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**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins
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So many good players left. Kind of nuts.
let’s see who else takes minimums. Ariza and Ellington not looking too good now when you look at list of available players. If most take minimums. Sheesh
let’s see who else takes minimums. Ariza and Ellington not looking too good now when you look at list of available players. If most take minimums. Sheesh
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Probably not gonna hear anything regarding Patty right away, that guys playing a quarterfinal game in a few hours.
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Mills overrated. Move on
pick up George hill for the minimum. Offer the mle to Gay
but then again why did hill get waived? He must suck.
sign Mills!
pick up George hill for the minimum. Offer the mle to Gay
but then again why did hill get waived? He must suck.
sign Mills!
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Time to waive McKinnie. So many good players available. Also **** Dudley lol
then again. I remember my excitement with Mathews and Gasol and holy **** did those two have cement feet.
the names sometime fool u lol
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The BIG BALLS swinging move lakers is resigning Shroeder to 1/16 mill. But Jeanie ain’t trying to pay 70 mill in taxes for him .
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Ain't it crazy he was only a Laker for 2 years and his 1st year he barely played.
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Comparing the title team to what we got now:
Dwight / Dwight
THT / THT
DGreen / Ariza
KCP / Ellington
Caruso / Bazemore now, McClung later
Rondo / Westbrook
McGee / Gasol
Hollins / Penberthy
Kidd / Fizdale
All we gotta do now is find replacements for Bradley, Kuzma, Dudley, Cook, Kieff, Henny
, Waiters, and we gucci
Dwight / Dwight
THT / THT
DGreen / Ariza
KCP / Ellington
Caruso / Bazemore now, McClung later
Rondo / Westbrook
McGee / Gasol
Hollins / Penberthy
Kidd / Fizdale
All we gotta do now is find replacements for Bradley, Kuzma, Dudley, Cook, Kieff, Henny
, Waiters, and we gucci
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He a impact role player who plays championship level (on the right squad). Dude has the traits and the defensive instincts.
I've been wanting him back with Kobe since Artest starting getting old and slowing down. I always thought we'd get Trevor back in his prime but I get it, he had to get that bag.
Better late than never tho
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I'll take the Carmelo and the DeRozan please. To go. And give me a Patty on the side if it's not too much trouble.
Thank you
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Looks like Marc staying
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Marc hell bent on matching big bro's hardware lol
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Sign DDR as the SG
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I would love marc back tbh lol
I like Mills as a back up too
hopefully the shooters don’t fall off too much
Carmelo would be kinda interesting.
y’all like Rudy or Oubre? Lol
Reggie Jackson prob stays a Clipper
I like Mills as a back up too
hopefully the shooters don’t fall off too much
Carmelo would be kinda interesting.
y’all like Rudy or Oubre? Lol
Reggie Jackson prob stays a Clipper
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I’m down with Oubre for the MLE. Give him a chance to rehab his value with us. He would instantly be our best wing defender as well. Younger than Danny Green too.
If we can’t get Oubre, I’d go after Danny green for the MLE over even Mills and Gay.
If we can’t get Oubre, I’d go after Danny green for the MLE over even Mills and Gay.
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Wizards sign Dinwiddie. Dennis literally has no where to go.
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People spent weeks calling Laker fans wild for claiming some guys will come for the minimum & then Batum, Blake & Otto sign for minimums
We need some of that luck as well if we could just get someone like Mills/green for the minimum instead of the full MLE then we're really on to something.
Also hoping that we could get a TPE for Caruso which would be about 5M, or one for Dennis. Those would essentially act as second mle's
We need some of that luck as well if we could just get someone like Mills/green for the minimum instead of the full MLE then we're really on to something.
Also hoping that we could get a TPE for Caruso which would be about 5M, or one for Dennis. Those would essentially act as second mle's
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Did the Lakers undervalue Alex Caruso? Decision to let him walk a head-scratcher
It’s always hard when a team loses a fan favorite, and Alex Caruso was certainly that in Los Angeles. He entered games to raucous chants of “M-V-P” that rivaled the ones LeBron James would receive, both in volume and sincerity.
His ability to laugh at himself and embrace his everyman appearance endeared him to Lakers fans. He was the Carushow. The Bald Eagle. The pitchman for Manscaped who bravely asked, “Are you ready to step up your ball game?”
It was impossible not to cheer for Caruso, unheralded, undrafted and unknown, also totally unafraid of rising up and dunking on dudes. He navigated his way through the G League and the nascent two-way system to become an unlikely star for basketball’s most glamorous franchise — and its supporters loved him for it.
No, it’s never easy to say goodbye to a player who has so thoroughly charmed his team’s fan base, but it’s the cold, hard job of a front office to cut through all of that and separate the sentimentality from on-court production and value.
This is what makes the Lakers’ apathy toward re-signing Caruso, who reportedly agreed on Monday to a four-year, $37 million contract with the Chicago Bulls, so surprising.
For all of the moments and memes Caruso produced in his four years, he also was one of their most valuable and consistent role players. His defensive metrics were consistently among the best on the team, and his net rating in lineups with James led the Lakers as well. When the Lakers needed to make an adjustment to close out the 2020 NBA Finals, it was Caruso who was inserted in the starting lineup. His know-how and nose for the ball made him a defensive menace, and he was constantly drawing charges and diving for loose balls. His instinctive sprint back on defense to cut off Jaylen Brown in transition won the Lakers a game in Boston earlier this year.
Simply put, Caruso was the Lakers’ best perimeter defender and, last year, a pleasant surprise from deep, shooting 40.1 percent on his 2.4 3s per game. His offensive game is limited but was improving. And the Lakers never had any trouble generating offense when he was on the floor, even if he wasn’t often the one putting the ball through the hoop. He consistently drew praise from his coaches and teammates, chief among them LeBron himself.
“A.C. is whatever we need,” James said in January. “A.C. is kind of a Swiss Army knife, to be honest. If you need scissors, a wine opener, fingernail clipper, you get a knife, he’s all that in one. He can do it all, he just helps our ballclub in so many ways.”
The surprise was not only that the Lakers were unable to re-sign Caruso, who was an unrestricted free agent, but also the price point at which he went to the Bulls combined with the Lakers’ apparent disinterest in even trying to compete with that offer. The Athletic’s Sam Amick reported that Caruso’s team presented the Bulls offer to the Lakers, and Rob Pelinka and the front office declined to propose a counteroffer.
As The Athletic’s John Hollinger detailed, the Lakers could theoretically send Caruso to Chicago as part of a sign-and-trade with the Bulls and Houston Rockets that would create a trade exception for the Lakers, something that would perhaps make Caruso’s departure more palatable if they could use it on another free agent.
Even if the Lakers have another big move coming, retaining Caruso seemed like a relatively straightforward — and affordable — decision.
The bottom line is that Pelinka, Kurt Rambis and the other forces that make up the Lakers front office felt differently. That would indicate one of two things: Either the Lakers significantly undervalued what Caruso brought to the table, or they are much more concerned about the luxury tax than previously thought.
With few mechanisms available to improve the team after soaring over the salary cap to acquire Russell Westbrook, the Lakers still held Caruso’s Bird rights and could have signed him to any number. For a team that on Monday added over-30 veterans Trevor Ariza, Wayne Ellington, Dwight Howard and Kent Bazemore, Caruso would have been a relatively young 27. There is no reason he could not have coexisted with those new additions.
It’s possible the Lakers were simply unwilling to commit to Caruso beyond the two-year window they have with James and Westbrook. After 2023, the only contract on the books is for Anthony Davis, and the Lakers may loathe to cut into potential cap space to pursue another max free agent.
But isn’t that putting the cart before the horse? And how hard would it be to unload Caruso’s $9 million a year at that point if necessary?
Regardless, there are many inside the organization who are celebrating a massive payday for a well-liked player whose first two-way contract in 2017 guaranteed him only $75,000.
That doesn’t make it any less of a head-scratcher.
In a matter of days, the league’s best defensive team has lost all of its top perimeter defenders. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is in Washington, Caruso is headed for Chicago and Westbrook’s arrival has all but ended Dennis Schröder’s time in L.A.
That is a lot of defensive acumen for the Lakers to try to make up with minimum contracts. They can still re-sign Wesley Matthews and have the ability to match any offer sheet 20-year-old Talen Horton-Tucker signs as a restricted free agent — and they should. But if Monday taught us anything about the Lakers, it was a shift in philosophy and that the front office does not place a premium on the traits that made Caruso so uniquely valuable to the Lakers.
It’s always hard when a team loses a fan favorite, and Alex Caruso was certainly that in Los Angeles. He entered games to raucous chants of “M-V-P” that rivaled the ones LeBron James would receive, both in volume and sincerity.
His ability to laugh at himself and embrace his everyman appearance endeared him to Lakers fans. He was the Carushow. The Bald Eagle. The pitchman for Manscaped who bravely asked, “Are you ready to step up your ball game?”
It was impossible not to cheer for Caruso, unheralded, undrafted and unknown, also totally unafraid of rising up and dunking on dudes. He navigated his way through the G League and the nascent two-way system to become an unlikely star for basketball’s most glamorous franchise — and its supporters loved him for it.
No, it’s never easy to say goodbye to a player who has so thoroughly charmed his team’s fan base, but it’s the cold, hard job of a front office to cut through all of that and separate the sentimentality from on-court production and value.
This is what makes the Lakers’ apathy toward re-signing Caruso, who reportedly agreed on Monday to a four-year, $37 million contract with the Chicago Bulls, so surprising.
For all of the moments and memes Caruso produced in his four years, he also was one of their most valuable and consistent role players. His defensive metrics were consistently among the best on the team, and his net rating in lineups with James led the Lakers as well. When the Lakers needed to make an adjustment to close out the 2020 NBA Finals, it was Caruso who was inserted in the starting lineup. His know-how and nose for the ball made him a defensive menace, and he was constantly drawing charges and diving for loose balls. His instinctive sprint back on defense to cut off Jaylen Brown in transition won the Lakers a game in Boston earlier this year.
Simply put, Caruso was the Lakers’ best perimeter defender and, last year, a pleasant surprise from deep, shooting 40.1 percent on his 2.4 3s per game. His offensive game is limited but was improving. And the Lakers never had any trouble generating offense when he was on the floor, even if he wasn’t often the one putting the ball through the hoop. He consistently drew praise from his coaches and teammates, chief among them LeBron himself.
“A.C. is whatever we need,” James said in January. “A.C. is kind of a Swiss Army knife, to be honest. If you need scissors, a wine opener, fingernail clipper, you get a knife, he’s all that in one. He can do it all, he just helps our ballclub in so many ways.”
The surprise was not only that the Lakers were unable to re-sign Caruso, who was an unrestricted free agent, but also the price point at which he went to the Bulls combined with the Lakers’ apparent disinterest in even trying to compete with that offer. The Athletic’s Sam Amick reported that Caruso’s team presented the Bulls offer to the Lakers, and Rob Pelinka and the front office declined to propose a counteroffer.
As The Athletic’s John Hollinger detailed, the Lakers could theoretically send Caruso to Chicago as part of a sign-and-trade with the Bulls and Houston Rockets that would create a trade exception for the Lakers, something that would perhaps make Caruso’s departure more palatable if they could use it on another free agent.
Even if the Lakers have another big move coming, retaining Caruso seemed like a relatively straightforward — and affordable — decision.
The bottom line is that Pelinka, Kurt Rambis and the other forces that make up the Lakers front office felt differently. That would indicate one of two things: Either the Lakers significantly undervalued what Caruso brought to the table, or they are much more concerned about the luxury tax than previously thought.
With few mechanisms available to improve the team after soaring over the salary cap to acquire Russell Westbrook, the Lakers still held Caruso’s Bird rights and could have signed him to any number. For a team that on Monday added over-30 veterans Trevor Ariza, Wayne Ellington, Dwight Howard and Kent Bazemore, Caruso would have been a relatively young 27. There is no reason he could not have coexisted with those new additions.
It’s possible the Lakers were simply unwilling to commit to Caruso beyond the two-year window they have with James and Westbrook. After 2023, the only contract on the books is for Anthony Davis, and the Lakers may loathe to cut into potential cap space to pursue another max free agent.
But isn’t that putting the cart before the horse? And how hard would it be to unload Caruso’s $9 million a year at that point if necessary?
Regardless, there are many inside the organization who are celebrating a massive payday for a well-liked player whose first two-way contract in 2017 guaranteed him only $75,000.
That doesn’t make it any less of a head-scratcher.
In a matter of days, the league’s best defensive team has lost all of its top perimeter defenders. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is in Washington, Caruso is headed for Chicago and Westbrook’s arrival has all but ended Dennis Schröder’s time in L.A.
That is a lot of defensive acumen for the Lakers to try to make up with minimum contracts. They can still re-sign Wesley Matthews and have the ability to match any offer sheet 20-year-old Talen Horton-Tucker signs as a restricted free agent — and they should. But if Monday taught us anything about the Lakers, it was a shift in philosophy and that the front office does not place a premium on the traits that made Caruso so uniquely valuable to the Lakers.
How Kent Bazemore fits with Lakers as they fill out their rotation
The Los Angeles Lakers agreed to a one-year deal with wing Kent Bazemore on Monday, according to The Athletic’s Shams Charania.
Bazemore turned down more money and years (two) from the Warriors, reported Charania, to have a bigger role and better opportunity to win a championship with the Lakers. The 32-year-old averaged 7.2 points, 3.6 rebounds, 1.6 assists and 1.0 steals to go along with 40.8 percent 3-point shooting in Golden State last season.
How he fits: Bazemore, the fourth former Lakers player to sign with the team this offseason, is a 3-and-D wing who helps shore up the team’s suddenly shaky guard defense. He’s coming off of a career 3-point shooting season and is a long, pesky defender who can defend one through three and even some smaller fours. He also can handle the ball and be a secondary playmaker, giving the Lakers’ bench — he’s unlikely to start — some additional juice.
2021-22 impact: Bazemore joins Trevor Ariza (more of a defender) and Wayne Ellington (an elite 3-point shooter) as the third wing the Lakers have signed. He’s probably the best perimeter defender of the new bunch.
The question becomes: Does the Bazemore signing spell the end of Talen Horton-Tucker or Wesley Matthews in L.A.? The Lakers already have three positions (LeBron James, Anthony Davis and Russell Westbrook) locked up for 30-plus minutes. Add in Ariza, Ellington and Bazemore, and there are only so many minutes two through four. Horton-Tucker or Matthews seems like a casualty (more likely Matthews than Horton-Tucker).
My initial reaction: Another solid pickup for the Lakers. It’s difficult to find any criticism with the additions they’ve made. Bazemore isn’t likely to replicate his career shooting season again — his career log features wild swings season to season — but he helps defensively and can do more than just shoot (even if that’s his likely role). The Lakers deserve credit for pushing the right buttons in free agency so far.
What’s next? The Bazemore move — and the subsequent reporting that he’s expecting a big role — suggests that Matthews might not be returning to the Lakers. Unless the Lakers are planning to play Bazemore more at forward than shooting guard, it wouldn’t make sense to also bring back Horton-Tucker and Matthews.
It remains unclear which Lakers have signed for the veteran’s minimum and which the team has used the taxpayer midlevel exception on (if they’ve even used it all). That will determine who else the Lakers pursue and if the team retains lower-end rotation pieces like Matthews, Markieff Morris and Ben McLemore.
The Los Angeles Lakers agreed to a one-year deal with wing Kent Bazemore on Monday, according to The Athletic’s Shams Charania.
Bazemore turned down more money and years (two) from the Warriors, reported Charania, to have a bigger role and better opportunity to win a championship with the Lakers. The 32-year-old averaged 7.2 points, 3.6 rebounds, 1.6 assists and 1.0 steals to go along with 40.8 percent 3-point shooting in Golden State last season.
How he fits: Bazemore, the fourth former Lakers player to sign with the team this offseason, is a 3-and-D wing who helps shore up the team’s suddenly shaky guard defense. He’s coming off of a career 3-point shooting season and is a long, pesky defender who can defend one through three and even some smaller fours. He also can handle the ball and be a secondary playmaker, giving the Lakers’ bench — he’s unlikely to start — some additional juice.
2021-22 impact: Bazemore joins Trevor Ariza (more of a defender) and Wayne Ellington (an elite 3-point shooter) as the third wing the Lakers have signed. He’s probably the best perimeter defender of the new bunch.
The question becomes: Does the Bazemore signing spell the end of Talen Horton-Tucker or Wesley Matthews in L.A.? The Lakers already have three positions (LeBron James, Anthony Davis and Russell Westbrook) locked up for 30-plus minutes. Add in Ariza, Ellington and Bazemore, and there are only so many minutes two through four. Horton-Tucker or Matthews seems like a casualty (more likely Matthews than Horton-Tucker).
My initial reaction: Another solid pickup for the Lakers. It’s difficult to find any criticism with the additions they’ve made. Bazemore isn’t likely to replicate his career shooting season again — his career log features wild swings season to season — but he helps defensively and can do more than just shoot (even if that’s his likely role). The Lakers deserve credit for pushing the right buttons in free agency so far.
What’s next? The Bazemore move — and the subsequent reporting that he’s expecting a big role — suggests that Matthews might not be returning to the Lakers. Unless the Lakers are planning to play Bazemore more at forward than shooting guard, it wouldn’t make sense to also bring back Horton-Tucker and Matthews.
It remains unclear which Lakers have signed for the veteran’s minimum and which the team has used the taxpayer midlevel exception on (if they’ve even used it all). That will determine who else the Lakers pursue and if the team retains lower-end rotation pieces like Matthews, Markieff Morris and Ben McLemore.
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