Joe Johnson... the most overrated underrated player in the league?

[rko2004]

He is just another guy who can be great but doesn't have the drive. T-Mac also goes in that pile. IMO Kobe and Lebron are great but the only separation isthe drive and determination to be the best. Its irritating watch him play sometimes.

 

[kingkb34]

When the lights get bright (playoffs), Joe flees...and this is coming from a supporter...

 

[sooperhooper]

He would be a lot better if he got more aggressive. He plays very scared most of the time. Almost like he doesn't know how much size he has.

 

[youngmoney]

i like his game

 

[koolbarbone]

Superstar? No. All-Star-worthy? Absolutely.

 

[kingjay718]

I'd take him, but he's not first option material.

 

[rko2004]

Originally Posted by sooperhooper

He would be a lot better if he got more aggressive. He plays very scared most of the time. Almost like he doesn't know how much size he has.

Exactly. Dude should be one the best in the league right now but its like He's scared to be that good.

 

[lesfamilia]

As a life-long Hawks observer and basketball junkie in general, I agree with the person or people that said JJ is overrated by purists and underrated by casualfans.

People want to get on the bandwagon this season, but his numbers actually went down in almost all categories from last season, when he was essentially theHawks only consistent (and powerful) offensive threat.

JJ is a legitimate All-Star, and nothing more or nothing less. He's not one of the elite, but he is nowhere near overrated by people who actually know andunderstand the game.

Edit: After a quick scan of the responses, I saw many people claim JJ "plays scared." It's not so much him playing scared as Coach Woodson notknowing what in the world he wants to do with the team or how to use each individual player to the team's advantage. Any casual Hawks fan could tell youthat we've wanted a new coach for a long time now...

 

[jordan supreme]

It seems like we have a "Joe Johnson Underrated" thread ever month

 

[downtown43]

Originally Posted by RKO2004

He is just another guy who can be great but doesn't have the drive. T-Mac also goes in that pile. IMO Kobe and Lebron are great but the only separation is the drive and determination to be the best. Its irritating watch him play sometimes.

don't ever compare Joe Johnson to Tmac.

i will make you look silly if you want to argue that Johnson was ever on Tmac's level as a player.

 

[pharelfor3]

lol @ 4rd

 

[guerrilla warfare]

HE'S NEITHER...

 

[aubstuh86]

Originally Posted by LilStarZ07

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

4rd best two guard in the league Kobe, Wade and Roy.

god damn

 

[the yes guy]

I was seriously thinking about making this post. It seems like there's always someone talking about how underrated this guy is. How can he be underratedwhen people always mention him in that sense?

 

[bwoodfolkgd74]

Originally Posted by yungmatt

Originally Posted by dreClark

Originally Posted by BwooDFolkGD74

soft nicest player in the nba

That award goes to Dirk

you right....not going to argue that

but i can't find any all star shooting guard as soft as joe...

 

[gregory house]

Originally Posted by Kal Ripped Ken

Originally Posted by I NaSmatic I

He's underrated by casual basketball fans but overrated/overhyped by basketball enthusiasts.

Still a very good player though.

 

[daytona 5000]

Originally Posted by LilStarZ07

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

4rd best two guard in the league Kobe, Wade and Roy.

 

[c5a5d5a5]

can someone explain to me how jj is soft

 

[downtown43]

Originally Posted by C5A5D5A5

can someone explain to me how jj is soft

dude averaged like 14-15ppg last series. how are you supposed to be the face of your franchise and you feel no sense of urgency in the playoffs?

they still won, and he did play well in Game 6, but still...

 

[bwoodfolkgd74]

you see him play? then there you go

he real nice, don't get me wrong

he needs some aggressiveness

 

[tmukg21]

Originally Posted by DOWNTOWN43

Originally Posted by RKO2004

He is just another guy who can be great but doesn't have the drive. T-Mac also goes in that pile. IMO Kobe and Lebron are great but the only separation is the drive and determination to be the best. Its irritating watch him play sometimes.

don't ever compare Joe Johnson to Tmac.

i will make you look silly if you want to argue that Johnson was ever on Tmac's level as a player.

T-Mac has drive? He lacks that "killer instinct" Kobe has on Defense and offense (thought it was obvious)

Well, News to me

 

[downtown43]

Originally Posted by tmukg21

Originally Posted by DOWNTOWN43

Originally Posted by RKO2004

He is just another guy who can be great but doesn't have the drive. T-Mac also goes in that pile. IMO Kobe and Lebron are great but the only separation is the drive and determination to be the best. Its irritating watch him play sometimes.

don't ever compare Joe Johnson to Tmac.

i will make you look silly if you want to argue that Johnson was ever on Tmac's level as a player.

T-Mac has drive? He lacks that "killer instinct" Kobe has on Defense and offense (thought it was obvious)

Well, News to me

T-Mac and Joe Johnson are both on completely different levels as players.. the only similarity is that neither has the "drive" to reachthe next level up.

when people talk about Joe Johnson not having the drive, they mean that he could possibly be a superstar in the NBA for a few years. when people talking aboutT-Mac not having the drive, they mean that he could have been one of the greatest basketball players of all time.

same ailment, but they are both on two different playing fields.

 

[c5a5d5a5]

Originally Posted by BwooDFolkGD74

you see him play? then there you go

he real nice, don't get me wrong

he needs some aggressiveness

lackadaisical=/=soft

soft....

 

[bwoodfolkgd74]

Originally Posted by C5A5D5A5

Originally Posted by BwooDFolkGD74

you see him play? then there you go

he real nice, don't get me wrong

he needs some aggressiveness

lackadaisical=/=soft

soft....

if you mix someone up and just keep pulling threes...yeah you soft

he is far from "lackdaisical"

he can still ball out of his mind

 

[beats05]

Overrated. The way I see him, he's still the 4th option on that 2004-2005 Suns team just playing for a team with a far lower talent level. If you put that04-05 Suns team back together right now, he'd still be the 4th option. So no, he's not a superstar. But he gets paid like one. Danny Granger is muchbetter.