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i'm not ready for him to leave tho 
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can't believe he's going out like this tho
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i'm not ready for him to leave tho
Me neither but I don't think his body will let him be Kobe anymore. I just hope he lasts until Christmas at least so I can at least say I've seen him play live even though it's the Tide version.
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If Kobe and Byron team up to bring us one last Top 3 pick, this season will be one of my favorites. I wouldn't even be mad at them.
If they screw up that pick, and stall these young guys, words gonna get said.
Really not likin seein DLo and Clarkson look so dejected over bad shots from Kob. I need them to see the forrest thru the trees. The dawn before the daylight. The grass thru the mow.
He won't be here long. Learn what you can, work, and you will run things in due time. Be patient young fellas.
If they screw up that pick, and stall these young guys, words gonna get said.
Really not likin seein DLo and Clarkson look so dejected over bad shots from Kob. I need them to see the forrest thru the trees. The dawn before the daylight. The grass thru the mow.
He won't be here long. Learn what you can, work, and you will run things in due time. Be patient young fellas.
comptonprince
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Does Hibbert get traded by the deadline?
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No because legit 7 footers aren't so easy to come by, and our defense gives up close to 430 a night without Hibbert slowin down at least a few shots.
Unless its Hibbert for another 7 footer (unlikely) or a very, very nice draft pick (more unlikely) I don't see him bein moved.
Unless its Hibbert for another 7 footer (unlikely) or a very, very nice draft pick (more unlikely) I don't see him bein moved.
comptonprince
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Well if he more than likely wont be resigned I always was under the impression he would be moved to acquire another asset (Picks)
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He will be resigned (if he wants to be here) He is a very solid fit to this young team.
DLo
Clarkson
Ben Simmons
Randle
Hibbert
Great starting 5, 50 mil to build a bench.
DLo
Clarkson
Ben Simmons
Randle
Hibbert
Great starting 5, 50 mil to build a bench.
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Great 
that's another lottery team for sure
that's another lottery team for sure
comptonprince
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Hell we might mess around be in the lottery until Shaq son declareGreatthat's another lottery team for sure
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2020 we'll be byke. Brinks truck to Whiteside and maybe Barnes this summer. Damn a Hibbert.
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comptonprince
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Whiteside aint screwed too tight I might pass on him
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Beggars can't be choosers.
comptonprince
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U would really give that dude 100+M?
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He practically dropped around 15% from his career average.
I thought last season's 38% would be already very bad.
Any other non superstar player would be benched if shooting 33% from the field.
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Take it fwiw
But my homie handles all of kobes flights
He believes it's kobes last season because his wife and kids are booked to fly out to EVERY away game this year and will be at every home game as well. It's not cheap either and we know Kobe ain't gonna take a paycut or a diminished role he has too much pride so it does seem to be a farewell tour for the mamba
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My take on Kobe... No I'm not absolving him of it either, he's making terrible decisions.. Mainly from 3 / settle from 3. He gets a good chunk of that blame.
1. Give him a consistent rotation.. This is what it has been the past 4 games.
Knicks
1st: 12-4
2nd: 12-6:50
1:54-Half
3rd: 12-4:01
4th: 12-8:56
6:01-End
Nets:
1st: 12-5:03
2nd: 12-7:22
5:22-Half
3rd: 12-4:58
4th: 12-8:41
3:45-End
Nuggets:
1st: 12-3:31
2nd: 7:11-3:38
3rd: 12-3:06
4th: 8:15-End
Mavs:
1st: 12-5:05
2nd: 6:45-Half
3rd: 12-3:42
4th: 9:23-End
The last two, what the hell is the point of starting him in the 4th, then giving him rest in the middle of the damn quarter, and then bringing him back in? That's just stupid minute management. I wouldn't even do that to prime Kobe. Not Phil, not Mike Brown, not Mike D'Antoni, took Kobe out then subbed him in 2 minutes later to close out a half/game. Exception of MDA, when every game was must-win, and Kobe was only thing that could score. But these are not must win games, nor is this Kobe that Kobe. What's that 2 minute breather going to do for him, other than just throw his timing off even more. Same with the second quarter, why the hell are you subbing him out, giving him a couple minutes of rest, then bringing him back in? We all know he's getting the ball to end quarters, taking him out, then rest, then back in is stupid for timing sake.
Easy way to do this. No exceptions:
1st: 12-3
2nd: 8-Half
3rd: 12-4
4th: 7-End of Game
32 minutes. Could mix and match Swaggy & Lou to get their time as well.
2. There are way too many 3s. He's shooting 16.2 shots a game. Only making 5.2 of them. If he was hitting his career average, he'd be hitting 7.3 shots. There's a 12.1% variance on his FG%. And the biggest place to see it is in his 3 point shooting. Career-wise, he took 4 3s out of 19.6 shots per game. This year, it is 8 out of 16.2 shots per game. And he's also hitting these at a bit over 12% worse than his career high.
The 3s have to be limited to 2 situations.
1. He's wide open. Whether it's a catch and shoot wide-open, a guy goes way under the pick wide open, or he brings it up court and gets a lot of room.
2. Necessary end of shot clock, end of quarter / half / game.
Other than that, the shot needs to be left alone from behind the arc.
Just look at the games:
FG-FGA / 2P-2PA / 3P-3PA
vs. Min: 8-24 / 5-11 / 3-13
@Sac: 5-12 / 4-4 / 1-8
vs. Dal: 3-15 / 1-7 / 2-8
vs. Den: 4-11/ 3-6 /1-5
@BK: 5-16 / 4-12 / 1-4
@NYK: 6-19 / 4-9 / 2-10
In 4 of the 6 games, he's been killed by way too many 3s. Shoots well from inside the arc, but hoisting 2-3 3's a quarter. He ain't getting that many open looks.
We all know he's old, and can't get to the rack, but following those 2 situations as the only way he shots 3s, he'd still get 1 a quarter. And if he went 1-5 on the type of 3s I want him to take, it sucks, but I'll live with that.
3. His 2P% is down career .481, to .426 this year. Just logically speaking, you should expect that number to go down. 1. He doesn't get to the rim to dunk on, over or around guys. 2. Doesn't get by his guy off the dribble. 3. Doesn't get the same lift on his turnaround jumper.
But there are ways to get half way in between .426 & .481. The difference among his shots is .4 FGM from 2 a game on the 8.2 shots he takes from inside the arc.
Get him moving without the ball, get him off-ball screens, get him P&R opportunities, get him on the low post as opposed to the high post (where at least he has enough to get a foul), get him moving toward the basket with the ball through screens as opposed to perpendicular.
I'm fine with the shot total, I really am. Maybe a shot less. But there's ways to get Kobe to that 40% plateau (It's a 1.3 FGM difference).
1. No more silly rotations where you take him out, sit two minutes, then bring him back in. Especially when it's the 2nd & 4th, where you know he's getting the shots. You're making it harder for everybody Byron.
2. Cut the amount of 3s in half.
3. Cut the type of 3s he's taking. Open 3s (however they come), End of Time 3s. Everything else, you have to tell him, he does not have the green light for. If you follow that metric, he may not shot 33% again, but 25% is obtainable. And if these are the types of 3s he's missing, so be it.
4. Get him moving. Set him screens, on-ball, off-ball, put him in P&R opportunities, make him the screener teams don't expect that nor should they and you may be able to cherry pick one a game, Get him going toward the basket, not perpendicular.
Those things and even a washed Kobe could get somewhere between where he is and what he was/should be.
edit**: One more thing, stop with the first pass into the high post all the damn time to Kobe. It's a ridiculous way that we run the offense, and it leaves us with no sets to run that can work when you do it over and over and over.
1. Give him a consistent rotation.. This is what it has been the past 4 games.
Knicks
1st: 12-4
2nd: 12-6:50
1:54-Half
3rd: 12-4:01
4th: 12-8:56
6:01-End
Nets:
1st: 12-5:03
2nd: 12-7:22
5:22-Half
3rd: 12-4:58
4th: 12-8:41
3:45-End
Nuggets:
1st: 12-3:31
2nd: 7:11-3:38
3rd: 12-3:06
4th: 8:15-End
Mavs:
1st: 12-5:05
2nd: 6:45-Half
3rd: 12-3:42
4th: 9:23-End
The last two, what the hell is the point of starting him in the 4th, then giving him rest in the middle of the damn quarter, and then bringing him back in? That's just stupid minute management. I wouldn't even do that to prime Kobe. Not Phil, not Mike Brown, not Mike D'Antoni, took Kobe out then subbed him in 2 minutes later to close out a half/game. Exception of MDA, when every game was must-win, and Kobe was only thing that could score. But these are not must win games, nor is this Kobe that Kobe. What's that 2 minute breather going to do for him, other than just throw his timing off even more. Same with the second quarter, why the hell are you subbing him out, giving him a couple minutes of rest, then bringing him back in? We all know he's getting the ball to end quarters, taking him out, then rest, then back in is stupid for timing sake.
Easy way to do this. No exceptions:
1st: 12-3
2nd: 8-Half
3rd: 12-4
4th: 7-End of Game
32 minutes. Could mix and match Swaggy & Lou to get their time as well.
2. There are way too many 3s. He's shooting 16.2 shots a game. Only making 5.2 of them. If he was hitting his career average, he'd be hitting 7.3 shots. There's a 12.1% variance on his FG%. And the biggest place to see it is in his 3 point shooting. Career-wise, he took 4 3s out of 19.6 shots per game. This year, it is 8 out of 16.2 shots per game. And he's also hitting these at a bit over 12% worse than his career high.
The 3s have to be limited to 2 situations.
1. He's wide open. Whether it's a catch and shoot wide-open, a guy goes way under the pick wide open, or he brings it up court and gets a lot of room.
2. Necessary end of shot clock, end of quarter / half / game.
Other than that, the shot needs to be left alone from behind the arc.
Just look at the games:
FG-FGA / 2P-2PA / 3P-3PA
vs. Min: 8-24 / 5-11 / 3-13
@Sac: 5-12 / 4-4 / 1-8
vs. Dal: 3-15 / 1-7 / 2-8
vs. Den: 4-11/ 3-6 /1-5
@BK: 5-16 / 4-12 / 1-4
@NYK: 6-19 / 4-9 / 2-10
In 4 of the 6 games, he's been killed by way too many 3s. Shoots well from inside the arc, but hoisting 2-3 3's a quarter. He ain't getting that many open looks.
We all know he's old, and can't get to the rack, but following those 2 situations as the only way he shots 3s, he'd still get 1 a quarter. And if he went 1-5 on the type of 3s I want him to take, it sucks, but I'll live with that.
3. His 2P% is down career .481, to .426 this year. Just logically speaking, you should expect that number to go down. 1. He doesn't get to the rim to dunk on, over or around guys. 2. Doesn't get by his guy off the dribble. 3. Doesn't get the same lift on his turnaround jumper.
But there are ways to get half way in between .426 & .481. The difference among his shots is .4 FGM from 2 a game on the 8.2 shots he takes from inside the arc.
Get him moving without the ball, get him off-ball screens, get him P&R opportunities, get him on the low post as opposed to the high post (where at least he has enough to get a foul), get him moving toward the basket with the ball through screens as opposed to perpendicular.
I'm fine with the shot total, I really am. Maybe a shot less. But there's ways to get Kobe to that 40% plateau (It's a 1.3 FGM difference).
1. No more silly rotations where you take him out, sit two minutes, then bring him back in. Especially when it's the 2nd & 4th, where you know he's getting the shots. You're making it harder for everybody Byron.
2. Cut the amount of 3s in half.
3. Cut the type of 3s he's taking. Open 3s (however they come), End of Time 3s. Everything else, you have to tell him, he does not have the green light for. If you follow that metric, he may not shot 33% again, but 25% is obtainable. And if these are the types of 3s he's missing, so be it.
4. Get him moving. Set him screens, on-ball, off-ball, put him in P&R opportunities, make him the screener teams don't expect that nor should they and you may be able to cherry pick one a game, Get him going toward the basket, not perpendicular.
Those things and even a washed Kobe could get somewhere between where he is and what he was/should be.
edit**: One more thing, stop with the first pass into the high post all the damn time to Kobe. It's a ridiculous way that we run the offense, and it leaves us with no sets to run that can work when you do it over and over and over.
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Another thing. Lou Williams is not a good fit for this team. In terms of chuckers, Swaggy actually fits the best, and has done the most to fit in. (Yes long season still awaits, and could still change).
But Lou Will takes from Russell & Clarkson as much as Kobe does. Kobe has high usage, but he isn't primary ball handler when he's out there. At least with Nick, he's strictly a 2nd unit guy, at this point he's only out there for 3s, and is not taking minutes from anybody but Anthony Brown, and truth be told, Brown should have taken the year in the DLeague anyway.
Maybe, Lou Williams shouldn't be touching the court with Russell & Clarkson, and that allows the young guys to trade off being the guy. Whether it's with Kobe or Nick at the 3 for Russell & Clarkson. When you throw in Lou, with Clarkson or Russell, he becomes primary ball handler, and that's not optimal.
But Lou Will takes from Russell & Clarkson as much as Kobe does. Kobe has high usage, but he isn't primary ball handler when he's out there. At least with Nick, he's strictly a 2nd unit guy, at this point he's only out there for 3s, and is not taking minutes from anybody but Anthony Brown, and truth be told, Brown should have taken the year in the DLeague anyway.
Maybe, Lou Williams shouldn't be touching the court with Russell & Clarkson, and that allows the young guys to trade off being the guy. Whether it's with Kobe or Nick at the 3 for Russell & Clarkson. When you throw in Lou, with Clarkson or Russell, he becomes primary ball handler, and that's not optimal.
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It's more likely than not that we will be 1-11 going into the Portland game at home.
IF we lose to the lowly Blazers at home, logic says BS should be fired
We will see if Jim has the guts to fire "family "
IF we lose to the lowly Blazers at home, logic says BS should be fired
We will see if Jim has the guts to fire "family "
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Somebody still has a higher say than he does...
And she cried in her office with him, so.
But yeah, I'd go end of the earth respect for Jimmy if he pulled the plug on him.
I'm also really coming around to Thibs as our coach.. Offensively he's a tire fire, but so is Byron. But maybe a defensive-minded coach is what we need based on our young guys, and Clarkson-Russell & Randle all 3 offensive minded guys can figure it out themselves on offense.
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Jeanie has power over Jim? I thought they were equals?
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LOS ANGELES -- Lakers president and governor Jeanie Buss made it clear Thursday that the final say, the "final hammer" as Dr. Jerry Buss used to call it, lies with her now.
"I'm the boss," Jeanie Buss said in an hourlong interview on the "Mason and Ireland" show on ESPNLA 710 radio Thursday. "I am responsible ultimately for anything with the team and decisions that are made.
"In my position, I empower people that are in positions to do their jobs. [Executive vice president of player personnel] Jim Buss and [general manager] Mitch Kupchak are responsible for all basketball decisions. They are empowered to do that. My job is to make sure, as a boss, that I provide them the tools to do the job successfully. But it's up to them to make the day-to-day decisions on how they operate their area of the business."
Buss explained that the six Buss siblings own the team in trust and are its majority owners. Anschutz Entertainment Group, real estate developer Ed Roski and world-renowned doctor Patrick Soon-Shiong are the other investors.
The final say over Lakers operations and decisions belongs to her, however.
"Ultimately I am the one voice. I am that person. I'm at the top of the food chain," Buss said.
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I blame her USC education.
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