Is Dez Bryant really overrated?

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Damn the numbers.

Dez has not made the jump that I expected from him as a player. I'm sure there are a myriad of reasons for that.

Why was the hype on Dez too strong coming out of college? What was unfounded about it?

 

[deuce king]

The receiver position is such a hard position to evaluate because it TRULY depends on the success rate or the strength of another position, that being quarterback.  A reciever can be the best route runner, best hands, best blocker and everything else in between but if his quarterback is lackluster or doesn't perform well with all those attributes in judging a receiver it means nothing, and vice versa in regards to being able to judge a quarterback. 

That being said, I dont' think Romo trusts Bryant well enough or like he should.  From the outside looking in, it looks like Romo and Bryant just aren't on the same page at times, whether that be Romo's fault or Bryant's fault, either way both of them need to or should be able to get it together.  I don't see Romo taking enough shots to Dez, like I see Rodgers taking shots to Jennigs or Stafford to Johnson, or Matt Ryan to White or Jones. 

Overall, I wouldn't say Dez Bryant is overrated, I think Dez needs to some how pick his production and maturity level up in a major way this hear however.  As usual, when it comes to the Cowboys or Cowboys fans alot of things get blown up or blown out of proportion somehow someway.  Folks that say Dez is overrated probably have somesort of bias against the Cowboys or their fans.

 

[airjordan jb23]

He's not a bust or overrated, but he can be better than what he's showing. The potential & talent is all there to be better, but even saying all this, as of now he's still putting up good numbers.

The thing is, he's still young, he's still putting up good stats up until this point in his career, & even with this season & the team being all over the place, he's still putting up good numbers. So while he's not dominating, he's still being productive.

As of now he's a good reciever with the talent to be even better... We'll see what he can do with that

 

[Hahahaha]

I think he's one of the most talented but struggling.


I think he's IMMATURE as can be but also needs to get out of Dallas. I think it's a bad fit for him.

 

[buc em]

He's been a bit of a dissapointment but his pure talent and athleticism is as high if not higher than any receiver in the league. If he could get around the right people and really become a student of the game then Dez can be unstoppable. I just have a lot of doubt he'll ever do that. I pray he does though because I love watching him play when he's really on his game.

 

[Peep Game]

i always back up what i post and when im wrong i admit it, or if we cant agree ill admit or give credit where its due.

So where were all the analysts and people claiming the Texans would go 10-6 or 9-7? I've yet to see it, and as far as i know that's not backing it up.
But, I feel like you're gonna Mitt Romney me and continue to say you always back your stuff up.

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Nobody was saying all that (definitely not the consensus), just stop.

classic "I have no answer, I can't comprehend, I don't want to listen" response. What a joke.

 

[ag 47]

I really would like to know where was he hyped?

NT. ESPN.

"He’s not living up to the expectations that were placed on him by wearing that number,” Pearson recently told the Midland Reporter-Telegram. “Drew Pearson took it to the Ring of Honor level and Michael Irvin took it way beyond that to the Hall of Fame level.

“When Michael and I had a chance to talk to Dez when he came in his rookie year we told him, ‘Don’t do what Drew Pearson did in it. Don’t do what Michael did in it. Do more than that.’ I know that’s a lot to live up to, but what else is there? You live up to those expectations and people will cherish you for the rest of your life.”

“You should know your plays. You should know where to be. You should know your adjustments that you need to make,” Pearson said. “You know what your value is to this Cowboys offense. You should be making the big plays to help the offense when they need it. To me, that’s what the 88s are all about. That’s what I did in the 88s, that’s what Michael (Irvin) did in the 88s. I’m not saying Dez needs to be us. But we’d just like to see him carry that tradition on with the 88s a little better.”

After practice, Wade Phillips was asked about Bryant's weekend and the Cowboys coach heaped praise on the rookie wide out.
"Dez Bryant is an absolute talent," Phillips said. "You don't see that many come in and look that good that early. In 33 years, there's not very many that I can say look that talented at their position for a three-day period."
Ray Sherman spoke glowingly about Bryant, comparing him athletically to some of the best receivers he's coached, like Jerry Rice, Cris Carter, Randy Moss and John Taylor. And that came only an hour or so after the Cowboys selected Bryant.

There's no doubt he was hyped and so far he's been disappointing in his 3rd year. His conditioning, route running, and focus have all been questioned at times. He is young and maybe he can be what everyone in Dallas is hoping he would become, but he's far from it right now.

 

[jjs07]

The hype was strong surrounding Dez from the jump. It's only now that people see that he's been somewhat of a disappointment that we now want to rationalize and convince ourselves that he's not been as bad as folks may think.

Whatever floats your boat tho

He's a mess...both on and off the field. And yes, numbers are one thing - but he's not been the game changing WR that people thought he'd be when he came out of OKSt. I mean, dude was supposed to take the NFL by storm and make all those teams who passed on him (like Randy Moss) sorry.

Welp....

 

[va757va]

The hype was strong surrounding Dez from the jump. It's only now that people see that he's been somewhat of a disappointment that we now want to rationalize and convince ourselves that he's not been as bad as folks may think.

Whatever floats your boat tho

He's a mess...both on and off the field. And yes, numbers are one thing - but he's not been the game changing WR that people thought he'd be when he came out of OKSt. I mean, dude was supposed to take the NFL by storm and make all those teams who passed on him (like Randy Moss) sorry.
Welp....

if were going by who had the most hype out of college, and who was supposed to take the league by storm then this man >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dez 

just as big a headache off the field...EVEN BIGGER EXPECTATIONS!!! lesser stats...

only diff is, he doesnt have a star on his helmet...period...

dude was the second coming, and when the raiders screwed him, he sulked and refused to play...but nobody says he's immature,nobody says hes a bust, probably gonna blame it all on alex smith, or theyre a running game...who cares..dude was drafted top 10 to be that 'GAME CHANGING RECIEVER' ..he wasnt/isnt..

in 50 career games mike has FOUR(4) `100 YARD GAMES...Since that the go to stat for describing dez's underachievement's figured ill throw that in there...

now, i like crabtree as a person,and especially a football player...but i use him as an example because hes acheived less with even bigger expectations but no one mentions him as a bust...

idc your opinion of dez, BUT CAN WE ALL AT LEAST ADMIT THAT THE PLAYING FIELD ISNT EVEN???  BEING A COWBOY GETS YOU PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT...FOR BETTER OR WORSE...

 

[jjs07]

if were going by who had the most hype out of college, and who was supposed to take the league by storm then this man >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dez 




just as big a headache off the field...EVEN BIGGER EXPECTATIONS!!! lesser stats...



only diff is, he doesnt have a star on his helmet...period...

dude was the second coming, and when the raiders screwed him, he sulked and refused to play...but nobody says he's immature,nobody says hes a bust, probably gonna blame it all on alex smith, or theyre a running game...who cares..dude was drafted top 10 to be that 'GAME CHANGING RECIEVER' ..he wasnt/isnt..

in 50 career games mike has FOUR(4) `100 YARD GAMES...Since that the go to stat for describing dez's underachievement's figured ill throw that in there...


now, i like crabtree as a person,and especially a football player...but i use him as an example because hes acheived less with even bigger expectations but no one mentions him as a bust...





idc your opinion of dez, BUT CAN WE ALL AT LEAST ADMIT THAT THE PLAYING FIELD ISNT EVEN???  BEING A COWBOY GETS YOU PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT...FOR BETTER OR WORSE...

I completely disagree.

Crabtree had ridiculous #'s in college. Partially b/c of that Leach offense he was in a TTU. That being said he wasn't nearly the athlete that Dez is and even though he didn't workout at the combine, there were a lot of questions surrounding his transition to the NFL.

Dez - headcase with ridiculous physical ability

Crabtree - headcase with "meh" physical ability (in comparison)

 

[ag 47]

dude was the second coming, and when the raiders screwed him, he sulked and refused to play...but nobody says he's immature,nobody says hes a bust, probably gonna blame it all on alex smith, or theyre a running game...who cares..dude was drafted top 10 to be that 'GAME CHANGING RECIEVER' ..he wasnt/isnt..

False. People definitely were calling for Crabtree's head after his first two seasons. Every day after the draft, Crabtree has been a fraud. Billed at being a big, game-changing receiver (pre-drafts reports had him listed at 6'4" lol) with speed (4.6?). I remember distinctly members on this forum saying he'd be out of the league in 5 years. And then you factor in the diva attitude, lack of durability, and there's no question that Crabtree has been an epic disappointment. As a Raider fan, I've paid special attention to how Mike has developed (or lack thereof) because our guy, DHB, has had a better career so far given all the criticism.

 

[mez 0ne]

Just because someone is over-rated doesn't mean they are not talented.

Not a great player, a good WR with potential to be great but mentally doesn't seem to want it yet

Bad routes doesn't help either, extremely inconsistent.

 

[gmsboy1]

i always back up what i post and when im wrong i admit it, or if we cant agree ill admit or give credit where its due.

So where were all the analysts and people claiming the Texans would go 10-6 or 9-7? I've yet to see it, and as far as i know that's not backing it up.
But, I feel like you're gonna Mitt Romney me and continue to say you always back your stuff up.

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Nobody was saying all that (definitely not the consensus), just stop.

classic "I have no answer, I can't comprehend, I don't want to listen" response. What a joke.

My answer was in the first block, [where are all these analysts and pundits who said ya'll would lose all these games?]
Every time I ask I don't get a response which is ironic considering you (especially) and MMG post***** all day. But i'm the joke.

I can stand by my assertion that no one had the Texans out of there top 5 at worst and can pull up multiple sources if you'd like.
Why no reciprocation?

 

[va757va]

from the draft guru's mouth himself...

Kiper pick: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech  -- The stress fracture in his left foot shouldn't affect his draft status. He's a big-time player who should have aLarry Fitzgerald-type career in the NFL.

Kiper had him going 6th on his big board...at dez's highest point he was 9th...

were not comparing athletic abilities, they both were in spread offenses in colleges so that fact doesnt matter...

Crabtree was the much more hyped reciever...PERIOD..

had dallas not traded up, and denver, or baltimore, or new england got dez you wouldnt of heard his name again...but since dallas got him, things are blown out of proportion..lol

even a casual football fan can agree that crabtrees hype coming out of college >>>>>> insert reciever here

 

[jjs07]

from the draft guru's mouth himself...

Kiper pick: Michael Crabtree
, WR, Texas Tech
 -- The stress fracture in his left foot shouldn't affect his draft status. He's a big-time player who should have a
Larry Fitzgerald
-type career in the NFL.



Kiper had him going 6th on his big board...at dez's highest point he was 9th...




were not comparing athletic abilities, they both were in spread offenses in colleges so that fact doesnt matter...

Crabtree was the much more hyped reciever...PERIOD..


had dallas not traded up, and denver, or baltimore, or new england got dez you wouldnt of heard his name again...but since dallas got him, things are blown out of proportion..lol


even a casual football fan can agree that crabtrees hype coming out of college >>>>>> insert reciever here

Why don't you look up what Mel Kiper said about Jamarcus Russell?

Crabtree was in no way, shape, or form more hyped than Dez. As a matter of fact, there were more questions about Crabtree's transition to the pros as a player than DB. Way more questions.

 

[va757va]

ill call a spade a spade...

but crabtree was so sure of his status, so sure that he was the best receiver that when another receiver went before him, he refused to play unless he made more than him...

he wouldnt take #10 picks money because he felt HE DESERVED to be paid as the top wideout...

he had those thoughts in his head for a reason...

because every talking head, every todd mcshay and mike mayock had him being the next big thing...

dez was a year removed from football and people were wondering if he would go first round...which he barely did..

the hype isnt close..

but ill call this one a wash, so we wont be bantering in circles ala any silly putty post...

 

[champcruthik]

Yes, because the potential and hype surrounding Dez hasn't quite matched his production on the field. Part of the problem is football fans have a huge ceiling for Bryant, which is a good thing, but bad when he doesn't fulfill it. The immaturity and overspending off the field doesn't help his cause as a fan favorite in Dallas. I would like to see 1,150-1,200 receiving yards and 8-9 TDs for Dezzy regularly. The talent is there for those type of numbers.

 

[ag 47]

Kiper had him going 6th on his big board...at dez's highest point he was 9th...

Because their draft classes have nothing to do with that? How many games did Dez play in his last year at Oklahoma St.? I'll wait.

And the most important question is, who gives a **** what Crabtree's turnout has been? The conversation is not about that bum. I understand you're a Cowboys fan, but that doesn't allow you to deflect the criticism to save Dez. The bottom line is he's no who we thought he was...not yet and he's getting called out for it. Cowboy or not.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Crabtree & Bryant played in two totally different offenses in college

 

[pharelfor3]

seriously, I forgot about Crabtree. Now that's a bust.

 

[champcruthik]

seriously, I forgot about Crabtree. Now that's a bust.

Crabby's showing out this year with a better version of Alex Smith though.

 

[mmg]

at Crabby having more 100 yards games with Alex smith chucking him the ball.

 

[mmg]

Crabtree & Bryant played in two totally different offenses in college

crabs played in a air it out offense correct ? Pardon my ignorance cause I don't follow CFB.

 

[champcruthik]

at Crabby having more 100 yards games with Alex smith chucking him the ball.

Sick avy, bro.

I'll admit, Alex Smith looks A LOT better this season. Can't even knock the guy. SF looks primed to represent the NFC in the SB.

 

[ag 47]

crabs played in a air it out offense correct ? Pardon my ignorance cause I don't follow CFB.

Yeah buddy....to call it the spread offense is like saying water is wet. I don't even think they had RB's on the team.