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[Lizakers]

Okay. Then you have $60mil. How do you spend it?

No trades for Butler, George or Cousins. They're not realistic.

Let's safely assume KD, LeBron and Nic Batum are unlikely to leave as well. Because that's a pretty safe bet.

So let's play "Spend the Buss' money"

*Remember what you don't use, probably goes to Clarkson. And if you spend it all, then 2017 we're capped out.

Under those assumptions, I'd go with Barnes and Whiteside and pay JC.

I'd consider Baze and Ryan Andersen too

 

[comptonprince]

BARNES

HASSAN

PAY JC

DO IT MITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MVP]

BARNES
HASSAN
PAY JC


DO IT MITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Baze/Barnes are interchangeable but yea.

Whiteside/Festus to a lesser extent but I doubt GS is letting them both go.

You spend 50 of the 60 mil available and you still have another max slot for next summer.

 

[fun guy]

All 60 mil doesn't all have to be spent this summer don't know why you guys act like it has to be.

Whiteside is priority number 1. Bazemore or Barnes if all the other guys are of the table in addition to keeping the pick and call it a offseason. Fill out the rest of the roster with 1 year guys and position yourself for 2017 free agency. Feel like I've written this out 100 times now. Under no circumstances does Derozan need to be in the plan. NONE.

All teams need to spend at least 90% of their cap, otherwise the left over money just gets sent to the league. I do agree that worst comes to worst sign a B+/A- guy to a max money contract for 1 year just for hold over. I'd rather give Batum 25 mil for 1 yr than DeRozen for 5.

 

[comptonprince]

 
All teams need to spend at least 90% of their cap, otherwise the left over money just gets sent to the league. I do agree that worst comes to worst sign a B+/A- guy to a max money contract for 1 year just for hold over. I'd rather give Batum 25 mil for 1 yr than DeRozen for 5.

Barnes over both of them can play both F positions plus the Luke connection 

 

[willzway26]

Life as a Laker fan in 2016 I tell ya. Harrison Barnes could be our marquee free agent acquisition.

 

[MVP]

Doesn't even have to be a B level guy, fillers like Bass was this year would be fine.

You've addressed the major concerns at C and a 3&D wing, not brought in players that will hinder the playing time and development of the vaunted core and still given yourself flexibility for the following summer.

 

[essential1]

All 60 mil doesn't all have to be spent this summer don't know why you guys act like it has to be.

Whiteside is priority number 1. Bazemore or Barnes if all the other guys are of the table in addition to keeping the pick and call it a offseason. Fill out the rest of the roster with 1 year guys and position yourself for 2017 free agency. Feel like I've written this out 100 times now. Under no circumstances does Derozan need to be in the plan. NONE.

It kind of does, when you factor in that Clarkson's cap hold of $2.725mil is erased, and then becomes around $12mil-15mil according to Tom Ziller. So if you were to only go after Whiteside & Baze.. You essentially used your cap anyway.


Whiteside - $21 mil
Bazemore - $18mil
Clarkson ~ $13.5mil
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$52.5mil


That's not including Tarik Black. Who won't be getting a bunch of money, but a few mil, nonetheless.

And that's only if we release Nick Young. If we keep Nick Young, it's only $57mil



Unless you go after just Whiteside. Where you're leaving $20+ mil in cap to just the type of moves we've been making the past 3 years... You pretty much should use all the cap space.

 

[fun guy]

Barnes is a nice player. But how much do you pay a guy that's never PER higher than our rookie PG? Can't underpay him cause GS will just match. If we're not careful, a big contract to Barnes could be worse than maxing DeRozen.

 

[willzway26]

Remember a year ago when we said we overpaid Kobe 25 mil a year? Oh how the times have changed

 

[MVP]

So our cap number without the cap holds is 23 million right now. Projected cap is 90 million this summer. Adding 53 mil in salary brings you to 76. 90-76 is 14 mil. Maybe 10 with the 6 cap holds at that point. Fill out the rest of the roster with 1 year deals, you add that 10 mil to the 18 when it jumps in 2018, you have enough for a max player with maybe one guy to be moved or just stretching out Nick.

 

[fun guy]

About that...there's really no way we can be as bad as we were the past couple years. We paid max money to a guy who didn't play, and gambled on  $15 mil players hoping to revive their careers (and didn't). That's 2/3rds of our cap going to nothing the last 2 years.  If we just pay guys who are even remotely worth what they're paid...if we screw this up 

 

[MVP]

Remember a year ago when we said we overpaid Kobe 25 mil a year? Oh how the times have changed

It's hilarious, now they want to give it to what amounts to the washed version of him.

 

[CP1708]

People don't want DeRozan, but want Bazemore or Harrison Barnes??????




Yeesh.


If Durant really wanted GS, we'd at least have a shot at Barnes and Ezeli, if no Durant, GS matchin both of em.

 

[CP1708]

Remember a year ago when we said we overpaid Kobe 25 mil a year? Oh how the times have changed

Hmmmmm, 36, comin off a torn achilles, during a rebuild, and after 18 full seasons. And a 65+ million cap vs soon to be 92 million cap.

Yes, very similar situations now, way to analyze the situations thoroughly.

 

[youngwolf]

I wouldn't mind seeing Hendo here next year.

 

[essential1]

$23.126mil on Lou, Swaggy, DLo, Randle, Nance, A. Brown

Assume we get Lucky on Lottery Night.

$6.7mil ($5.9mil for # 1 (120% on rookie scale) and $845K for # 32)

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$29.826mil

+ $21mil for Whiteside
+ 18mil for Bazemore
+13.5mil for Clarkson

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$82.326mil for 11 players

+ 1mil for Huertas
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$83.326mil for 12 players
+ 3mil for Tarik Black
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$86.326 mil


That leaves $22.7mil in cap space for 2017. $24.5mil if you release Nick after next season.

Then you have to factor in you likely end up losing $4mil in salary cap raises of Randle, Russell, Whiteside, Bazemore & Clarkson.


But when Whiteside & Bazemore have trouble... Because who is your # 1 scorer? Certainly would be better. But they will struggle significantly. 2017 Free Agency will come and pass as well. Especially if Durant lines up with Westbrook and takes a 1+1. The presumption is they will take their exodus together, and you'll be competing with good teams for Free Agents again.



Clarkson's RFA gives you a great position to strike now. Letting him take up the cap will hamper the team long term. Maybe there is a small sliver of hope that he + whatever the pick come February may get you something. Hopefully. Maybe.

 

[MVP]

I don't really care about the number one scorer at this point, collectively they'll be able to score enough, with an improved system and no Kobe = more shots for everybody. I know for certain I do not want Derozan to be that guy though. Clarkson can be moved as well after he signs at the trade deadline as well Lou Williams to alleviate that cap situation. I don't think anybody next summer will have the space to get both Russ and KD sans for OKC so they'll have to split up. Bottom line you want a number 1 scorer which isn't really important right now it's Westbrook over Derozan 10 outta 10 times.

 

[essential1]

Has very little to do with Number 1 scorer.

Has to do with making the team better.. And making the team more attractive in Free Agency.

As for saying DeRozan has no pull whatsoever on players in Free Agency is just basing it because you don't like the player. He isn't KD. Or LeBron. Obviously. But he's still an all-star, who we hear nothing about him being unliked in NBA.

If you were to say Dwight Howard no longer has pull in Free Agency, then that's something we can tangibly put value on.

Signing an All-Star like DeMar entering his prime (while there are better options, I agree. He isn't my first choice, nor is DeMar the first guy I'd go after). Him signing with us, is actually still a good thing for the franchise. You'd get an all-star entering his prime. That will have pull. Team will improve. Which is also good in Free Agency.

You want signs that the team is going in the right direction. DeMar DeRozan would be something tangible.


Let's put it this way, you sign Kent Bazemore, not only are you getting a player that isn't nearly as good as DeMar.... Granted better 3 point shooter, and a better defender. DeMar is the better overall player. Highlights how much of a gap there is on offense between the two outside of Kent, who is a good, but not great 3 point shooter. And decent, but not great defender. But also, the pull Bazemore has on Free Agents is pretty much nothing.

If you're Hassan Whiteside... Bazemore isn't moving the needle at all. It could even hurt. If it's DeMar, there's a lot more to consider.

Bazemore is also same age as DeMar.

So when you get into a bidding war with the Hawks over Kent Bazemore or some other nonsense team that has cap space and no one to spend on, and Hassan Whiteside laughs and stays in Miami for a couple mil less a year than max.

Have fun with that.

 

[MVP]

That's fine. I'm still not taking Derozan, he's not making the team better and as for his appeal to others, I don't know how many ppl want to go play with a chucker that does nothing else.

Hell I'm expecting them to whiff on the other guys anyway which would make offering Derozan even worse.

 

[SORIANOTRON]

Derozan can score 20+ points a night so.....

he would absolutely make this team better....we need a scorer.

hes a WAAAAAAAY more consistent scorer than our #1 wing scorer JC....

+ demar can play solid D and hes tall enough to gaurd 1-3

JC be having problems with 1-2

he can actually get a bucket when we NEED 1....a GO TO scorer in "need a bucket situations'.

We dont have that yet, JC aint that....D russ aint tthere yet.

Demar is ready to go now, just entering his prime....hes peaking I think hes still got room to grow.

He's a vet with legit playoff experience....but he aint no OLD HEAD....young cats gonna follow his lead.

Hes done alot for playing in TORONTO, imagine if he had the resources and personnel we have here in LA....

I love JC keep him, he makes us deeper, but demar makes us better.

 

[MVP]

Derozan can score 20+ points a night so.....

he would absolutely make this team better....we need a scorer.

hes a WAAAAAAAY more consistent scorer than our #1 wing scorer JC....

+ demar can play solid D and hes tall enough to gaurd 1-3

JC be having problems with 1-2

he can actually get a bucket when we NEED 1....a GO TO scorer in "need a bucket situations'.

We dont have that yet, JC aint that....D russ aint tthere yet.

Demar is ready to go now, just entering his prime....hes peaking I think hes still got room to grow.

He's a vet with legit playoff experience....but he aint no OLD HEAD....young cats gonna follow his lead.

Hes done alot for playing in TORONTO, imagine if he had the resources and personnel we have here in LA....

LOL have you watched this guy in the postseason. I'm sure JC can get 20 if he gets 17 shots a game. A solid defender, Derozan? Yea you've never seen him play.

 

[SORIANOTRON]

I been watching his whole career.

Hes the player we hope JC to be one day, but now.

 

[MVP]

I seriously doubt that if that's your assessment of him. I hope JC is far more than a chucker but that's just me.

The majority of Raptor fans would love to see him go, they know he doesn't impact winning despite his stats.

 

[SORIANOTRON]

6'7 shooting gaurd >>>>>> 6'4 combo gaurd?


remember fellas theres only ONE russel westbrook.