of "whites" live in poverty because its true of white populations in Eastern Europe?

You honestly took him as referring to all blacks in the world and not African-Americans?
Come on.
 
I know I share no blame in the economic crisis we're in. It is the greedy people at the top of the corporate ladder. They control most of our lives,through lobbying and other despicable means. It just so happens that 99% of them are white.
 
Originally Posted by Fede DPT

He can't show proof that 70% of "black babies" are born out of wedlock because its not true.

Yeah. Just totally disregard that I posted a FACT from the United States Census Bureau.


Just take you L and put in your NT Resignation papers.


He's saying that in your original post you claimed "70% of all blacks in the entire world are born out of wedlock", and you provedthat "70% of all American blacks are born out of wedlock".
 
Originally Posted by MJsaver

Originally Posted by Cement Greyman


We all share responsibility in the situation we find ourselves in. Pointing the blame on one particle race or gender is idiotic.

SHEEET!!
So why dont we all share the hundred million dollar bonuses, these guys get.
We all know who runs that wall street and banking hustle....not minorities
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the way the following may appear wrong but oh well. lasttime i check there was a LARGE present of jews on wall street and within the financial sector. last time i check they were indeed minorities
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ABH dont play stupid, the article was about AFRICAN AMERICANS, not blacks in the world you. don't play stupid. i read this exact figure in LIFE magazine. iquoted the stats. please dont play stupid. he proved u wrong.

seriously, what do u plan to achieve by spreading this propaganda on this forum? do you think you'll start some sort of revolution and revolt againstwhites?
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honestly, i just don't get t..
 
Africans have the highest educational attainment rates of any immigrant group in the United States, with higher levels of completion than the stereotyped AsianAmerican model minority.

Harvard University, for example, has estimated that two-thirds of their black population is not traditional Afro Americans.This is true for other universitiessuch as Brown, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Columbia, Duke and Berkeley. As a result, the benefits of affirmative action are not efficiently serving traditionalmulti-generational black Americans who are descendants of American slaves


So much for the white man holding blacks down...please tell your people to step their own games up first, before they point fingers at other people. look inthe mirror.
 
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