Mayor Bloombergs doomsday budget: your thoughts nyc nters?

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Any of yall heard about this smh...thousands of city jobs to be lost...80 percent teaching....a quarter increase on the nyc sales tax....mta...cable...etcgoing up
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at this point...I'm just waiting for the mayor to tell people hey...either you have to be very rich...or super poor to stayhere....there's no place for the common working man.
 
Originally Posted by iwhohavenothing

at this point...I'm just waiting for the mayor to tell people hey...either you have to be very rich...or super poor to stay here....there's no place for the common working man anyone else.
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And *@%+ Bloomberg.
 
Bloomberg doesn't care about the average New Yorker and its a damn shame. I hope he doesn't get re-elected for a third term.

There was an article in Reuters that said that NYC may be headed back to the NY of the 70s, which is not good at all.

[h1]New York City fears return to 1970s[/h1]
Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:48pm EST

By Joan Gralla

NEW YORK (Reuters) - While many U.S. cities worry that their economies are deteriorating to the level of the 1930s Great Depression, New York City fears reliving a more recent decade that features strongly in city lore.

The 1970s were a low point in city history as a fiscal crisis almost pushed it into bankruptcy, crime rates soared, and homeless people crowded sidewalks as public services crumbled.

Almost a million people fled New York's Mean Streets during the decade for the safer, more stable suburbs, a population decline that took more than 20 years to reverse.

When discussing the current crisis, Mayor Michael Bloomberg, now seeking a third term, promises that he will not allow the city to return to the darkness of those days, although he stresses that it faces "giant financial problems."

"I know some are concerned that city services will erode," he recently told reporters. "Let me remind you that the city went down that road in the 1970s ... I can just tell you that we are not going to make that mistake again."

But behind the rhetoric, there are signs of a city under growing stress, including a rise in homelessness that's driving more families to shelters and last year's 57 percent spike in bank robberies.

There were 444 bank robberies in 2008 compared with 283 in 2007, according to the city Police Department.

A Bank of America branch in Manhattan near Rockefeller Center said it has posted a sign asking its customers to remove sunglasses, hoods and hats before entering, one of the anti-crime measures the police department recommended.

As city revenues slide with the demise of Wall Street firms, the mayor, an independent, has slashed spending by all agencies and there's more to come.

The budget plan drawn up by New York State Governor David Paterson will cost the city $1.6 billion in cuts and force it to lay off thousands of police officers, firefighters and teachers, Bloomberg warned last week.

The mayor has already said he will cut $3.6 billion, or 6 percent, from next year's $60 billion budget.

SLIDING TAX REVENUE

Wall Street's financial industry is one of the city's biggest taxpayers but it has lost more than $36 billion in the last two years and may eventually shrink its work force by a quarter, the mayor said.

That will deprive the city of billions of dollars in lost tax revenues, including the mini-bonanzas it gets when securities firms pay bonuses every year.

Factoring in layoffs at the many service companies from law firms to shops that rely on Wall Street, the city could lose as many as 243,000 jobs from 2008 to 2010, economists say.

Meanwhile, raising funds has become harder for many states and cities around the nation as the tax-exempt bond market has been caught up in the broader financial market crisis.

Despite its high-credit status as semi-sovereign debt, the $2.7 trillion muni market has lost some of its biggest buyers -- banks, hedge funds and insurers. Many of them have lost money and need cash to shore up their balance sheets.

The collapse of Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns has returned the muni market to retail investors, its traditional client, but demand has been inconsistent.

Many individuals lost confidence in municipal bond insurers after their top ratings were slashed and were stung by last year's collapse of the auction-rate securities market.

New York City is one of the nation's premier issuers of municipal bonds and although capital markets have not temporarily locked it out as they have California, the city has slashed its average bond sales by a third. So instead of selling $1 billion at once, it now sells just $300 million.

Still, the city can take heart from its experience of previous downturns, according to Harrison Goldin, the Democrat who began his first of four terms as city comptroller in 1974.

New York "has proven time and time again its enormous resiliency," said Goldin, who left office in 1989 and opened a turnaround consulting firm.

"The city, obviously, is looking at a deteriorating economy and eroding revenues, but it has a full handle and grasp on the extent of the problems. As painful and difficult as they may be, it is in a position to act pre-emptively and to avoid ending up in the sewer."

There are more safeguards than before, perhaps most notably in helping the poor get health care. Dr. Unsup Kim of Elmhurst Hospital Center in Queens cited the development of trauma centers and programs for outpatients with chronic diseases as two key developments since he began running the public hospital's surgical department over 30 years ago.

Though narcotics-related violence has fallen and gunshot victims are more likely to survive, thanks to faster ambulatory times and medical advances, gangs can still be troublesome, Kim said. He cited the recent stabbing of an 18-year old in a fight that the patient said involved 20 people.

When the economy bloomed, Bloomberg was the nation's first politician to save money for public retirees' health care.

Monitors praise him for this and for improving high school graduation rates, cutting crime and refusing to sell assets to close budget holes. Investors eventually balked in the 1970s when the city was issuing debt to pay operating expenses.

But Bloomberg is faulted for granting city workers overly generous pay hikes and approving too many real estate developments that have fallen apart in the credit crunch.

Though Wall Street's misdeeds pushed the global economy to the brink, the mayor says the city needs its talent. So he aims to help these workers become entrepreneurs or learn green jobs. That will increase employment faster than pouring money into infrastructure, which is unlikely to offer openings to office workers and clerks, he said.
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Michael+Bloomberg
Mayor Bloomberg's bad-news budget tries to plug a $4 billion hole with less than $2 billion worth of spending cuts and new sales taxes - and counts on unions, Albany and the federal govermment to come up with the rest.

He proposed a $43.4 billion budget Friday for the fiscal year starting July 1, up $123 million from the year before - one that slices deep into the pockets of city residents and the ranks of city workers.

"Are we going to go through some difficult times? I don't think there's any question about that. But we have a plan to balance our budget," Bloomberg said. "It is serious, but I think it is manageable."

The new cuts and taxes come on top of $1 billion in cuts and $1.5 billion in tax hikes he already pushed through, as administration economists predict the national economy and Wall Street will continue to pummel the city's revenues.

The mayor's budget counts on city workers paying 10% toward the cost of their health benefits, raising $350 million, as well as $200 million more from reining in health costs.

While municipal unions have begun discussions with Bloomberg's labor team, it is unclear whether any such agreement can be reached.

Bloomberg also wants to cut services: 30 ambulance tours, one firefighter from each of 64 engine companies, homeless prevention and child care.

He wants to raise taxes and fees: charging 5 cents per plastic bag to raise $84 million, raising parking meter rates, issuing more fines to unsanitary restaurants, repealing the sales tax exemption on clothes and raising the sales tax another 1/4 of a percent.

And he wants to cut more jobs: 1,000 cops, 1,440 school employees, 167 seasonal Parks Department aides, 549 child welfare workers, and more than 14,000 teachers and classroom employees.

His plan calls for 22,919 fewer city jobs, of which only 7,686 would come from attrition. The other 15,233 employees would be simply laid off - including 13,930 Education Department employees.

"When you talk about reducing city expenditures, you are really talking about reducing headcount," Bloomberg said. "You can only get so much blood out of a stone."

In a bit of brinksmanship, Bloomberg laid the blame for those 14,000 teacher layoffs on Gov. Paterson's proposed budget, which cuts $771 million from city school spending.

While Bloomberg's budget counts on more than $1 billion in new Medicaid money from the federal stimulus bill, it does not count on more than $1 billion included for education.

Administration officials say they left that figure out because it will be routed through Albany, which may siphon some of the cash for itself.

Bloomberg's budget assumes that property tax revenues will rise 7.2%, as tax rates catch up with property values that have shot higher in recent years.

But taxes that depend on the economy - like income, sales and real estate transfer - are expected to fall 13.2%.

"Nobody prepared for the severity of the downturn that we have been experiencing," Bloomberg said.

"Nobody's ever seen a boom like this and nobody's ever seen a decline like this."

There is no easy relief in sight, either: Bloomberg's forecasters expect jobs, wages and taxes will keep falling this year and won't bottom out until sometime in 2010.

Almost 300,000 New Yorkers will have lost their jobs by the time the market bottoms out in mid-2010, down from the peak of 3,777,000 employed last fall.

That means a loss of $33 billion in wages this year and another $6 billion next year.

An estimated 46,000 of those jobs will come from Wall Street, which traditionally pays the fat salaries and bonuses that drive New York's economy - and its municipal budget.

http://www.nydailynews.co...ts_grim_economic_pic.html

damn shame
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Wow I can understand closing the gap by raising taxes a bit, but to lay off so many people, especially teachers...this is not a good look for NYC.
 
Originally Posted by SHUGES

Originally Posted by iwhohavenothing

at this point...I'm just waiting for the mayor to tell people hey...either you have to be very rich...or super poor to stay here....there's no place for the common working man anyone else.
Fixed.
And *@%+ Bloomberg.
 
Damn... so you mean to tell me there is about to be a MAD Exodus?

Does he realize New Yorkers FROM New York moving to other Major Cities will drive Violence up because of New Yorkers being abrasive with other folks.. and thisisnt meant to be funny.

Just like when New Orleans folks went to Houston and other cities driving crime up because of Gang Violence and such...

Crazy...
 
When the economy bloomed, Bloomberg was the nation's first politician to save money for public retirees' health care.

Monitors praise him for this and for improving high school graduation rates, cutting crime and refusing to sell assets to close budget holes. Investors eventually balked in the 1970s when the city was issuing debt to pay operating expenses.

But Bloomberg is faulted for granting city workers overly generous pay hikes and approving too many real estate developments that have fallen apart in the credit crunch.

Though Wall Street's misdeeds pushed the global economy to the brink, the mayor says the city needs its talent. So he aims to help these workers become entrepreneurs or learn green jobs. That will increase employment faster than pouring money into infrastructure, which is unlikely to offer openings to office workers and clerks, he said.


Bloomberg hasn't been all bad . . . i mean wall st tanked and NYC is a city that heavly relies on the tax dollars they generate . . . there is nothing elsehe can do except cut costs or raise taxes generate more revenue. I don't know . . .
 
relax, this only happens if it needs to be done
The state of ny had to come up with a doomsday budget in case of an emergency

as of right now, wait and see if it happens
 
Its not like its Burgs fault that we have such a huge budget gap, what choice does he have left at this point unfortunately.
 
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@ koudie.....this crisis has me rethinking my spending habits...I buy mcdonalds now and feel bad lol
 
Just when a +*!%! is about to go out on his own....I guess I'll be changing my major while I'm at it.
 
Originally Posted by iwhohavenothing

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@ koudie.....this crisis has me rethinking my spending habits...I buy mcdonalds now and feel bad lol
yeah man, the recession already had me cutting down on spending, but my income is strictly from the city budget, and we've already seencutbacks in the hours we can work. because of this, i've cut back even more.

i used to get the sushi lunch special from this spot a few blocks away from city hall, or from sophies
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these days, it's PB&J or turkey andcheese sandwiches from home with baby carrots and baked cheetos
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$10 a week on groceries for lunch FTW/FTL
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EDIT: (from today's post)
[h1]GLOOMY BLOOMY BRING$ THE PAIN[/h1] [h2]CUTS, TAX HIKES IN GRIM BUDGET[/h2] [h3]By DAVID SEIFMAN[/h3]
January 31, 2009
Posted: 2:32 am
January 31, 2009
Coping with a severe economic downturn, Mayor Bloomberg yesterday unveiled a bare-bones budget for next year that raises taxes and fees that will hit virtually all city residents while putting the squeeze on every city agency.

The city is in a jam because revenues are expected to tumble by $5 billion, or 13 percent, between 2008 and 2010, he explained in a detailed, 90-minute budget presentation at City Hall.

"You can only get so much blood out of a stone" with budget cuts and other measures, the mayor said.

He proposed closing a $4 billion budget gap in 2010 with $955 million in cuts and savings that reached into every agency - from the NYPD, which stood to lose another 1,000 cops through attrition, to the FDNY, which could see 12 companies vanish, to the child-welfare agency, which was asked to absorb 608 layoffs.

Also on the table: a 5-cent tax on plastic bags to bring in $84 million and an increase in parking-meter rates, along with jail visits shrinking from five days a week to four, nighttime morgue staff being downsized, ambulance tours being slashed, and parking-summons hearings taking place on fewer days.

The budget plan proposes reducing custodial service in schools. The city also might stop providing kits of household goods to homeless families transitioning into permanent housing. And 1,000 positions at the Administration for Children's Services, which deals with abused and neglected children, would be eliminated.

In a high-stakes nudge to Gov. Paterson, Bloomberg warned he would be forced to ax 14,272 teachers if the state doesn't pass along federal stimulus funds to make up for a $770 million cut in state education aid.

Overall, the mayor's plan envisions nearly 23,000 fewer city employees.

His $58.8 billion spending plan for 2010 also calls for boosting the sales tax from 8.375 to 8.625 percent, reinstituting the tax on all clothing purchases and piggybacking on Albany's plan to expand the sales tax to iPod downloads, theaters, cable-TV bills and other services.

If approved by the City Council and the state - and approval is by no means certain - the sales-tax hike would raise $894 million.

Critics demanded the mayor impose higher income taxes on the wealthy, but he indicated that choice wasn't really available to him.

"My assumption is that the state will dramatically increase the personal income tax only because of the magnitude of what I think their problem is," said Bloomberg, who met with Paterson Wednesday to discuss the budget.

Paterson spokesman Errol Cockfield insisted the mayor had no knowledge of a planned income-tax increase in the state budget, saying, "The governor and the mayor didn't discuss the personal income tax."

Both of the mayor's leading Democratic challengers, city Comptroller Bill Thompson and Rep. Anthony Weiner, warned that the sales-tax increase would fall disproportionately on the poor and middle class.

Bloomberg also got a chilly reception from labor leaders to proposals that would require current city workers to pay 10 percent of their health-care premiums to generate $350 million a year while new workers would enter a lower pension tier with reduced benefits.

If unions resist - which they have every year since the mayor took office in 2002 - Bloomberg said large-scale layoffs would inevitably follow.

Harry Nespoli, chairman of the Municipal Labor Committee, gave no sign that labor leaders were ready to budge.

"We cannot be placed in a position where wages are greatly diminished by new benefit costs we are asked to assume," he said in a statement.
 
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I feel you shape...I really need to start brown baging....seriously. I want to get to a point eventually where I only buy lunch 2 times a week
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itsgoing to be a lonnngg process though....because when I get home I don't wanna cook for +*+ lol.
 
Does he make like a million a day.. help out your city buddy.. you ARE the mayor and all...
 
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