If Delonte West really has these emotional problems, why aren't the Cavs excusing his absences?

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I saw someone make a comment about this on ESPN which followed the story about West missing the first two days of camp. It was interesting because I neverthought of it this way before. He's racking up unexcused absences and fines from Ferry & the Cavs, but if you know one of your players is REALLYbattling emotional/psychological problems, why wouldn't you just excuse his absences and not fine him? Where's the compassion from the Cavs, or isWest's act wearing thin?
 
Was reading last night they've said they've been "down this road before" with him. They will support him but sounds like things have happenedin the past and at the end of the day he has a job and everyone is expected to be here. Who knows what is happening really.
 
It would be different if he told his coaches that he was not going to be there. When you dont know where one of your players is, when he is not communicatingwith the team, how should that be excused?
 
or is West's act wearing thin?
I'm guessing this is the case, since they've been down this road before with him. And supposedly he stopped taking his meds which led tothe motorcycle incident.

I hope he gets himself together though. Everyone I've ever talked to here in Boston that has met Delonte has had nothing but good things to say about him.

edit: Didn't see RyGuy's post saying that the Cavs used those exact words. I mean...it makes sense.
 
Originally Posted by wohcttank

It would be different if he told his coaches that he was not going to be there. When you dont know where one of your players is, when he is not communicating with the team, how should that be excused?
If you're dealing w. a player who isn't all there mentally due to a psychological problem, I think that passes can be given in certainsituations. It's not like he's CHOOSING when to be crazy.
 
But if you take in the fact that they have been down this road before with him you would have to assume, a) they have tried getting him help in the past, b)they have put steps in place to help him and the organization, and c) they have a system where he is to either report in or notify them of things, etc.

This latest incident could be more so him not sticking with the program that him and his handlers agreed to with the team.
 
hopefully when he gets back on a routine it will be like he never left
 
Originally Posted by RyGuy45

But if you take in the fact that they have been down this road before with him you would have to assume, a) they have tried getting him help in the past, b) they have put steps in place to help him and the organization, and c) they have a system where he is to either report in or notify them of things, etc.

This latest incident could be more so him not sticking with the program that him and his handlers agreed to with the team.
I think you're probably spot on.
 
delonte be on his own %@#$ ... thats my man though so ima give him the benefit of the doubt ...
 
Originally Posted by RyGuy45

But if you take in the fact that they have been down this road before with him you would have to assume, a) they have tried getting him help in the past, b) they have put steps in place to help him and the organization, and c) they have a system where he is to either report in or notify them of things, etc.

This latest incident could be more so him not sticking with the program that him and his handlers agreed to with the team.
Yeah, I'm thinking this is it too. Going off his meds? I know quite a few people don't like the meds, but they're obviously needed. Rehab isn't exactly fun either, but it's something you gotta do.
 
They're paying him a salary to get a job done, training camp is part of your job. Personal issues stay personal, this is business. Also doesn't helpthat he just got bagged with 2 handgund and a shotty.

/thread.
 
Originally Posted by Informerx

They're paying him a salary to get a job done, training camp is part of your job. Personal issues stay personal, this is business.

/thread.
Good luck hanging on to your players then...
 
From an insider...


OK, I'll try and take this question on right now. To me, it's the organization ..early on this year ...sending a message to Delonte that things won't be quite like they were last year.

In that I mean, last season we often found ourselves looking the other way. We recognized he was suffering the effects of his disease often times. With that, the inherant ups and down cycles that he deals with.

This year has started out with him admitting to the conscience decision to stop taking his medications as prescribed. The repercussions of which won't be fully known to the public, but many aspects will eventually come to light.

But, although we remain compassionate to his personal struggles ...as an organization dealing with one of 20 players on our roster, have to hold him personally responsible for things that he does, and decisions he makes outside the boundaries set for his teammates.

We're making it clear to him that we fully support him in addressing his health issues head on, but we're making it clear that we're going to hold him accountable for his actions going forward.

We understand that dealing with life issues is especially tough when also dealing with what he's dealing with in regards to his health ...but, we still expect him to handle his responsibilities to the team irregardless.

On a personal note, it's my feeling that it might be in all our best interests to talk to his docters and come to a clear plan of attack as far as giving him some time to take care of himself, and once stabilized have him rejoin the team. Much like last season.


I didn't have a chance to talk to Delonte today ...not in CLE today. But, he participated in practice, but wasn't looking very good. He's weak, and seems very flat emotionally. Very common side effects that come in the beginning stages of a new cycle of meds.

We all have to be cognizant that Delonte didn't participate in training camp last year until four weeks into his med cycle ..so, him trying to get in the flow of camp while going through this is going to be a very hard struggle for him. One that won't be without it's rockiness along the way.



In all, I take away that the team was upset that he got off his cycle of meds, then appears to have tried to get back on them as camp begins. Often when youstart up meds again, you feel HORRIBLE and don't even want to get out of bed or eat.

That's why he probably was MIA. But had he maintained his cycle, this would be a non issue. That's why the team took their stance. It's delicatethough because most bipolar people hate medication and would rather fill the void with alcohol or drugs (which he probably did in the offseason.) But now theseason is here, he can't do that and needs to instead resume medication.


So the team is pretty much feels that they need him to be more responsible in resuming his meds when he knows camp is about to start.
 
i feel sorry for delonte, but it seems that this was all his fault...
 
Originally Posted by outacontrol music

In all, I take away that the team was upset that he got off his cycle of meds, then appears to have tried to get back on them as camp begins. Often when you start up meds again, you feel HORRIBLE and don't even want to get out of bed or eat.

That's why he probably was MIA. But had he maintained his cycle, this would be a non issue. That's why the team took their stance. It's delicate though because most bipolar people hate medication and would rather fill the void with alcohol or drugs (which he probably did in the offseason.) But now the season is here, he can't do that and needs to instead resume medication.


So the team is pretty much feels that they need him to be more responsible in resuming his meds when he knows camp is about to start.
Very true about how lots of bipolar (among other diseases) hate their medication and would rather "deal" with other things like alcoholor drugs. Still, we go with doctor recommendations rather than what the patient feels like. In the end, the organization has to respect all the other playersand take a stand. Getting arrested only makes it easier to make a stand. I'm assuming it's cuz he got off his meds and that's why he was crazyenough to do what he did to get arrested.
 
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