Is it Mother's Day for those who've miscarried, tried desperately to conceive, or had stillbirths?

[balloonoboy]

I'm not sure what impetus led towards me thinking this, but I want to know what some of you think.

There are countless women who have had to face the horror of knowing that they are unable to conceive, either because of something wrong with their own physiology or that of their mates. Then there are those women who are able to conceive, but are unable to carry them to full term. Is this day for them as well? Do we consider them 'mothers'?

Suffice it to say that there are many unfit mothers, who know they are unfit and better off not even being labeled mothers, yet continue to bask in the recognition of their motherhood every time this day comes around. What's sad is that their children know there mother's are unfit just as well.

So is it right to label those women, who want so much to enter into motherhood and almost taste it until their problems rears it's ugly head, mothers, or would it just add to the self-ridicule they already feel because of their own insufficiency?

I don't think it would hurt to recognize these women. As it may be just the needed impetus to keep fighting or choose an alternate route like adoption.

 

[the north west]

no

 

[kim1]

In the end they're still not mothers so no.

 

[ljlukelj]

Originally Posted by Kim1

In the end they're still not mothers so no.

 

[mytmouse76]

you don't have to give birth to be a mother...anyone with a decent extended family could tell you that...

aunts, sisters, cousins, hell even a few dads who are doing it on their own...

 

[moneymike88]

Originally Posted by mytmouse76

you don't have to give birth to be a mother...anyone with a decent extended family could tell you that...

aunts, sisters, cousins, hell even a few dads who are doing it on their own...

i get this...my mothers aunt raised her but never had any kids of her own...before she passed away i told her happy mothers day every year

 

[DCAllAfrican]

MightyMouse, why would you include dads in the equation?

I can agree that you don't have to give birth to be a mother figure, but why would you add fathers there is beyond me man. LOL. Understand what you are trying to do but there is a such thing as fathers day.

 

[mytmouse76]

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

MightyMouse, why would you include dads in the equation?

I can agree that you don't have to give birth to be a mother figure, but why would you add fathers there is beyond me man. LOL. Understand what you are trying to do but there is a such thing as fathers day.

there is but single mothers are still recognized on fathers day so why can't single dads be recognized on mothers day?
  

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Single mothers shouldn't be recognized as fathers. I seriously hate when people do that. HATE it. Neither should be done man. A woman can't be a father. A Man can't be a mother. So why acknowledge either on the opposite sexed day? People need to stop

 

[mytmouse76]

well there you have it folks...DC doesn't think mothers should be recognized on Fathers Day or vice versa

THE END

 

[mytmouse76]

well there you have it folks...DC doesn't think mothers should be recognized on Fathers Day or vice versa

THE END

 

[shaunhillftw49]

Clearly he's never seen Mr. Mom

 

[georgehimself]

If they had a positive impact and are older than me, I say happy mother's day for being like a mother to me.

 

[potus2028]

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Single mothers shouldn't be recognized as fathers. I seriously hate when people do that. HATE it. Neither should be done man. A woman can't be a father. A Man can't be a mother. So why acknowledge either on the opposite sexed day? People need to stop

I look at it as more of a tongue-in-cheek kind of thing that arose out of the nontraditional circumstances of some homes than a literal interpretation...it's a fact, some folk do perform the jobs of both (as best they can), so why not give them both, %$%* it...I don't really have a problem with it...

 

[ripyzyz]

hell no

 

[hella handsome]

DC's word has been spoken.

/thread

 

[bottom74bottom]

I sorta SERIOUSLY hate when people feel the need to define holidays for other people. If EYE wanna celebrate mother's day with my father, $@%+ it that's what I'm doing. It's just a day. It's what YOU make it. YOU define it. Buy YOU can't define it for ME or anyone else man..For the record, that's exactly what the %%%@ I'm doing. I shoulda bought a mother's day card and sharpie'd out the mother and wrote FATHER in big arrogant letters. My mo m would live laughing if I did that

. 

 

[ayvee323]

^Co-sign

I agree with a lot that you say DC but sometimes I think your beliefs are a little too....traditional.

Every situation is different, so in my opinion you CAN'T say that a woman CAN'T be a father.

 

[ayvee323]

double

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Again, I understand wanting to appreciate those who have done you well, but there are certain times of the year where there has been a universal day of appreciation for specific groups. Mothers Day is for mothers. Fathers day is for fathers.

Just because a mother is a single parent doesn't mean she is also playing the role of father. A woman can't play that role.
Just because a father is a single parent doesn't mean he is also playing the role of mother. A man can't play that role.

A complete family is mother and father. Just never agreed with the idea of, "He/she was my mother and father."

I don't think this belief is that off the wall.

 

[bottom74bottom]

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Again, I understand wanting to appreciate those who have done you well, but there are certain times of the year where there has been a universal day of appreciation for specific groups. Mothers Day is for mothers. Fathers day is for fathers.

Just because a mother is a single parent doesn't mean she is also playing the role of father. A woman can't play that role.
Just because a father is a single parent doesn't mean he is also playing the role of mother. A man can't play that role.

A complete family is mother and father. Just never agreed with the idea of, "He/she was my mother and father."

I don't think this belief is that off the wall.

You're rubbing me the wrong way... and ain't %$#% gay intended. I'm getting agitated...

 

[DCAllAfrican]

God gave you feelings to use them in any way you chose. Feel free to become agitated by me if you feel the need. I have no issue with you. It is a beautiful day outside, great NBA Basketball on, and plenty of good food around us. Feel free to use your energy to become agitated by a few keystrokes from a stranger.

 

[bottom74bottom]

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

God gave you feelings to use them in any way you chose. Feel free to become agitated by me if you feel the need. I have no issue with you. It is a beautiful day outside, great NBA Basketball on, and plenty of good food around us. Feel free to use your energy to become agitated by a few keystrokes from a stranger.

You try so hard sometimes. As an NTer, I like you. You're informed and outspoken. But occasionally you try too hard to stand for ideals just for the sake of standing for them when there's really no purpose in defending emotionless, impractical concepts. You'd make a real good defense attorney for the mob. You have an uncanny ability to find an angle in an otherwise unarguable circumstance. But stop; just for today. Start again tomorrow if you must.

 

[cocolicious]

If those women want to consider it mothers day for them, then why not?

 

[nycknicks105]

Originally Posted by Kim1

In the end they're still not mothers so no.

Sad, but true.