Intervention?

[chokeonsmoke]

it might sound cheesy too but your homie has to go tru hell to get to heaven and that applys to everything i believe in god and he or her might just be testinghim?

 

[chokeonsmoke]

your rite boomattic since i dont toke no more hehe

 

[kevin2nd]

i'm not interested in sifting through the bullcrap in the thread. i've worked as a substance abuse therapist for the past 12 years. hit me up via pmand i'll do my best to answer.

 

[luckyp90]

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

People can detoxify their body of a physically addicting drug...but the mental aspect of addiction is easily the harder aspect to get over.

you're just wholly ignorant of the psychology of addition if you think it boils down to something as simple as no self control.

How is he ignorant, You guys are describing marijuana addiction as basically just a routine people get used too. Like a hobby/shopping.

Lack of self control seems like the answer in that type of addiction.

 

[joe billionaire]

Originally Posted by wildout4

u are never too high to *@@% urself. he has to be on something else too.

exactly!

 

[henz0]

No way he pissed & +##+#!$ on himself from weed

 

[streetzdream]

I've Got Up Enough Where I Could $#@ My Pants On Purpose And Laugh About It, But Never Up Enough To Uncontrollably $#@ My Self And Not Be Able To RectifyThe Situation. I'm A Daily Head Myself Too, No Job For The Last 5 Years Just Get Up Everyday And Chill.

 

[lazianboi]

Uhhh ^--- Why Are U Captalizing Every Word? Lol

 

[jibbycanoe]

wow. I never thought weed would do that to someone. your support is what he needs and you are a good man for being there for him. but he has to want to do ithimself. I wish you and him the best of luck

 

[dirtylicious]

Originally Posted by MarleysProtege

now if this was cocaine or heroin etc... etc... then things would be different ... but if its only weed then this mental "addiction" is simply a matter of him making hi smind up to stop/someone cutting off his source

as mentioned before....you don't get physically addicted to cocaine...like you do with heroin(opiates)... but you obviously can see the effectof psychological addiction when it comes to cocaine.
it's the same principle here

 

[yungmatt]

Yall still debating?

Once again, this dude cant only be smoking weed.

 

[kinglouisxiv]

Dirtylicious - Why are you so quick to assume the position of Minister of Misinformation regarding drug use? You must realize your high visibility lendscredence to your statements, regardless of how uninformed they may be.

To suggest cocaine is not physically addictive is reckless, and to compare it with marijuana belies your ignorance. It would be wise to speak on such topicswith at least a modicum of first-hand experience, as opposed to the "facts" a brief Google search will produce.

The human body does indeed develop chemical dependency to cocaine, rather quickly at that, and is exhibited by intense cravings for repeated use and severewithdrawal symptoms.

On the other hand, the human body does not form a dependent relationship with THC, and, as many here have testified, regular marijuana consumption does notinduce physical addiction. While you so often trot out the very limited instance of psychological dependency on the marijuana high, to suggest this is the normfor the majority of users is simply not true.

 

[whph10]

This can't be from weed.

EDIT: ^ King Louis at it again

 

[ghenges]

The gloves have come off!


::grabs Chex Mix:::

 

[dirtylicious]

there is no physiological dependence on cocaine....the body does develop a tolerance....but not a dependence, unlike opiate addiction
as for me not knowing first hand...again...don't assume.

and as far as touting the psychological dependence of marijuana use... it exists...limited or not...as evidenced by the OP's thread.
so really...don't confuse my words on MJ addiction with casual use...

and to be honest...I don't care about people's casual use... it's when people put other lives in danger by smoking and driving(just like drinkingand driving)... that's when I have a problem.

but hell.. advocate all the drug use you want to... just not on this board.

 

[kevin2nd]

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

there is no physiological dependence on cocaine.

WRONG.
WRONG.
WRONG.

physiological dependence is defined in the dsm-iv by meeting either the criteria for tolerance or the presence of withdrawal syndrome - both of which areprevalent in the cocaine-addicted persons that present for treatment at our center.

 

[marleysprotege]

so kev, can the same be said for marijuana?

 

[starbury03]

1st of all. Slap this fool.

2nd of all. Slap him again for making responsible marijuana users look bad.

3rd of all. Kick him in the stomach until he pleads and begs for you to stop and promisese he will stop smoking..because that is the most ridiculous thing hecould be doing with his life right now. What kinda grown %%@ man has a weed addiction like that? SMH.

Like, really? REALLY??? This can't be real.

 

[i love nikes]

ahhhh weed is #*%!%#! GREAT!!

[color= rgb(0, 51, 255)]And to people saying cocaine is NOT additive, wow[/color].

http://www.brown.edu/Stud...ation/atod/od_cocaine.htm
http://www.hittrafficer.com/2009/02/04/71773

 

[marleysprotege]

ima go blaze one with my folks after work and pose this scenario and get their perspective ... ill let yall know

 

[kinglouisxiv]

there is no physiological dependence on cocaine
Would it not be wise to think carefully and research thoroughly before making such a statement? I don't know what literature you'regetting your information from, but here is a scientific, peer-reviewed study assessing risk for physical dependence in the community of cocaine users in theUnited States - http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v30/n5/full/1300681a.htmlhttp://www.nature.com/npp...v30/n5/full/1300681a.html. I'm sure you'll find theirconclusions contrary to your own.

Please educate yourself before misleading the impressionable youth of NikeTalk.

 

[kevin2nd]

Originally Posted by MarleysProtege

so kev, can the same be said for marijuana?

according to the dsm-iv, yes. there can be physiological dependence but it's based solely on tolerance because the dsm-iv does not recognize withdrawalsyndrome for cannabis. most of the heavy weed smokers i know complain about bad headaches when they stop. i'm wondering if there will be a change in thefuture editions of the dsm-iv as weed gets more potent.

 

[marleysprotege]

Originally Posted by kevin2nd

according to the dsm-iv, yes. there can be physiological dependence but it's based solely on tolerance because the dsm-iv does not recognize withdrawal syndrome for cannabis. most of the heavy weed smokers i know complain about bad headaches when they stop. i'm wondering if there will be a change in the future editions of the dsm-iv as weed gets more potent.

thats what i was getting at with all my posts ... i dont see how someone can be "addicted" to something where if/when they stop, they dont reallyhave any major side effects ...

 

[militaryiv]

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

but hell.. advocate all the drug use you want to... just not on this board.

there are some people that are being serioius here. why dont you, the admin, edit the "advocating" replies and issue warnings?

 

[10sakuragi]

Originally Posted by StangzNkickz50

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

He's got no self control

I always laugh when I see people use this..
well duh.
he's an ADDICT.


just like any drug.. there are people who are more prone to addiction than others.

lol what? So, I smoke weed; I must be an addict because I have no self control???
I smoke weed just about everyday. I work 40 hours a week and attain a 3.6 GPA while taking 5 classes a semester majoring in Criminal Justice..... I guess I've got pretty good self control to be able to keep my priorities in check while still smoking a natural herb that supposedly is "addictive".
Marijuana is not a drug one becomes addicted to. Their is nothing in marijuana that causes addiction to it.

You could say that you're mentally addicted to it because you have found yourself in the same routines because of it. aka: NO SELF CONTROL.

word. i smoke weed but not that often and i still get Baverage and living good with my friends who also do it with me and we stay track at school the only thing that messes ppl up is when they party with other kidsthat do other drugs and they get peer pressured to do it too and next thing you know is you get addicted to it, soo what im saying is you can smoke weed buthave control and dont do any other drugs!! its a fact that weed is not dangerous as cigarettes.!! " Cocaine is a hell of a drug" - Rick James