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My question is why did bishop punch EZ in his grill for bringing up the BTT Samoan tat?

His brother is the traitor not bishop. I would think the prez would want to know all the info, maybe he just didn't want it said in front of Galindo?

I'm really tryna see what the cartel did to EZ and his pops that ruined their lives. Why did he kill a cop?
 
enlightenedespot said:
My question is why did bishop punch EZ in his grill for bringing up the BTT Samoan tat?

His brother is the traitor not bishop. I would think the prez would want to know all the info, maybe he just didn't want it said in front of Galindo?

I'm really tryna see what the cartel did to EZ and his pops that ruined their lives. Why did he kill a cop?
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it sounded like he killed the cop to protect the brother?
 
I think he punched him because he knew the cartel boss would force them to go after the samoan gang. As a prospect, his job is to follow orders and keep quiet.

I remember them saying that it was like lambs going to the slaughter if they didnt have any back up.... Speaking of that, I'm mad the Samoan gang didn't put up any real fight even though they had a nice advantage. How the heck you don't drop any Mayans when you're in the middle of a graveyard and your automatic weapons are already in hand? Plus you got a phone call from one of the lookouts smh.
 
How 'Mayans MC' Just Set the Stage For a Major 'Sons of Anarchy' Crossover
An unexpected cameo paves the way for an even greater connection between 'Sons' and 'Mayans.'

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[This story contains spoilers for the series premiere of FX's Mayans MC, "Perro/Oc," as well as major spoilers through the Sons of Anarchy series finale.]

Less than thirty minutes into its opening episode (commercial breaks notwithstanding), Mayans MC introduces one of the most iconic characters from Sons of Anarchy lore — and this person's unexpected appearance may pave the way for similarly surprising sightings.

While Kurt Sutter and Elgin James' new biker drama exists in the same Sons universe Sutter launched in 2008 and ended in 2014, Mayans MC focuses on an entirely separate corner of the world populated by an entirely new set of characters… well, almost entirely new. There's one obvious crossover character in the form of Mayans founder Marcus Alvarez, played by Emilio Rivera, who first played the character all the way back in theSons of Anarchy pilot. An additional Sons alum shows up later in the series premiere: Robert Patrick's Les Packer, the president of the San Bernardino chapter of the Sons of Anarchy, who appeared previously in the sixth and seventh seasons of Sons.


With all due respect to both men, Alvarez and Packer's inclusion in Mayans pales in comparison to the biggest crossover character of the episode: the legendary Gemma Teller Morrow, the Sons of Anarchy matriarch played by Katey Sagal. For anyone who skipped the series premiere, but has a working knowledge of Sons of Anarchy— especially the final few episodes — Gemma's appearance in Mayans is bound to cause some confusion. In context, it makes much more sense, and even opens the door for a full-on Sons of Anarchy reunion.

Little more than midway through "Perro/Oc," the first episode of Mayans, viewers are tossed back in time to an earlier period in protagonist Ezekiel "EZ" Reyes' life. Though he was once on a fast track toward a bright future, EZ's life was upended when he was arrested for killing a police officer, the exact circumstances of which remain unclear. According to a title card, the flashback scene takes place eight years before the present narrative. In the scene, EZ's then girlfriend Emily (Sarah Bolger) visits the Mayans hero in prison, a tense encounter that ends with a dramatic twist: Emily is pregnant with EZ's child, which she only reveals after he breaks off their relationship. Once she leaves, EZ becomes unhinged, attacking prison guards in a desperate attempt to get Emily to return and discuss their child's future. All the while, there's a surprise guest who witnesses the action: Gemma, sitting by herself, clearly waiting to visit with one of EZ's fellow inmates.

As the prison guards drag EZ away, Gemma utters a single word: "*******s." With that, we're tossed back into the present, with nothing more from Gemma than that one vulgarity — a rather tame vulgarity at that, given Gemma's typically colorful prose.

The cameo from Sagal, who is married to Mayans co-creator Sutter, only makes sense in a flashback context, given Gemma's death near the end of Sons of Anarchy; a return from the grave in the modern day Mayans story would be a shark jump that even the Mayans motorcycle club couldn't complete. It's a fun nod to fans of Sons, but it's not just a whimsical easter egg, as Gemma's appearance in this specific context places EZ within the world of several members of the original Sons of Anarchy cast. In addition to placing the scene eight years earlier, the title card reveals the location of EZ's imprisonment: Stockton State Prison, a facility that housed numerous members of SAMCRO for fourteen months in between the events of seasons three and four.

The full list, as well as their status through the end of Sons of Anarchy:

• Tig Trager (Kim Coates) and Happy Lowman (David Labrava), both alive through the Sons series finale;

• Juice Ortiz (Theo Rossi), eventually killed in the final season by Marilyn Manson's Ron Tully;

• Bobby "Elvis" Munson (Mark Boone Junior), shot to death after a significant stretch of torture and imprisonment;

• Clay Morrow (Ron Perlman), the Sons' longtime president who was eventually replaced and later killed in season six by…

• Jax Teller (Charlie Hunnam), star of the show, killed in the final moments of the Sons finale.

Timing-wise, Jax and his allies' stint in Stockton lines up with the Mayans premiere's prison scene, set "eight years ago." The Sons were in Stockton for a 14-month stretch in between the series' third season in 2010 and the fourth season in 2011, which more or less perfectly aligns with at least some of EZ's time in prison. Beyond seeing Gemma again in another visitation scene, is it possible Mayans could feature a scene in which EZ interacts with some of the original stars of Sons of Anarchy, despite their eventual deaths? If nothing else, the timing works out.

For his part, speaking at the Television Critics Association's summer press tour, Sutter mused on the possibilities presented by the Gemma-filled flashback scene: "It was a way of letting us know that [EZ was] in Stockton, where those two worlds can ultimately perhaps collide, at least in memory." Asked if it paved the way for deceased Sons of Anarchy characters to show up in flashback form, Sutter answered, "In flashbacks, perhaps, yes."

"We're playing the real time of Jax's demise and the impact that it sort of had on the outlaw community," he continued. "I don't want to mess with that mythology. So I feel like any characters we deal with in real time are sort of auxiliary characters that there can be points of intersection without perhaps suggesting any sort of direction or history that continued with the Sons, so that that idea, that memory, that mythology can kind of live on in people's imaginations. But, yes, absolutely in flashback where we wouldn't be sort of stepping on what's happening now, there might be opportunity to do that."

In other words, don't get too excited about seeing the classic Sons roster on Mayans MC anytime soon… but before all is said and done on the new biker drama? Not off the table. Indeed, the odds of a Jax Teller sighting by the end of Mayans MC's run are certainly higher than one would have expected heading into premiere night.
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enlightenedespot said:
My question is why did bishop punch EZ in his grill for bringing up the BTT Samoan tat?
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Probably because he was a prospect, and waited until then to bring that up. He should have brought it up earlier, so then the he could decide if he wanted to reveal the information. It took him from being in control and forced them to go at the Samoans.
 
So I still need to watch the first ep but this Ezekiel dude is a snitch for the Feds to take down Galindo meanwhile this her member is a traitor also to Galindo for this rebel group?

Man, I liked the 2nd ep and haven't seen anything I dislike about Galindo yet so I hope he burns both these rats alive.

I mean you kidnap my kid and everybody dying.

Such traitorous activity on these shows as of late.
 
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fight choreography sucks

that fight in the clinic (?) ez's fist aint come nowhere close to dudes face

wonder what the significance of the scorpion is for the ep?

burned that father and son, ruthless

coco sister doin porn and his mom is a prosti damn

that dude that told him was in something before i cant think of what, maybe training day?

the stranger things shout out

chucky!!

i think every ep gonna have a cameo

and by the time this show over every latin actor will have made an appearance

suttery got me tho im all in after this ep
 
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hand2handking said:
and by the time this show over every latin actor will have made an appearance
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:lol: Wasn't gonna say anything but I'm just waiting for Benjamin Bratt, Judy Reyes, and Jimmy Smits to show up.

Also most likely all the Hispanics on Snowfall.
 
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Watching e1 now.

Still don't feel sorry for EZ, still a rat.

This white girl dumb. Ya bf gets sent up for 20 and he breaks it off with you so your next choice is some damn cartel leader?

Yo this shootout with the Samoans was too long :lol: Where are the police?

This cgi :rofl:

Damn that poverty dog. Hope it's not ananorexoc wolf.

I gave up on SoA but I think I'll stick with this.
 
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I like the way this cartel leader is handling business. He doesn't come off as a bad guy. I think his advisor lied about how his brother died in episode 2 just to get him to kill that father and son. It's like they're trying to put that battery in his back so that he becomes heartless.

I like that this rebel faction is trying to rid Mexico of drugs, but kidnapping a cartel leaders child has to be stupid as heck. Why not just gather up guns and take the fight to the boss man?

Was the woman running the "dog pound" actually a He She?
 
Episode 2 was better

I don't see how the main character survives all of this

But I will keep watching
 
i was reading on reddit someone made a parallel between the cartel leader and jax

After this episode a crazy thought came through my head. Miguel Galindo is like the antithesis of Jax. A bizarro, upside down version (pun intended haha).

The subtle and not so subtle parallels are there. You've got the whole living in his father's shadow angle. His dad built the cartel similar to how JT founded the Sons. Little Galindo was ivy league educated, meaning that he left the family and the cartel business and then came back in after whatever happened to his father. Jax never really escaped the Charming/club bubble. This is like the opposite of Jax being born and bred into the club lifestyle and then only really considering going away from it all only at the end.

His marriage with Emily is kind of like a reverse parallel of the Jax and Wendy marriage, if she didn't get involved with the crank and they lived like one big happy family. The strong matriarch character, Dita, is like a reverse Gemma-lite where instead of fighting to keep her son, she was willing to sacrifice and move on. By the way, the whole naming the son after the brother, just like Jax's naming his son after his brother Thomas! The kidnapping is shades of Abel, and then the doubling down of retaliation, following the right hand man, Devante, choosing the old ways of the cartel rather than finding his own way and making his own decisions. I don't think Jax would have done something like this. But then again, maybe I'm reaching with a lot of this. Trying to make comparisons so that it fits. IDK.
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imasoleman18 said:
the CGI is awful cant even get a real scorpion come on
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It's pathetic cuz all it did was crawl around. Like stop looking for things to waste your budget on.

They could've got a real scorpion for half of what they paid and put it in front of a green screen if they couldn't manage a real scorpion in the actual desert.

I saw some of the same shoddy cgi on Shameless with a rat but at least they had it simulate sex with another rat and then had a car run it over.
 
idk how long Miguel can last as head of the Galindo Cartel, especially since it looks like he doesn't have Romeo (Danny Trejo) and the military arm side holding it down now. That head of security they got Nestor doesn't seem like he can hold it down imo. Miguel almost seems like he wasnt groomed his whole life to take over the family business and more like he just got his MBA from Cornell and then unexpectedly took over the Galindo Cartel
 
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