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Kobe MVP and COTY
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d-loading...cant wait til he's charged up
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Where's purplenyellow? Haven't seen him since D'lo started showing out.
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DLO is playing much better and I'm happy to see his development
I would like to see him attack the basket more, especially coming around a screen, and play better defense
If he can be a 18-8-5 player on the Lakers, he'll be a perennial all star starter just based on fan voting. The question is will we expect more from a #2 pick? I want him to become elite (i.e. Kyrie, steph, Russ, cp3) and I hope he gets there
I would like to see him attack the basket more, especially coming around a screen, and play better defense
If he can be a 18-8-5 player on the Lakers, he'll be a perennial all star starter just based on fan voting. The question is will we expect more from a #2 pick? I want him to become elite (i.e. Kyrie, steph, Russ, cp3) and I hope he gets there
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You're probably right, put Dame in there
Either way, will we' be ok with using up a 2nd pick on someone who may not ever be in that 1st tier of elite players at his position? I know it's early in his career but most can agree he doesn't have elite speed, athleticism nor shooting ability. He has elite vision/passing.
Obviously he needs to build his body up, so maybe he can become Livingston or Penny in terms of post up ability.
It all remains to be seen and so much depends on confidence so who knows
Either way, will we' be ok with using up a 2nd pick on someone who may not ever be in that 1st tier of elite players at his position? I know it's early in his career but most can agree he doesn't have elite speed, athleticism nor shooting ability. He has elite vision/passing.
Obviously he needs to build his body up, so maybe he can become Livingston or Penny in terms of post up ability.
It all remains to be seen and so much depends on confidence so who knows
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Not every draft is going to guarantee elite players, even at #2.
If you look back the last 10 years or so, #2 has been a 'bust' more often than not. That being said, I thought I'd share an interesting thing I found.
Rookies Guards (<21y/o) 12+ pts, 3+ ast, 4+ rbs, 1+ stl per 29 minutes
[th=""] [/th][th=""]Player[/th][th=""]Season[/th][th=""]Age[/th][th=""] [/th][th=""] [/th][th=""] [/th][th=""] [/th][th=""] [/th][th=""]FG[/th][th=""]FGA[/th][th=""] [/th][th=""] [/th][th=""]3P[/th][th=""]3PA[/th][th=""] [/th][th=""] [/th][th=""]ORB[/th][th=""]DRB[/th][th=""]TRB[/th][th=""]AST[/th][th=""]STL[/th][th=""]BLK[/th][th=""]TOV[/th][th=""]PF[/th][th=""]PTS[/th][th=""]FG%[/th][th=""]2P%[/th][th=""]3P%[/th][th=""]eFG%[/th][th=""]FT%[/th][th=""]TS%[/th][th=""]PER[/th]
Notes: 3/7 are HOFers. 1/7 is Tyreke Evens. He is the youngest on this list, but he has a long way to go. CP3 makes the list at 6' nothin"
Rookies Guards (<21y/o) 12+ pts, 3+ ast, 4+ rbs, 1+ stl per 29 minutes
| Michael Jordan* | 1984-85 | 21 | 7.7 | 15.0 | 0.1 | 0.5 | 1.5 | 3.4 | 4.9 | 4.4 | 1.8 | 0.6 | 2.7 | 2.6 | 21.3 | .515 | .526 | .173 | .518 | .845 | .592 | 25.8 | ||||||||||
| Chris Paul | 2005-06 | 20 | 4.2 | 9.8 | 0.5 | 1.8 | 0.6 | 3.5 | 4.1 | 6.3 | 1.8 | 0.1 | 1.9 | 2.3 | 13.0 | .430 | .464 | .282 | .456 | .847 | .546 | 22.1 | ||||||||||
| Magic Johnson* | 1979-80 | 20 | 5.2 | 9.8 | 0.1 | 0.3 | 1.7 | 4.5 | 6.2 | 5.8 | 1.9 | 0.4 | 3.2 | 2.3 | 14.4 | .530 | .540 | .226 | .534 | .810 | .602 | 20.6 | ||||||||||
| Tyreke Evans | 2009-10 | 20 | 5.8 | 12.6 | 0.4 | 1.5 | 0.7 | 3.4 | 4.1 | 4.5 | 1.2 | 0.3 | 2.3 | 2.2 | 15.7 | .458 | .485 | .255 | .473 | .748 | .529 | 18.2 | ||||||||||
| Russell Westbrook | 2008-09 | 20 | 4.7 | 11.9 | 0.4 | 1.4 | 1.9 | 2.4 | 4.3 | 4.7 | 1.2 | 0.2 | 3.0 | 2.1 | 13.7 | .398 | .415 | .271 | .414 | .815 | .489 | 15.2 | ||||||||||
| Clyde Drexler* | 1983-84 | 21 | 5.2 | 11.5 | 0.0 | 0.1 | 2.3 | 2.5 | 4.8 | 3.2 | 2.2 | 0.6 | 2.5 | 4.3 | 12.9 | .451 | .452 | .250 | .452 | .728 | .496 | 14.5 | ||||||||||
| D'Angelo Russell | 2015-16 | 1 | 5.0 | 12.2 | 1.6 | 4.9 | 0.8 | 3.6 | 4.4 | 3.4 | 1.2 | 0.2 | 2.3 | 1.8 | 12.5 | .408 | .461 | .328 | .473 | .750 | .490 | 13.3 |
Notes: 3/7 are HOFers. 1/7 is Tyreke Evens. He is the youngest on this list, but he has a long way to go. CP3 makes the list at 6' nothin"
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I'll be OK if he becomes an important player for the Lakers for a long time to come.
That's how teams including the Lakers think when they're drafting a player, so that's how I'll judge how they used the pick.
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What a truly obscure stat. 
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dlo the first infant to average 12 points in the nba
If you look back the last 10 years or so, #2 has been a 'bust' more often than not. That being said, I thought I'd share an interesting thing I found.
Rookies Guards (<21y/o) 12+ pts, 3+ ast, 4+ rbs, 1+ stl per 29 minutes
[th=""] [/th][th=""]Player[/th][th=""]Season[/th][th=""]Age[/th][th=""] [/th][th=""] [/th][th=""] [/th][th=""] [/th][th=""] [/th][th=""]FG[/th][th=""]FGA[/th][th=""] [/th][th=""] [/th][th=""]3P[/th][th=""]3PA[/th][th=""] [/th][th=""] [/th][th=""]ORB[/th][th=""]DRB[/th][th=""]TRB[/th][th=""]AST[/th][th=""]STL[/th][th=""]BLK[/th][th=""]TOV[/th][th=""]PF[/th][th=""]PTS[/th][th=""]FG%[/th][th=""]2P%[/th][th=""]3P%[/th][th=""]eFG%[/th][th=""]FT%[/th][th=""]TS%[/th][th=""]PER[/th]
Michael Jordan* 1984-85 21 7.7 15.0 0.1 0.5 1.5 3.4 4.9 4.4 1.8 0.6 2.7 2.6 21.3 .515 .526 .173 .518 .845 .592 25.8 Chris Paul 2005-06 20 4.2 9.8 0.5 1.8 0.6 3.5 4.1 6.3 1.8 0.1 1.9 2.3 13.0 .430 .464 .282 .456 .847 .546 22.1 Magic Johnson* 1979-80 20 5.2 9.8 0.1 0.3 1.7 4.5 6.2 5.8 1.9 0.4 3.2 2.3 14.4 .530 .540 .226 .534 .810 .602 20.6 Tyreke Evans 2009-10 20 5.8 12.6 0.4 1.5 0.7 3.4 4.1 4.5 1.2 0.3 2.3 2.2 15.7 .458 .485 .255 .473 .748 .529 18.2 Russell Westbrook 2008-09 20 4.7 11.9 0.4 1.4 1.9 2.4 4.3 4.7 1.2 0.2 3.0 2.1 13.7 .398 .415 .271 .414 .815 .489 15.2 Clyde Drexler* 1983-84 21 5.2 11.5 0.0 0.1 2.3 2.5 4.8 3.2 2.2 0.6 2.5 4.3 12.9 .451 .452 .250 .452 .728 .496 14.5 D'Angelo Russell 2015-16 1 5.0 12.2 1.6 4.9 0.8 3.6 4.4 3.4 1.2 0.2 2.3 1.8 12.5 .408 .461 .328 .473 .750 .490 13.3
Notes: 3/7 are HOFers. 1/7 is Tyreke Evens. He is the youngest on this list, but he has a long way to go. CP3 makes the list at 6' nothin"
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id like to see your kobe collection
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thisid like to see your kobe collectionI need to post all my Kobes someday. Would surprise y'all, I guarantee it.
I might need to buy a few pairs off you so that you can afford a new camera
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Oh sh*t just found my new home. I'm actually surprised that Julius has been gobbling up all those boards even relocated to the bench. He's 6'9 too!
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Without injury NO QUESTION he is. That boy game is straight filthy.
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I legitimately thought he'd be at about the high end of 6, low end of 7 for a few years. Then get up to 8, maybe 9 in his prime with more minutes.
But his motor runs so high, that he actually has transferred over what he did at Kentucky, and brought it to the NBA. He averages 9.5 rpg as a rookie.
He will likely be a nightly double double guy.
He's 12th in the league.. 3rd among PFs. His per 48 Rebounds for PFs is T-2nd with Clint Capela behind Thomas Robinson (who only plays 10mpg).
He currently has the same rebounding rate as Karl-Anthony Towns, and just slightly behind Kevin Love
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I remember people closing him when he said he would absolutely average a double double.
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I mean, same can be said about d-rose though
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today is the big day
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What we are seeing right now is Randle's floor, basically 12 and 10. Once he gets more touches, minutes, fixes his jumper and learns to pick his spots (stop trying to score over multiple defenders in the paint) he'll be even better.
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Druss gonna go off against the rockets tonight
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Randle could be 17-20ppg and 10 easily once he develops that midrange.
He's also still a rookie in my eyes so I've been very impressed with his play this season.
He's also still a rookie in my eyes so I've been very impressed with his play this season.
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Crap. We have another year of Byron's contract guaranteed after this season. Thought this was it. 
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