picked up a pair Deep Royal Blue off ebay for $130. $400 was way too much for these, but for the price they are going for right now it is definitely worth it if you like the style of the shoes. the leather on these are super nice and on par with a pair of italian loafer i have. insole is leather on top of ortholite which is fairly comfortable as well.
tbh, now that i got these on hand if these were a collab with a high end brand they would have sold out based on these quality. just saying, because i didn't think the leather quality would be this good being made in china.