MAKING A MURDERER | Season 2 on October 19th!

[quise2024]

So youre telling me the same kid who didnt know 300 feet and 300 yards werent the same, and didnt know what inconsistent meant .. can come up with a 3 by 3 foot statement?

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/making...y-confession-viewers-didnt-see-170000845.html

Hmmmmmmm......

Hmmm what?

Not sure what this "missing" piece of confession proves. That he answers the same questions like he does in the doc, after the iterrogator leads him to each step.

-All this taking place late afternoon, where it appears that other people are around the Avery place in the timeline. Brendan hears screams outside the place but no one else did?

-Brendan goes in to rape her, no screams? Same Brendan who was obviously a virgin, dumped by a 1st ever gf so he decided to lose weight because he thought he was fat.

-5 gun shots? 1 bullet days later??.. Did they ever find residue on SA's hands? Or was this when he was wearing gloves after smearing his blood in the car, but carefully not leaving fingerprints on the door handle steering wheel etc?

- so Brendan couldnt watch stuff like that (TH getting shot, but he could watch her being raped and stabbed)?

-What about the throat slitting?

-Seems like her mouth was never covered since she was asking all these questions to them about why they did this to her, but she never screamed for help?

Brendan says she screams but i mean i can only assume this only reaction to what theyre doing since its the only time she screams. Shes carried from the trailer to the garage to her car back to the garage




Anyways like ive said before idk who did it. Maybe they couldve maybe they didnt. This so called missing pieces of his confession just sound like the same ole stuff like in the doc. His details come after he's lead down a certain path




SA is not the smartest man himself but after being wrongfully convicted you would have to think someone would be smart enough not to murder someone the day they are scheduled to come to your house and take pictures.




All this whole thing needs for the big conspiracy is someone else to confess, Avery and Dassey freed, and/or Halbach is found living well off somewhere under a diff name

 

[abubakr shaheed]

fan of daddario since the show white collar ..

ex boyfriend and brother are involved, i felt that way since they showed the clips of them leading the search parties. felt so staged.

the overarching feeling i get is if SA murdered hallbach, how could he be so meticulous on some fronts, and so careless on others- cleaning up DNA in the trailer & garage, but leaving obvious blood stains in the car. he burned the body to fragments, but didn't use the car crusher to get rid of the vehicle or the key

 

[cpf262]

So youre telling me the same kid who didnt know 300 feet and 300 yards werent the same, and didnt know what inconsistent meant .. can come up with a 3 by 3 foot statement?
Hmmm what?

Not sure what this "missing" piece of confession proves. That he answers the same questions like he does in the doc, after the iterrogator leads him to each step.

-All this taking place late afternoon, where it appears that other people are around the Avery place in the timeline. Brendan hears screams outside the place but no one else did?

-Brendan goes in to rape her, no screams? Same Brendan who was obviously a virgin, dumped by a 1st ever gf so he decided to lose weight because he thought he was fat.

-5 gun shots? 1 bullet days later??.. Did they ever find residue on SA's hands? Or was this when he was wearing gloves after smearing his blood in the car, but carefully not leaving fingerprints on the door handle steering wheel etc?

- so Brendan couldnt watch stuff like that (TH getting shot, but he could watch her being raped and stabbed)?

-What about the throat slitting?

-Seems like her mouth was never covered since she was asking all these questions to them about why they did this to her, but she never screamed for help?

Brendan says she screams but i mean i can only assume this only reaction to what theyre doing since its the only time she screams. Shes carried from the trailer to the garage to her car back to the garage




Anyways like ive said before idk who did it. Maybe they couldve maybe they didnt. This so called missing pieces of his confession just sound like the same ole stuff like in the doc. His details come after he's lead down a certain path




SA is not the smartest man himself but after being wrongfully convicted you would have to think someone would be smart enough not to murder someone the day they are scheduled to come to your house and take pictures.




All this whole thing needs for the big conspiracy is someone else to confess, Avery and Dassey freed, and/or Halbach is found living well off somewhere under a diff name

Just saying its interesting thats all.... Lots of new info coming out from both sides...still not convinced either way but definitely believe his guilt was pushed by them.

 

[quise2024]

ex boyfriend and brother are involved, i felt that way since they showed the clips of them leading the search parties. felt so staged.

the overarching feeling i get is if SA murdered hallbach, how could he be so meticulous on some fronts, and so careless on others- cleaning up DNA in the trailer & garage, but leaving obvious blood stains in the car. he burned the body to fragments, but didn't use the car crusher to get rid of the vehicle or the key

Agree with you on the sense i have a feeling they may be in on something. I still can never get over the fact in her weird if i die video and her voicemail pw they guessed its about her sisters. Its like the brother didnt exist, dude never was sad until sentencing. Ex NEVER seemed upset at all

And agree 100% about the clean up. Its like they were so precise about everything hard stuff and careless with the easier things.

Just saying its interesting thats all.... Lots of new info coming out from both sides...still not convinced either way but definitely believe his guilt was pushed by them.

My bad wasnt coming at you

 

[mac2008]

Brendan's first interview at the school. Clearly wasn't forced or fed this story. It's clear Brendan lied over the course of his confessions. This is completely normal, people minimize their involvement during confessions. I can find reputable sources to show that, but I'm sure most people are aware of this. This is his first confession and he admits to seeing a body 10-15 mins into the interview. Boy he sure had it rough there.

Please tell me how this means nothing because he ended up changing his story or it's not the last timeline prosecutors used lol. Point his he admitted his involvement minutes into his first confession. He said he was involved because he was so dumb right ?

https://www.docdroid.net/2KmgtSR/mishicothstranscript.pdf.html

 

[darthdeezy]

Just finished Episode 2.
The sheriffs searching his car lot house looking at the letter for exonerated convicts luncheon then snickering and saying "he's not gonna be able to make it" smh

Then looking at all of Avery's work boots and saying they should take some to add footprints to any unsolved mysteries. Smh

Yeah, still got a long way to go.
Binge watching.

 

[ideezy1023]

After reading through some of these pages and watching. It seems as if Scott and the older brother probably committed the crime and Brendan seen or heard something and he was covering for them out of fear. Also seems odd that Dassey was found guilty of the same charges Steven was found not guilty on. The only way I see them getting out is someone coming out straight confessing.

 

[Cashflow]

 

[NickFolarin]

So what is the consensus in the thread? Is Steven & Brenden innocent or guilty? 

 

[mac2008]

I've seen many questions on here about the EDTA test. Here are the complete transcripts.

Here is the answer to common ?'s

1. Was the vial tested?
A. Yes, of course. I don't know why this was ever in question.

2. Did they have a threshold?
A. Yes, it shows the detection limit from the test. The doc showed the defense expert who seemed to question this. The documents show they had a clear limit.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xo723hh1lqbbhcc/AACO_Htf8YDYNYQ0FQlwvq40a?dl=0

 

[calibeebee]

So what is the consensus in the thread? Is Steven & Brenden innocent or guilty? 

I'm saying guilty. But consensus in these parts is 95% in favor of not guilty.

 

[earldagoat]

 "I would like to personally admonish you for continuing to publish inaccurate information and for fueling the threats we continue to receive. Why don’t you take the time to thoroughly investigate ALL the readily available information before you publish your articles? I hope you are proud of the fact that you felt it was necessary to publish private information about Mr. Lenk’s residence, as he is now a citizen in poor health trying to live a quiet life away from this media circus. You should be ashamed of yourself. You know all these allegations against Mr. Lenk, myself and our agency are totally false, yet you continue to support these lies and exacerbate the problems they cause. Try and imagine if something serious happens to one of us or to a member of our families because of all the completely distorted and slanted information that is being published by subjects like yourself. Your lack of responsibility and your bias is appalling. I know the truth doesn’t sell newspapers as much as lies and controversy, but for once try thinking about the consequences of the slander and defamation that you are authoring and participating in. A word of caution, be careful what you wish for. If Steven Avery is ever freed, he may just become your neighbor, and he may want to bring his nephew with him."

- Lt. Andrew Colborn  

http://www.htrnews.com/story/news/lo...very/79013356/

 

[Benny Hinn]

So what is the consensus in the thread? Is Steven & Brenden innocent or guilty? 

I'm saying guilty. But consensus in these parts is 95% in favor of not guilty.

Aint even about that. They deserve a fair and unbias retrial. Fams never had a chance

 

[Benny Hinn]

This happened locally. Their conviction was overturned a few years ago but finally received their settlement today. Dude on right had a concrete alibi. No physical evidence. Just a lying witness. 34 years down the drain

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Tuesday, January 19, 2016 06:45PM
LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- The Los Angeles City Council agreed to pay $24.3 million to settle two wrongful conviction lawsuits on Tuesday.

The lawsuits were filed by Kash Delano Register and Bruce Lisker, who each served more than 25 years in prison for murders they did not commit.

Register will receive $16.7 million for serving 34 and a half years in prison after he was wrongfully convicted of killing a man in West Los Angeles in 1979 when he was 18.

His conviction was overturned in 2013 after his attorneys argued that testimony in his favor had been withheld and there was no credible physical evidence against him.

The council also approved a $7.6 million payout to Lisker who served 26 years in prison after being wrongfully convicted in 1985 of murdering his mother.

His mother, Dorka Lisker, was found stabbed and beaten to death in their Sherman Oaks home in 1983 when he was 17.

Bruce Lisker's conviction was overturned in 2009 after a judge declared prosecutors had presented false evidence.

 

[dathbgboy]

I've noticed that everyone from Wisconsin says "It was all over the news, they left out evidence, he's guilty" Just goes to show how powerful the media is. I'm not a detective, lawyer, judge, etc. but I just can't wrap my head around the evidence and lack thereof to fully commit and say "he's guilty"

 

[abubakr shaheed]

this is a couple weeks old, so perhaps it was already posted/discussed

http://www.businessinsider.com/making-a-murderer-theories-about-teresa-halbach-2016-1

in particular this portion of the article

In a now-deleted Reddit post, a user references a blog post from 2009 written by a man named Brian McCorkle, which describes a woman living right outside the Avery family's property at the time of the murders. Estranged from her erratic, sometimes violent, fire-obsessed husband, whose last name was "German," the woman discovered that he'd visited her home (near the Avery compound) on the day of Teresa Halbach's murder, Oct. 31, 2005. "He [German] visited the Maribel area and had stopped at the rental before the lease began. He spoke of visiting an auto salvage yard. He commented that a woman wanted to take pictures of the rental property ... and he felt that the photographer was 'stupid.'"

After this incident, the woman discovered that "her husband had scratches on his back and a cut finger that bled intermittently." Later, upon seeing a missing persons flyer showing Teresa Halbach, German remarked "she's dead." Following other suspicious incidents, the woman called the Manitowoc County Sheriff's Department, who arrested and charged her husband with disorderly conduct and resisting an officer.

In November 2005, the same woman discovered a number of suspicious items in German's home: bloody women's panties, fresh bones, a can of lighter fluid with bloody fingerprints, a mason's hammer covered in dark red flecks, graphic pornographic magazines, and surgical gloves. After reporting these things to the Manitowoc County Sheriff's Department during another of her husband's frightening episodes (for which he was arrested), the police rebuffed her by claiming that Teresa's clothing had already been accounted for and that the panties likely belonged to a child. However, the woman continued to believe that her husband was involved with Halbach's disappearance after moving cross-country to get away from him — and Teresa's clothes, supposedly accounted for by the police, were never presented as court evidence.

link to the blog post: http://www.convolutedbrian.com/an-alternative.html

 

[QU!K]

http://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/q-and-a/a33352/angenette-levy-making-a-murderer-reporter/

 

[shottadru]

The cop mentioning the type of car when he called in the license plate is extremely fishy.

Also where is the blood?

What was his motive? If he was able to "hide" the blood, "destroy" most of the body why wouldn't he destroy the car? Just so many gaps it really looks like a setup.

 

[mac2008]

http://stevenaverycase.com/what-making-a-murderer-didnt-tell-you/#sthash.IhsLrEvd.dpbs

 

[evolution fight]

http://stevenaverycase.com/what-making-a-murderer-didnt-tell-you/#sthash.IhsLrEvd.dpbs

your agenda is beyond see through at this point, can't take anything you post or link seriously

 

[mac2008]

http://stevenaverycase.com/what-making-a-murderer-didnt-tell-you/#sthash.IhsLrEvd.dpbs

your agenda is beyond see through at this point, can't take anything you post or link seriously

That doesn't make sense but that's fine. I'm just sharing the info. Not writing it. Most of what I post comes straight from the trial. So not taking it seriously is ignoring truth. But more and more stuff is becoming well known and people are seeing the truth. That's what I was trying to share. Even people in this thread are coming around which is saying a lot, if you saw it a couple weeks ago. So go ahead don't take my links seriously. The truth is coming out and all over media now.

 

[macbk]

A Cold Case Expert Thinks ‘Making A Murderer’ May Be Tied To One Of The Most Prolific Serial Killers Ever

Here are some things that may make you go hmmm when considering Cameron’s theory that Edwards killed Halbach:

• Several of Edward Wayne Edwards’ past victims were murdered on Halloween night. Teresa Halbach disappeared on Halloween night.
• Edwards had killed in Wisconsin before: In 1980, Edwards mudered Timothy Hack and Kelly Drew in what was later dubbed the Sweetheart Slayings.
• Edwards was living about an hour away from Steven Avery at the time of the murder.
• Avery’s new lawyer Kathleen Zellner has already freed one of the men wrongfully convicted of a crime Cameron attributes to Ed Edwards – Ryan Ferguson spent nearly 10 years in jail for the death of Columbia Daily Tribune sports editor Kent Heith. That murder went down on Halloween night.
• Edwards has a history of showing up at funerals and trials of his victims. Cameron contends he’s been caught on camera doing this a few times, appearing in the background of a documentary on the West Memphis Three. As for the Halbach case, take a look at someone Cameron noticed in episode six of Making A Murderer:

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[essential1]

Although that is interesting... Almost everybody at that trial has that shape of the guy who may be the serial killer standng behind Kratz

 

[Olympus]

this is a couple weeks old, so perhaps it was already posted/discussed

http://www.businessinsider.com/making-a-murderer-theories-about-teresa-halbach-2016-1

in particular this portion of the article
link to the blog post: http://www.convolutedbrian.com/an-alternative.html

http://stevenaverycase.com/what-making-a-murderer-didnt-tell-you/#sthash.IhsLrEvd.dpbs

Both of these sources are really interesting. Disproving the vial angle was shocking to me. I didn't even know. The bit about the tooth fragments and jean buttons in the pit is crazy too. A lot of the information on that site is startling if all true. But then there's still so many questions to me.

As Buting stated, why no markings on the bedposts or blood in the bedroom? If she was killed in the garage, how in the hell did Avery clean up gun spatter to that magnitude in as a cluttered an environment as that as to not leave a trace? I also call into question a lot of the Manitowoc county's actions. There's so many discrepancies in the stories and what actually happened.

Still have two more episodes to go. Avery seemed 100% not guilty to me, but other information has me leaning another way.

 

[Cashflow]

http://stevenaverycase.com/what-making-a-murderer-didnt-tell-you/#sthash.IhsLrEvd.dpbs
That doesn't make sense but that's fine. I'm just sharing the info. Not writing it. Most of what I post comes straight from the trial. So not taking it seriously is ignoring truth. But more and more stuff is becoming well known and people are seeing the truth. That's what I was trying to share. Even people in this thread are coming around which is saying a lot, if you saw it a couple weeks ago. So go ahead don't take my links seriously. The truth is coming out and all over media now.

Honestly at this point no one cares anymore to go back and forth with you. I don't it's "people coming around." Your fact is he is guilty and everytime you've said you made your final point, there's always a new post from you "just providing facts"