outrageous claims with nothing to back up huh? is this what NT is coming to?
See post at top of page....
Just a random criticism and it's about something that can get better over time.
B) Not enough material to be heralded as the saviour of hip hop(which is a stupid term anyway)
Who's calling him the savior of anything? Must be a stan or someone way too geeked about his music. As for material, he's still a new artist. Not to mention he's doing this !*%* at his own pace.
C) He's cool and all, but I think he tries to hard to get that "Conscious" angle going
Explain how he tries to hard. Is this just some feeling that's come to you that can't be supported by anything?
D) He hasn't really done anything, apperantly(according to blogs and such) his best song is Exhibit C....nah son not good enough
This point irrelevant. It's completely based on that ppl have rated him highly somewhere. Outside of artists who've heard his music or worked with him it just seems this expectancy for him to "do" something is based on you reacting to all the acclaim he gets on the internet. Exhibit C aint his best song but it is a recent great one from him since he hasn't dropped anything in a min. You should check his material and decide for yourself.
E) Overrated =/= not good as it would suggest, he's good no doubt, andthe fact that he has the co-sign from some great MC's is a def plus,but that doesn't mean he's the champion on the mic.
You say "as it suggest" is that "it" Jay Elec's claims that's he the best or "champion on the mic" cuz last I checked every rapper from time to time mentions that they're the best on the mic. We got rappers constantly reasserting that claim their whole career and you happen to disagree with Jay so now he isn't as good as he says he is?That aint no damn point. Just another opinion and you entitled to that but it aint enough to justify him being "overrated"
Definitely never got that vibe. That fits Lupe.
someone post the pic of the doghouse with the drake thread on it
I feel the same way. He got some street n_ in him, which makes his intellectual side that much more intriguing.
Lupe is a hipster turned rapper IMO...but I'd call elect the hood/geek type dude...one of the older dudes in the hood that collects dragon ball z videos, and inteligent, but still knows that because it's hard for him to find a job he'll grind for his
Who's calling him the savior of anything? Must be a stan or someone way too geeked about his music. As for material, he's still a new artist. Not to mention he's doing this !*%* at his own pace.
C) He's cool and all, but I think he tries to hard to get that "Conscious" angle going
Explain how he tries to hard. Is this just some feeling that's come to you that can't be supported by anything?
D) He hasn't really done anything, apperantly(according to blogs and such) his best song is Exhibit C....nah son not good enough
This point irrelevant. It's completely based on that ppl have rated him highly somewhere. Outside of artists who've heard his music or worked with him it just seems this expectancy for him to "do" something is based on you reacting to all the acclaim he gets on the internet. Exhibit C aint his best song but it is a recent great one from him since he hasn't dropped anything in a min. You should check his material and decide for yourself.
E) Overrated =/= not good as it would suggest, he's good no doubt, andthe fact that he has the co-sign from some great MC's is a def plus,but that doesn't mean he's the champion on the mic.
You say "as it suggest" is that "it" Jay Elec's claims that's he the best or "champion on the mic" cuz last I checked every rapper from time to time mentions that they're the best on the mic. We got rappers constantly reasserting that claim their whole career and you happen to disagree with Jay so now he isn't as good as he says he is?That aint no damn point. Just another opinion and you entitled to that but it aint enough to justify him being "overrate
idk how to get that quote thing going so this is how I will reply, with hopefully more detail as to what I mean. I'm not trying to say you shouldn't like Jay Electoronica; but him being overrated has little to do with him and more his fans than anything else. The only thing a rapper can do to what his as be rated, is A. get better or B. Get Worse.
A. His flow is spotty, some things you need to work on, on the "Who the #*% is Jay Electronica tape, there are some songs that still have that "underground" flow to them i.e they sacrifice lyrics for flow. *sidenote if he needs time to work on flow...ain't he like 30 something...he aint got that much time.
B. When I talk hip hop with a lot of people they say thing such as this, check the blogs, check the youtube vids, check this, check that...it'll read things such as "Jay Electronica is the realest thing in hip hop right now." Which is a matter of relation( i.e how he relates to you) Cuz I know some people that swear by Lil Boosie, can't tell them they are wrong when they have someone speaking to them. Saying things like this is a matter of opinion, but to say he is the savior of something that doesn't need saving kinda annoys me, that was cool in '06 but that crap is played out now.( Once again nothing to do with Electronica but moreso the fans, I can't emphasis that enough)
C. There is a "preview" video in which he is in some slum in what looks to be India....ain't no **%!+! in India, that has nothing, to me things like that are but a fascade, then again I don't know him maybe he does do things like that...if he did he wouldn't put them in video form, when Jay-Z did Africa Water thing, you didn't hear about it til be started saying that he was selfish with is bread. People do things for them, not for the public. If he wants to go out to India so be it, but don't try and put that in your next video, its so not neccessary. Then this goes back to his mic game, the reason his flow is spotty is because tries to fit a message, as state before I want to hear some clever word play, not Criflo over Airways.
D. Sorry, when I google dude I don't see to many things. on top of that I think you made my point exactly in saying 'that is where people rate him" I think people rate him way higher then his "catalog" deserves.
E. As I said where he is rated has nothing to do with what he said. Didn't mean to offend anyone here, but I think people rate him way to high. When he is compared Lupe, I think we should stop and re-evaluate the way that we rate "new comers"
So I'll conclude this post with this....Jay Electronica is Overrated..it has far less to with is ability and moreso to do with the fans....Get that.
A. His flow is spotty, some things you need to work on, on the "Whothe #*% is Jay Electronica tape, there are some songs that still havethat "underground" flow to them i.e they sacrifice lyrics for flow.*sidenote if he needs time to work on flow...ain't he like 30something...he aint got that much time.
I don't mean he has time to get better as in years upon years. He's been progressing from song to song. So his flow could easily from project to project. FYI both Jay-Z and Em officially got on in the game at the age of 30 and both changed their flows drastically since then(Jigga more than once).
So I'll conclude this post with this....Jay Electronica isOverrated..it has far less to with is ability and moreso to do with thefans....Get that.
If that's the case then so is Jay-Z, Wayne, Lupe, Em, etc. You can't stop these crazy fans/stans from saying wild #@%@I will say I haven't come across many fans online(since I don't know many in real life) that have over hyped or overrated Jay Elec's skills but I don't read youtube comments or many blog comments either. For the most part I get my view of how ppl feel about an artist from NT and a few other forums.
Going by your definition tho J. Cole would be more overrated than Jay Elec going by the comments I read round here and I've been a fan of both before they got that type of attention.
C. There is a "preview" video in which he is in some slum in what looksto be India....ain't no **%!+! in India, that has nothing, to me thingslike that are but a fascade, then again I don't know him maybe he doesdo things like that...if he did he wouldn't put them in video form,when Jay-Z did Africa Water thing, you didn't hear about it til bestarted saying that he was selfish with is bread. People do things forthem, not for the public. If he wants to go out to India so be it, butdon't try and put that in your next video, its so not neccessary. Thenthis goes back to his mic game, the reason his flow is spotty isbecause tries to fit a message, as state before I want to hear someclever word play, not Criflo over Airways.
You're reading way too much in to itIf a $$*!+ want to make a video in India why can't he? Saying there aint no $@@%*! in India sounds mad ignorant. You should try and figure out the song correlates to the vid(he doesn't have many to begin with). The Jay-Z Africa water thing really has nothing to do with this. Maybe you should try to find out more about Jay the man, if him making a vid in India really bothers you that much. In no way does that prove that he's trying too hard to be conscious. It just sounds like you can't even appreciate the visuals of the vid.
I've listened to everything and i still have the same observation
agreed..music is subjective so i see where u coming from
