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For you NBA heads out there that have been watching preseason games so far, what do you think about the replacement officials? Ive watched a couple games andwent to the Mavs game last Monday and it was pretty brutal. They called 64 fouls that resulted in 92 free throws and that isnt even the worse one.

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On Sunday, the 4[sup]th[/sup], Minnesota defeated Milwaukee 117-103. The replacement refs called 73 fouls which resulted in 94 total free throws.

Also on Sunday, the Knicks took down the Nets 115-107. There were 63 fouls in this game resulting in 91 free throws total.

On Monday, the Mavs hosted the Magic for their preseason opener. There were 64 fouls called in that game resulting in 92 free throws total. I was in attendance for this game and it seemed like it took forever!

Then, last night, the Rockets beat the Celtics 96-90. There were a total of 75 fouls resulting in 102 free throw attempts. 102!!! That is incredible.

From the Houston Chronicle:

We just watched 75 fouls and 102 free throws in one basketball game. OK, it's preseason. If you pay full price to watch these games, you're not too picky, anyway. But just as the teams learn all that must be corrected in time for the season, so must the league.


'Replacement refs' should become a euphemism for "preseason refs."

The league cannot go through real games like this.



I dont know about yall, but I do not want the regular season to be full of games that are stop and go and full of a bunch of foul calls. Stern needs to worksomething out with the normal refs.
 
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DWADE is going to shoot a 10,000 FTs this season.
 
They should work that out though - they're probably just a bit jittery to start off. Anyone would be.

I would be in favor of getting rid of a lot of the soft fouls though - I'm sure most people would much rather watch a game that keeps going rather thanstopping and starting. It should only be a foul if it actually affects the game - not just a bump in the periphery.
 
it's going to be a hectic season, although, the veteran officials last year still made an unbelievable amount of terrible calls. I guess I don't see itbeing THAT much worse with these replacement officials. I'm just curious to see how much the players try to intimidate these new guys where theywouldn't even dare with some of the vets.

also, pre-season is often called more heavily than reg season since the refs have to get their practice in, exercise the use of new or altered calls, etc. Iwouldn't try to judge too hard on what happens in PS. the season is just a couple weeks away though, can't wait! GO NUGS!
 
These replacement refs aren't taking any BS from players. Stephen Jackson got T'd up already in his first preseason game.
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Stephen Jackson got T'd up already in his first preseason game.
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So did Rasheed.
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It literally took less than 5 minutes before his first "BALL DON'T LIE" in a Celtics uniform.
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Originally Posted by JD617

Stephen Jackson got T'd up already in his first preseason game.
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So did Rasheed.
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It literally took less than 5 minutes before his first "BALL DON'T LIE" in a Celtics uniform.
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Hilarious!




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sheed my dude..hope he don't cost bos games cause of his attitude
 
There needs to be something done about the refs... replacement or not. Last year's playoffs were absolutely embarrassing. I couldn't watch some of thegames after the horrible calls.

So we're left with either inexperienced refs or the experienced ones who are also terrible.
 
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Stephen Jackson got T'd up already in his first preseason game.
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So did Rasheed.
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It literally took less than 5 minutes before his first "BALL DON'T LIE" in a Celtics uniform.
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I wouldn't have it any other way.
 
Pat Forde has been calling them trash on Twitter ..

I think they'll make some calls that will ruin games, people will complain, NBA will bring back the OG refs.
 
Officiating a basketball game is not some special skill. And the only differences with the NBA would be adjusting to the speed of world class athletes anddealing with all the egos.

I doubt the quality of the officiating will suffer, but employing replacement referees means there's nothing stopping David Stern from orchestratingwhatever outcomes he wants. The NBA could become like WWE. It wouldn't be exciting to watch, but it would be great for betting on.
 
For those of you saying they're getting into the groove, it goes beyond just the sheer number of fouls being called. They're missing basic elements ofthe game.

For the second game in a row, replacement officials have completely botched routine free-throw procedures in Detroit.

During Monday's game between the Pistons and the Heat, the referees failed to whistle a dead ball after Ben Wallace tossed up an air ball on a free-throw attempt in the first half. Worse yet, in the fourth quarter, the officials allowed Will Bynum, a career 77.8% shooter from the stripe, to shoot free throws for Maceo Baston, only realizing their mistake after Miami's bench complained when Bynum drained them both. After conferring, the officials took the points off the board and sent Baston to the line, where he missed both attempts.

Bynum pleaded innocence after Monday's game, telling FanHouse he heard a referee tell him to take the line. From the officials' perspective, I'm not sure what's worse: Bynum telling a fib, which shows how easily they were fooled; or Bynum telling the truth, which proves that all three refs weren't on the same page. Either way, it looks bad ... but not as bad as what happened Wednesday.

From the recap:


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Ersan Ilyasova was fouled while shooting a jumper and awarded two free throws. During the next timeout, more than 90 seconds later, the officials decided he had been taking a 3-pointer, and gave him another shot.

He made it, but [Tayshaun] Prince pointed out that the error was only correctable within 24 seconds, so the point was taken away from Milwaukee.

``I told him that they couldn't change it after five minutes or whatever it was, and he said 'yeah, you're right,''' Prince said. ``Then I had to remind him to tell the scorer's table to take it back off the board.''
So the refs not only blew the initial call, but they didn't know how to fix their mistake, needing a player to set them straight. For some reason, I'm thinking Steve Javie or Dan Crawford gets that right the first time.

Will embarrassing miscues like these force the NBA into a corner and lead to a new deal being struck with the regular referees? Perhaps, but even if a new contract is signed before the start of the regular season, it may be a coincidence.

One popular theory among NBA folk is that the league isn't as concerned about forcing the referees' union into making concessions so much as proving to the players' union that they're willing to play hardball once it comes time to negotiate their deal. It's a risky maneuver from a public relations standpoint, but the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced it's possible.

Consider this: if I didn't tell you about the mistakes made by the replacement crews, would you have heard about them? Hardly anyone attends these games -- arenas are generally half full, regardless of reported attendance figures -- and most teams only have two or three preseason games televised. TV highlights are distilled to a handful of key plays, and sports talk radio is dominated by football and MLB playoffs.

In other words, your average fan won't have a clue how awful the stand-in officials are until the regular season, and even then there's a grace period of at least a month before casual fans really start paying attention, meaning David Stern can make his stand now without massive public outcry. If the interim weren't so abysmal for those of us paying attention, I'd almost say the strategy is genius.
 
One thing that was mentioned in the Warrios- Lakers game last night was when there was a loose ball and one of the Warriors player and Odom were fighting forthe ball. Apparently, both players had their hands on the ball and so it shouldve been a jump ball, but instead the Warriors player signaled for timeout andthe ref gave it to him.

Just pointing that out.
 
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