Im telling yall.....This is just one big game that were playing...Vol. H1N1,West Nile, Mad Cow..etc.

Originally Posted by SuperAntigen

Originally Posted by MikeTysontheKiller

Originally Posted by NuMba1KiCkrocka

What if I know someone that died from H1N1? you still think its a game?
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People die from Flu all the time bruh, what makes this one any different? You good if you have a healthy life style and a good immune system.


What makes this one any different? Hmmmm well for starters it's not your typical flu. Your typical flu is lethal/potentially fatal only if you have an already weak immune system. Swine flu on the other hand, is less indiscriminate when it comes to lethality and fatality--meaning it kills even healthy people.

Here's a post I made a while back concerning the matter at hand:


Originally Posted by SuperAntigen

Originally Posted by awon23


...the swine flu is like the common flu. thousands of people die from the flu every year. same situation with the swine flu...

!%%@ OUTTA HERE

You know what's really funny here--the fact that you actually believe, and think, that you know what you're talking about. I suppose ignorance is INDEED bliss if it affords you an escape from the truth, however unfortunate it may be.

Now lets begin the process of showing you just how wrong you are:

1. [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]"The swine flu is like the common flu...."[/color] Wrong--the "swine flu" is a strain of influenza of [color= rgb(0, 255, 255)]PANDEMIC[/color] proportions. Your "common flu" is often comprised of influenza strain(s) that are, at best, of [color= rgb(255, 0, 255)]EPIDEMIC[/color] proportions. [color= rgb(0, 255, 255)]PANDEMIC[/color] =/= [color= rgb(255, 0, 255)]EPIDEMIC[/color]. Furthermore, unlike your "common" epidemic type strains, pandemic type strains are rare but most importantly, and this is the distinguishing factor, their capacity for virulence is significantly higher than your epidemic type strains--the "common flu", as you put it. These characteristics are the reasons why swine flu, a PANDEMIC influenza strain, is anything but like the "common flu"--an epidemic type strain of influenza.

2. [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]"...thousands of people die from the flu every year. same situation with the swine flu."[/color] Ohhhhh, ok, so let me get this straight, due to the opinion that swine flu is killing thousands of people every year like the "common flu", from your point of view, there's no reason for people to be "more" alert and concerned. If that's really your logic then WOWWW x SMHHHH. I honestly pray that you don't have dependents, either at one end of the age spectrum, or at both, because you're a potential liability to their health...if you're feeding them the products of your faculty, as it pertains to the subject of "swine flu" and the dangers (or lack there off) of it.

As previously alluded to, the point of distinction between the "swine flu" and the "common flu" is the level of virulence, and the subsequent kill rate.
Following a recent World Health Organization (WHO) report that over 1,000 of 1,154 people who have died worldwide from the 2009 H1N1 swine flu pandemic were in the Americas, schools in the US brace themselves for a "nasty" flu season.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/159820.php

This this means, or rather, what this shows, is the fact that ~87% of people who've contracted swine flu, have died. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I am confident that the "common flu" does not have a kill rate (mortality rate) of ~87%. Additionally, realize that health organizations from all across the globe have been communicating with each other, sharing information, and actively making efforts, for months now, in a concerted effort to mitigate the impact of the "swine flu" since its initial detection jump (first human case) in the earlier part of THIS YEAR. Imagine what would happen, the amount of deaths that would stem from "swine flu", if the various health organizations had been lax in their efforts to combat it, and communities all across the world had been kept in the dark about this strain of influenza, or rather, had been informed that "it's just like the common flu...
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" so no worries. Imagine the kill rate then?

3. [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]"whereas hundreds of thousands of people die every year from cancer."[/color] Sure, but just as well, "hundreds of thousands of people die every year" from less-virulent strains of influenza as well--so what are you sayin'. That said, imagine the number that would die if more virulent strains of influenza, like the [color= rgb(0, 255, 255)]PANDEMIC[/color] "swine flu", were allowed to run their course. Oh and just to give you an idea, here's a look at the body counts for the previous known influenza strains that hit pandemic proportions:


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I don't know about you, but--avg. of a few million > avg. of "hundreds of thousands". Well at least, that's what I was taught back in math class during grade school. Now granted, War in conjunction with primitive medicine and a lesser understanding of both viral-host dynamics (as it pertains to influenza) and the recombination of influenza viral strains in pigs and birds, may have increased the #'s a bit in favor of the highlighted strains, the fact still remains--a virulent strain of influenza, which will ALWAYS reach pandemic proportions if left alone, and will always produce a higher mortality rate than cancer, annually.


AND BECAUSE I JUST COULDN'T RESIST...


4. [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]"shut your smartass up"[/color]


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5. I'm not trying to scare anyone with the facts, but just as well, I think it's very irresponsible and damn near dangerous for YOU and others, or for others as a result of what you said, to go around thinking that "swine flu" is like the annual flu or the common cold. Smarten up fam.

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That said, realize that I'm not suggesting that people go on ahead and take the H1N1 vaccine. In my opinion, the closest thing to actually having swine flu is taking the vaccine. All I meant to say in the quoted post was that, it's highly irresponsible and very dangerous for people to go around thinking that the H1N1 strain of influenza is no different than the common and annual ("regular") flu when in fact, the two are very different, and realizing this could be the difference between life and death.



Originally Posted by airblaster503

Man all these new flu strands and everything that comes up every year is the government trying to scare people. I am not saying they don't exist, but the regular flu kills thousands every year. The chances of H1N1 becoming an epidemic to the point it kills more than the regular flu isn't likely. Putting everything out there for people to see is just a way the government controls people by putting fear into them.


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damn son you actually took the time to reply to me with all of that?

i didnt really take the time out to read all of what you said cause i dont really give a damn but the swine flu better kill around a million people for me toeven think your $#%$ is credible and from what im seeing so far there is no way its getting that big.
 
1st anybody buying into this whole "swine flu" crap needs to do just a little research tosee what's really going on.......check for yourself, thePatent BAXTER Corp. for the H1N1 Vacine was filed August 28th 2008......yeh okay


2nd now google Baxter´s present chairman of the Board of directors is General Walter E. Boomer, why is somebody who was a General now president chairman ofthe board of a healcare corp? *$@#!


3rd now go to Yale's own web site and search Vernon R. Loucks Jr thier director of operations! he is a "former fellow" and was part of skull andbones with Bush at Yale........ru kidding me? google his name and see if the first thing that doessnt come up is forbes.com.......it's all about the moneypeople.....wake the hell up
 
Originally Posted by shookONEZ

govt scheming, creating fear in citizens so that they have power to do whatever they damn well please

[Lupe] "Revolutionaries say it's psychological war,Invented by the
press. Just to have something to report" [Lupe]

Fear-mongering is only one step of the process......






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^^^^Right.....they tried to give my daughter that crap at her school and I'll be damned if anyone in my fam's gonna be sum gub-ment guinni(sp)pig...That $#% has not been tested and around long enough.
 
A doctor will never stick a needle in me or my kids. "We have to inject it into you so your body will be able to fight it off later", what kind ofmess is that?
 
the thing that you guys never question is what if you had your logic backwards and that the govt. was releasing the flu to kill those that refused to take theshot.
 
Originally Posted by NuMba1KiCkrocka

the thing that you guys never question is what if you had your logic backwards and that the govt. was releasing the flu to kill those that refused to take the shot.

then id be $$$*%%
 
Originally Posted by NuMba1KiCkrocka

the thing that you guys never question is what if you had your logic backwards and that the govt. was releasing the flu to kill those that refused to take the shot.

No money to be made in that, do you know how much money Baxter Corp made from the H1N1 vaccination?
 
Fear and shock are the most effective methods of opening and preparing the brain for programming.

Thats why its used in military training and why it is being used on you.
 
Maybe i'm in denial because I've taken the vaccine, but some of you are paranoid as %+$#.
Yes, the vaccine has possibly harmful side affects but it also has positive side affects too.

Swine flu is a stronger, more potent and lethal variation of the flu virus and it can kill you in a short amount of time if you get it.
however, if your body is injected with a small amount of the virus, your immune system has a very good chance of not only stopping the pathogen, but alsoremembering how to stop the pathogen if that same pathogen is encountered in the future in a higher dosage, your body will be able to counter it.

And for all you people who are speculating that the gov't is trying to slowly kill of the population over time by giving out new flu shots every year, youare insane.
Flu viruses can evolve very rapidly, and so in the winter/fall when the weather becomes more conducive for the flu virus to spread flu shots are offered everyyear.
 
Yeah since we are not being bombarded with fear of terrorism anymore (or as much) theres gotta be something to take up the slack. Fear is the name of the game,it controls populations quite nicely. This has been going on for thousands of years.
 
Originally Posted by Mastamind89

Is the amount of Thimerosal in the H1N1 vaccine more than other vaccines?


no. It is only in the multidose vials. If you're that concerned about it, which you really shouldn't be, the single dose vials don't contain it andneither does the mist (but i'd recommend the single dose shot over the mist). I'm sure if you call around you can find it. The level of scientificknowledge displayed in the thread is, as Dirty stated, pathetic. Some people know (or think they know) just enough to be dangerous.
 
we all know all those people that are high up in the govt like rumsfeld got stakes in the med companies that make the vaccine.

big companies = our govt
 
Originally Posted by HueyP in LouieV

Fear and shock are the most effective methods of opening and preparing the brain for programming.

Thats why its used in military training and why it is being used on you.
Stupidity works very well too, and it's much more widespread.
 
The H1N1 virus was fabricated & they earn money by providing an "antidote".
 
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