If you had your choice of women, would you..

[bottom74bottom]

A. Take a young chick and mold her
or
B. Take an older chick and let her mold you.




Assume that A is sexier than B for all logical reasons(no pics, it's hypothetical

). Assume that B is established, has a crib, car, and a good grip on life. At 21years old, what would you do?

 

[pr0phecy718]

the hell would I want an older chick to mold me?? I'm 25

  get the hell outta here

i'll take choice A

edit: sorry, I just read that last part assuming that i had to be 21 years old lol

my answer still doesn't change

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Why the hell would I EVER want to let a female mold me? I don't care how old she is and how old I am.

Of course I would take the youngster under my wing and show her the ropes.

 

[ruxxx]

Most definitely A.

 

[bamazing]

Originally Posted by Ruxxx

Most definitely A.

 

[bottom74bottom]

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Why the hell would I EVER want to let a female mold me? I don't care how old she is and how old I am.

Of course I would take the youngster under my wing and show her the ropes.

You never had a mother? I guess you were born from a man like a real man would be huh? Just all man from concetrate and all? Anyway.... "Mold" may be a bad term to use here, but the idea is still the same. I'm asking would you rather be in the driver's seat or be chauffeured, for lack of a more appropriate analogy.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Obviously, I was speaking in terms of personal relationships with women while I am an adult, but since you want to go there. I Would rather be "molded" by a father than a mother. But as a child you don't have much of a choice in that situation. You know how I feel about mothers "molding" their sons and how it affects the lack of manhood in this world. But let me stop showing my obvious insecurities right.

Drivers seat
Chauffeured

Of course I want to be in the driver's seat. You can still learn things from the person in the passenger's side but to be in a submissive position (which I am getting from this) to a female, hell nah. I am not a television father.

 

[bottom74bottom]

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Obviously, I was speaking in terms of personal relationships with women while I am an adult, but since you want to go there. I Would rather be "molded" by a father than a mother. But as a child you don't have much of a choice in that situation.

Drivers seat
Chauffeured

Of course I want to be in the driver's seat. You can still learn things from the person in the passenger's side but to be in a submissive position (which I am getting from this) to a female, hell nah. I am not a television father.

You have the wrong idea, but I'd rather drive as well.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Why is being molded not equal to being in a submissive position? Logically explain that to me.

 

[ghenges]

I would take an older chick and teach her some new tricks

I'd smash the young one too.

 

[pr0phecy718]

Originally Posted by Ghenges

I would take an older chick and teach her some new tricks

I'd smash the young one too.

 

[bottom74bottom]

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Why is being molded not equal to being in a submissive position? Logically explain that to me.

I've never had to submit to learn from a person other than my parents. I logically can't date my mom because she's deceased. All sarcasm aside, because I don't view **@% as a power struggle, I don't feel the need to cast thngs in a master-subject sort of light. It's really quite straight forward.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

You don't have to submit to LEARN from someone but we aren't talking about LEARNING some things. We are talking about learning a LOT of things. Molding. We are talking about a teacher/student branch of a relationship here. That is a form of submission. If someone is constantly teaching you day after day, week after week, month after month, then the receiver of the MOLDING is being submissive.

Teachers mold students
Coaches mold players
Parents mold kids
Masters mold pets

All of those have submissive portions of the equation, why would this one be any different?

You don't have to view it that way but by technicality, it is that way. Might be hard for you want to admit but if you break it down you might be able to see it.

Submission isn't a bad thing maybe that is why you are trying to refute it.

 

[bottom74bottom]

Nah, I just don't SEE it as submission man... my world view ain't that black and white, or masculine and feminine for that matter. Out of all those examples, except master/pet, I don't see  submissive role. Teachers only have "power" over child students. As an adult, everything you do or don't do is up to you and how responsible you are. No one owns you. 

 

[darth dnzy]

--Learning is a constant...
--But with what I know now I'll take A.

 

[frische produkte]

Only 21 and older, let another _ mold her - Hov

 

[bottom74bottom]

Originally Posted by Frische Produkte

21 and older, let another _ mold her

Then there's this... I swear I be saying this ++*% daily knowing full well molding is the "fun" part.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Originally Posted by BOTTOM74BOTTOM

Nah, I just don't SEE it as submission man... my world view ain't that black and white, or masculine and feminine for that matter.

My world isn't black and white, but some scenarios are in fact black and white though. But this isn't even a time to apply the black/white card.

I know you don't SEE it as submission, but that isn't you saying that it isn't going on.

In that situation, I wouldn't look at a female I am molding and say, "I am molding her. She is submitting." But that is what she is doing when she is trusting me to teach her the ropes. I don't think there is really any other way to look at it.

Just because a woman submits to her man doesn't mean she is his slave or he beats or or there is something sick going on there. Some women do it, some don't. Just hard for people to think straight when they hear the word submit while talking about relationships.

But in a mentor/mentee situation (which this is) , the mentee is in a submissive position.

I am done, I won't bother you anymore.

 

[toast1985]

To keep it simple...those are two boundaries I that I think shouldn't be crossed into, too much. Too much of an oedipus complex going on, on one side of the equation...and the same holds true for the other.

I cannot answer the question head on, but I do believe there are lessons to be learned equally, here.

 

[bottom74bottom]

Originally Posted by toast1985

To keep it simple...those are two boundaries I that I think shouldn't be crossed into, too much. Too much of an oedipus complex going on, on one side of the equation...and the same holds true for the other.

I cannot answer the question head on, but I do believe there are lessons to be learned equally, here.

Same here my man... same here..  I think it more so speaks to what type of lesson you WANT to learn because either scenario can be great if played correctly.

 

[toast1985]

Originally Posted by BOTTOM74BOTTOM

Originally Posted by toast1985

To keep it simple...those are two boundaries I that I think shouldn't be crossed into, too much. Too much of an oedipus complex going on, on one side of the equation...and the same holds true for the other.

I cannot answer the question head on, but I do believe there are lessons to be learned equally, here.

Same here my man... same here..  I think it more so speaks to what type of lesson you WANT to learn because either scenario can be great if played correctly.

I couldn't answer that ad well... as the man I am now, can't no one teach me anything, lol...that's just personally, though. When this topic comes to mind...I usually think about older women who says "I can teach him a few things", I've always thought "I would hope not". If a man's perception about himself isn't set by a certain age, he's in trouble in general.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Originally Posted by toast1985

When this topic comes to mind...I usually think about older women who says "I can teach him a few things", I've always thought "I would hope not". If a man's perception about himself isn't set by a certain age, he's in trouble in general.

When I think of that, I think they are referring to sexual performance. I don't think anything is wrong with that. If the woman is older, then she obviously SHOULD have more experience so teaching a younger dude more tricks then that is cool.

But I am not sure the topic was just referring to sexual, not sure if it was even talking about sex at all. I figured it was about philosophy, ideologies, health, street smarts, etc.

But I agree TOast, if a dude doesn't have his own identity by a certain age, he is doomed. But that goes back to my point about SOME boys not growing up with identities because they had to get guidance from so many women and hardly any men. Not their faults though, they can't help it. Then they get into relationships with women as incomplete men which hurts them and the women they deal with.

 

[fade on you]

Interesting....i think i would go with the minority here and select B. A is too much work and frankly im worn out from trying so hard to make relationships work, its too much %#%*#%* work. Let someone do the work instead of me for once. As long as selection B don't run my life & try to make decisions for me we're good. So my answer is B.

 

[essential1]

depends on what I am looking for...

If it was something long term, there has to be molding of both sides. (Not changing the personality and the way a person is but certain habits to better fit your S/O, is what I mean by molding)

but if it is someone to casually date then I take the young chick and mold her and stay the same.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Originally Posted by Fade On You

Interesting....i think i would go with the minority here and select B. A is too much work and frankly im worn out from trying so hard to make relationships work, its too much %#%*#%* work. Let someone do the work instead of me for once. As long as selection B don't run my life & try to make decisions for me we're good. So my answer is B.

And why would you assume being molded takes more work than being the one that molds?

As with any, "I teach you" situation, the minute you veer away from the lesson plan, you will hear it. You will be nagged and asked, "What did I tell you to do when _____." I don't think either situation is any easier than the other. It is all about the other PERSON and how they are.