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you clearly have never seen the shoe
I've seen the shoe bruh now that you've said it twice I'll reply. I don't think they're trash! I would like to have a pair to sit on one of my shelves by not for wear. I just don't see what about them gets people hot and bothered. You can find 85's that aren't flaking around the collar and to me I would prefer them. Like I said since the beginning they're not bad but if I'm buying something to look at its going to be 85's if I'm buying something to wear it's 13's and you or anyone else isn't going to sway my opinion