Is Lebron on Roids?

[Mr.Guy]

Quick poll

 

[macbk]

3+ pages.

 

[shogun]

Probably.

 

[Lovetohate3000]

yes and it shouldnt matter. dont even care if athletes use enhancers.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Anabolic steroids? nah.

other stuff that could enhance your performance? maybe. but unlikely.

 

[RyGuy45]

Agree with Osh above.

 

[Fozz]

I don't think he's on steroids. But probably has legal supplements.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

also Bron is not really defying the aging curb athletically...he is clearly slower, and doesn't jump as high...so I don't understand why some are so sure he's using steroids.

 

[gunna get it]

Legal supplements?


Bro-Science everywhere

 

[Maximus Meridius]

also Bron is not really defying the aging curb athletically...he is clearly slower, and doesn't jump as high...so I don't understand why some are so sure he's using steroids.

I don't know about clearly.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I don't know about clearly.

imo I think you need to refresh your memory.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

His head was just on the rim at the all star game.

When I think of somebody clearly slowing down I think of how Kobe's game became more grounded at into his 30's. Lebron is still jumping out the gym and blowing past 20 something year olds.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

His head was just on the rim at the all star game.

When I think of somebody clearly slowing down I think of how Kobe's game became more grounded at into his 30's. Lebron is still jumping out the gym and blowing past 20 something year olds.

take what ever you think you saw and add like 30% more to it. 23-25 year old Lebron was something else. Lebron not doing that anymore.


He's not blowing bast 20 year olds. he's relying way more on touch and feel and physical strength. he's not jumping over as much as going through.

if he was blwoing past dudes at the same rate, his FTA wouldn't be going down.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Nah, we gon have to agree to disagree. I been watching him since his HS days and he's still a freak athlete and blowing past dudes. Maybe he's lost a small drop but it ain't clearly.

 

[Mr.Guy]

He def has lost a step or two. Not as fast and doesn’t jump as high. His head was at the rim once during the all star game. He did that almost every night when he was younger.

 

[gunna get it]

Anabolic steroids? nah.

other stuff that could enhance your performance? maybe. but unlikely.

Dismissing steroids usage by any athlete is absurd.
Especially from people who believe steroids don’t benefit basketball players ...

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Dismissing steroids usage by any athlete is absurd.
Especially from people who believe steroids don’t benefit basketball players ...

Lebrons not out here lookin like Karl Malone who imo was def on that gas. he's grown pretty steadily over time.

it just seems like a giant unecessary risk for not enough gain given the increased risk of tendon damage than comes with anabolic steroids.

 

[paulminus]

His head was just on the rim at the all star game.

 

[ForNarnia]

Still out running guys 10 years younger than him. He’s not at his peak like he was during his Miami years but he’s still a athletic freak on the court.

This is just your monthly NT LeBron slander thread

 

[gunna get it]

Lebrons not out here lookin like Karl Malone who imo was def on that gas. he's grown pretty steadily over time.

it just seems like a giant unecessary risk for not enough gain given the increased risk of tendon damage than comes with anabolic steroids.

Risk? Do you know much about steroids?
Maybe you’re thinking about ABUSING steroids without proper guidance and science. People take steroids properly and prosper physically. Used properly, usage actually lengthens careers.
And being “jacked” isn’t the end all be all for steroid users.
Hugh jumpers, long jumpers, sprinters, cyclists aren’t jacked but are common users.
The end look is the result of how a user trains. If the user is about moderate weights, isometric movements, running and jumping they will keep an aesthetic streamlined look.
The ability to “spot” a steroid user is the biggest misconception in sports.

 

[Mr.Guy]

Risk? Do you know much about steroids?
Maybe you’re thinking about ABUSING steroids without proper guidance and science. People take steroids properly and prosper physically. Used properly, usage actually lengthens careers.
And being “jacked” isn’t the end all be all for steroid users.
Hugh jumpers, long jumpers, sprinters, cyclists aren’t jacked but are common users.
The end look is the result of how a user trains. If the user is about moderate weights, isometric movements, running and jumping they will keep an aesthetic streamlined look.
The ability to “spot” a steroid user is the biggest misconception in sports.

Where did you go to med school?

 

[gunna get it]

I stayed at a Holiday Inn.

Do I need to be a doctor to have done research ?
Do I need to be a doctor to have actually dealt with plenty of people who use or have used?

 

[SORIANOTRON]

I def wouldn't be surprised, people hear the term "roids" and they think about muscle growth/body building

alot of substances and most that professional athletes take help/aid RECOVERY

basketball probably one of the more grueling sports in terms of schedule and wear and tear on the body, so im sure ALOT of guys use stuff for quicker recovery...especially dudes over 30.

but like someone said above, I dont even care....if it makes for better performances and an entertainment product im all for it

I damn sho aint throwin stonez

 

[gentrification]

I don't know

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Risk? Do you know much about steroids?
Maybe you’re thinking about ABUSING steroids without proper guidance and science. People take steroids properly and prosper physically. Used properly, usage actually lengthens careers.
And being “jacked” isn’t the end all be all for steroid users.
Hugh jumpers, long jumpers, sprinters, cyclists aren’t jacked but are common users.
The end look is the result of how a user trains. If the user is about moderate weights, isometric movements, running and jumping they will keep an aesthetic streamlined look.
The ability to “spot” a steroid user is the biggest misconception in sports.

I understand all that, i've done some research on the topic before, I know some people who have used in the past, my friends brother was a serious strongman competitor.


As I understand it, and the research on this is clear, that regardless if you are a serious abuser or a moderate user, you run the risk of tendon damage.


source:

Anabolic steroid use paralleled with exercise may lead to dysplasia of collagen fibrils, which can decrease the tensile strength of tendon.
Med Sci Sports Exerc. 1991 Jan;23(1):1-3.

and for a sport like basketball where you play 82 games, and durability is one of the biggest concerns, I think it makes doing anabolic steroids specifically a different risk calculation than doing it for Track and Feild, Football ect. it's not that it won't help, its just are the risks worth the potential draw backs in a non timed, heavily skill based sport, that you gotta play 82 games?



Bottom line for me. Lebron James was one of the famous athletes in America by the time he was 16, he was sitting on a potential billion dollar brand, he was already on of the best pure athletes in the NBA as like an 18 year old.

How much faster, explosive would steroids have to make you to make it worth the risk of your tendons AND the risk of getting caught and having that destroy the value of your brand?

5%?

10%?

20%?


I'm sorry, it's not worth it, if Lebron did use anabolic steroids, I would classify him as a supreme idiot, and he does not strike me as an idiot.