NWO is coming...

They're trying to disarm us, censor the internet, and remove more freedoms day by day. Lie after lie is fed to the public via big media.

Obama is the US poster boy for this progressive takeover.

It's not too late to be prepared, but it's too late to stop it. "Liberty and justice" are at stake.
 
 
Originally Posted by James Earl Zones

They're trying to disarm us, censor the internet, and remove more freedoms day by day. Lie after lie is fed to the public via big media.

Obama is the US poster boy for this progressive takeover.

It's not too late to be prepared, but it's too late to stop it. "Liberty and justice" are at stake.
 
HAhahahahahahahahahaha   Progressive Takeover.. Progressives are tired of him..

And trying to disarm you? DO YOU FOLLOW POLITICS.. What bill has he passed to disarm you.. He allowed guns to be carried in National Parks  he expanded Second Amendment by not throwing it out when it was sneaked into a credit card bill...

Censor the internet? Where? Net Neutrality... You don't understand what Net Neutrality is...    The "kill switch" he never proposed it.. Blame Joe Liebermann the Conservative who tries to pose as a Liberal...

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Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by James Earl Zones

They're trying to disarm us, censor the internet, and remove more freedoms day by day. Lie after lie is fed to the public via big media.

Obama is the US poster boy for this progressive takeover.

It's not too late to be prepared, but it's too late to stop it. "Liberty and justice" are at stake.
 
HAhahahahahahahahahaha   Progressive Takeover.. Progressives are tired of him..

And trying to disarm you? DO YOU FOLLOW POLITICS.. What bill has he passed to disarm you.. He allowed guns to be carried in National Parks  he expanded Second Amendment by not throwing it out when it was sneaked into a credit card bill...

Censor the internet? Where? Net Neutrality... You don't understand what Net Neutrality is...    The "kill switch" he never proposed it.. Blame Joe Liebermann the Conservative who tries to pose as a Liberal...

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Progressive as in progressively. Not progressives.

Calm down sir. Laughing and adding rolling smileys to your post is not going to make me or anyone else take you seriously.

Nowhere did I say Obama is trying to disarm me, nor is that to be taken strictly as "taking our guns". I apologize for not being more specific.

Internet censorship...

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/68003

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) voted on Thursday to begin the formal process of bringing the Internet under greater federal control – a move sought by both President Barack Obama and FCC Chairnman Julius Genachowski--even though federal law calls for an Internet "unfettered by Federal or State regulation."
 
This step comes after the federal .C. Circuit Court of Appeals in April rebuked the FCC in its attempt to enforce a controversial regulatory doctrine called Net Neutrality, which  would allow the government to prevent private Internet providers from deciding which applications to allow on their networks.
 
The court said that the FCC did not have the authority to prevent Comcast, specifically,  from blocking certain peer-to-peer Web sites.
 
The FCC is now trying to reclassify the Internet to broaden its authority over the Web. Currently, the FCC only has “ancillary
 
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Originally Posted by rawjs

Originally Posted by solesavage

Some of you need to stop smoking all that spinach and just live life.
QFT. 

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this is why we can't win......the people who are supposed to be backing the counter movement are just a bunch of part time %*+ !+%$+# who don't see the bigger picture.

How you gonna have a Wu av but then reinforce the very things the Wu Tang is against?

Like Pac said.....are you gonna ride or die?


   Take a breather buddy. I'm very much aware of current events/conspiracy theores. What do you expect me to do? Waste my time and protest on the street with a sign? No, I have a family to feed, and a life to live with out stressing out on what lies ahead.

Why dont you sit there and tell me what we're supposed to do genius? Sit at home paranoid, stressing over something that is out of our control?
 
Internet Regulation to prohibit INTERNET PROVIDERS (the people who you get your internet from) from slowing down sites that aren't associated with them or don't pay them money to get faster service doesn't sound like Censorship.


That means Comcast can slow down Google if it wants in order to be more competitive. And can charge as much money as it wants in order for it to work at a higher speed.


Ok another point.. Comcast could hate HuffingtonPost or FoxNews.com (1 of the 2) and because they hate it they can slow down how quick the page runs because they gave them bad press or whatever reason.. So now me as a consumer of comcast will have trouble getting on these sites because Comcast has a problem with it. Therefore filtering the content I view by slowing its capabilities so either I sit through a tedious process of it taking forever or I just never go on the site. And don't worry they can get the faster speed if they pay for it. But I can charge A $1000 a month for the faster capabilities and B $1mil a month for faster capabilities...

Yeah that's Censorship trying to prevent that...
 
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NWO has been "coming" for 3 centuries now. %#%@$ like Detox. Something for conspiracy theorist to live for have fun with that.
 
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NWO has been "coming" for 3 centuries now. %#%@$ like Detox. Something for conspiracy theorist to live for have fun with that.

Well that song with Jay just got leaked so..
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Originally Posted by Essential1

Internet Regulation to prohibit INTERNET PROVIDERS (the people who you get your internet from) from slowing down sites that aren't associated with them or don't pay them money to get faster service doesn't sound like Censorship.


That means Comcast can slow down Google if it wants in order to be more competitive. And can charge as much money as it wants in order for it to work at a higher speed.


Ok another point.. Comcast could hate HuffingtonPost or FoxNews.com (1 of the 2) and because they hate it they can slow down how quick the page runs because they gave them bad press or whatever reason.. So now me as a consumer of comcast will have trouble getting on these sites because Comcast has a problem with it. Therefore filtering the content I view by slowing its capabilities so either I sit through a tedious process of it taking forever or I just never go on the site. And don't worry they can get the faster speed if they pay for it. But I can charge A $1000 a month for the faster capabilities and B $1mil a month for faster capabilities...

Yeah that's Censorship trying to prevent that...

A private internet service like Comcast or AT&T having slow loading for sites isn't censorship, you have other options. Censorship would be the government completely blocking sites (for every ISP) that they felt was bad. You voluntarily signed up for a product offered by Comcast, they own the servers you are paying to use, therefore they can do whatever they want with it. If you do not like their service, you have every right to switch ISPs, if you so choose.


Oh by the way...

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[h1]Senators propose granting president emergency Internet power[/h1]June 10, 2010 8:25 PM PDT
by Declan McCullagh


A new U.S. Senate bill would grant the president far-reaching emergency powers to seize control of or even shut down portions of the Internet.

The legislation announced Thursday says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines, or software firms that the government selects "shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed" by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined.

That emergency authority would allow the federal government to "preserve those networks and assets and our country and protect our people," Joe Lieberman, the primary sponsor of the measure and the chairman of the Homeland Security committee, told reporters on Thursday. Lieberman is an independent senator from Connecticut who caucuses with the Democrats.

Because there are few limits on the president's emergency power, which can be renewed indefinitely, the densely worded 197-page bill (PDF) is likely to encounter stiff opposition.

TechAmerica, probably the largest U.S. technology lobby group, said it was concerned about "unintended consequences that would result from the legislation's regulatory approach" and "the potential for absolute power." And the Center for Democracy and Technology publicly worried that the Lieberman bill's emergency powers "include authority to shut down or limit Internet traffic on private systems."

The idea of an Internet "kill switch" that the president could flip is not new. A draft Senate proposal that CNET obtained in August allowed the White House to "declare a cybersecurity emergency," and another from Sens. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.V.) and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) would have explicitly given the government the power to "order the disconnection" of certain networks or Web sites.

On Thursday, both senators lauded Lieberman's bill, which is formally titled the Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, or PCNAA. Rockefeller said "I commend" the drafters of the PCNAA. Collins went further, signing up at a co-sponsor and saying at a press conference that "we cannot afford to wait for a cyber 9/11 before our government realizes the importance of protecting our cyber resources."

Under PCNAA, the federal government's power to force private companies to comply with emergency decrees would become unusually broad. Any company on a list created by Homeland Security that also "relies on" the Internet, the telephone system, or any other component of the U.S. "information infrastructure" would be subject to command by a new National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications (NCCC) that would be created inside Homeland Security.

The only obvious limitation on the NCCC's emergency power is one paragraph in the Lieberman bill that appears to have grown out of the Bush-era flap over warrantless wiretapping. That limitation says that the NCCC cannot order broadband providers or other companies to "conduct surveillance" of Americans unless it's otherwise legally authorized.

Lieberman said Thursday that enactment of his bill needed to be a top congressional priority. "For all of its 'user-friendly' allure, the Internet can also be a dangerous place with electronic pipelines that run directly into everything from our personal bank accounts to key infrastructure to government and industrial secrets," he said. "Our economic security, national security and public safety are now all at risk from new kinds of enemies--cyber-warriors, cyber-spies, cyber-terrorists and cyber-criminals."
[h2]A new cybersecurity bureaucracy[/h2]

Lieberman's proposal would form a powerful and extensive new Homeland Security bureaucracy around the NCCC, including "no less" than two deputy directors, and liaison officers to the Defense Department, Justice Department, Commerce Department, and the Director of National Intelligence. (How much the NCCC director's duties would overlap with those of the existing assistant secretary for infrastructure protection is not clear.)

The NCCC also would be granted the power to monitor the "security status" of private sector Web sites, broadband providers, and other Internet components. Lieberman's legislation requires the NCCC to provide "situational awareness of the security status" of the portions of the Internet that are inside the United States -- and also those portions in other countries that, if disrupted, could cause significant harm.

Selected private companies would be required to participate in "information sharing" with the Feds. They must "certify in writing to the director" of the NCCC whether they have "developed and implemented" federally approved security measures, which could be anything from encryption to physical security mechanisms, or programming techniques that have been "approved by the director." The NCCC director can "issue an order" in cases of noncompliance.

The prospect of a vast new cybersecurity bureaucracy with power to command the private sector worries some privacy advocates. "This is a plan for an auto-immune reaction," says Jim Harper, director of information studies at the libertarian Cato Institute. "When something goes wrong, the government will attack our infrastructure and make society weaker."

To sweeten the deal for industry groups, Lieberman has included a tantalizing offer absent from earlier drafts: immunity from civil lawsuits. If a software company's programming error costs customers billions, or a broadband provider intentionally cuts off its customers in response to a federal command, neither would be liable.

If there's an "incident related to a cyber vulnerability" after the president has declared an emergency and the affected company has followed federal standards, plaintiffs' lawyers cannot collect damages for economic harm. And if the harm is caused by an emergency order from the Feds, not only does the possibility of damages virtually disappear, but the U.S. Treasury will even pick up the private company's tab.

Another sweetener: A new White House office would be charged with forcing federal agencies to take cybersecurity more seriously, with the power to jeopardize their budgets if they fail to comply. The likely effect would be to increase government agencies' demand for security products.

Tom Gann, McAfee's vice president for government relations, stopped short of criticizing the Lieberman bill, calling it a "very important piece of legislation."

McAfee is paying attention to "a number of provisions of the bill that could use work," Gann said, and "we've certainly put some focus on the emergency provisions."

Last updated at 9:14 p.m. PT.




Congress would be granting the President the "kill switch", you honestly think that President Obama wouldn't sign this law ASAP? You are right, he never proposed it publicly, but he signs laws into execution. Also, it gives the power to the Department of Homeland Security which operates under which one of the 3 Branches of government the.......Executive. So would the President be any less guilty of vastly expanding governmental control over private companies...again, than the people who wrote the bill?
 
The bill won't pass..Second of all you assume Obama would sign it into law automatically when it hasn't even passed, it hasn't even gone up for a vote. It's only been proposed. President can VETO certain parts of the bill if he wants and keep the rest. Do you really think 60 senators would vote for it? If they even vote for it... Which I doubt they will because it was already taken back last year by public outrage. They wouldn't even get 40 votes... It WILL BE POLITICAL SUICIDE TO TOUCH..

And Oh let's have the free market decide what we get to see and don't see. We can go somewhere else. NO Company that provides a means for information should deny what we see/don't see. They can shape the truth. They can shape the discussion, and can shape it for their bottom line. This is the problem with Capitalism we expect them to have people's best intentions in mind but the only thing that matters is their bottom line. And most time the well-being of the public and the bottom line of a particular corporation are exact opposite. What if Comcast and every other ISP slow down the same website then what? I don't know if you know this but being able to be exposed to whatever content we would like is part of the freedom of speech.. I see you think it is cool for Private Companies to decide what content we should be exposed to.. As long as we can switch companies..

What if Comcast blocks google.. Verizon blocks NYTimes .. AT & T blocks facebook, Time Warner blocks HuffingtonPost..... All Sites I visit.. What happens then? I guess I have to stop going to a certain site...  Sounds like my life is being censored
 
Get your mind and spirit in the right place and they can't win. Who is "they"? Anyone or anything attempting to take away your rightful position of children of god.
 
Five Percenters are not all paranoid you know, then again I do not think the white man is the devil. It is funny that Nas dropped that Hillary is a reptilian line in that Jadakiss song though, late as hell on that boat.
 
The New World Order is here. Who cares anymore, don't get the RFID chip, but know that esoteric and occult symbolism has been everywhere since the beginning of time, and the whole conspiracy thing is just new age shilling...
 
Whenever I need a good laugh, I know to come to NT General forum and look for an Illuminati, NWO, conspiracy theory driven thread, like clockwork these threads continue to show up.
 
Originally Posted by Essential1

The bill won't pass..Second of all you assume Obama would sign it into law automatically when it hasn't even passed, it hasn't even gone up for a vote. It's only been proposed. President can VETO certain parts of the bill if he wants and keep the rest. Do you really think 60 senators would vote for it? If they even vote for it... Which I doubt they will because it was already taken back last year by public outrage. They wouldn't even get 40 votes... It WILL BE POLITICAL SUICIDE TO TOUCH..

And Oh let's have the free market decide what we get to see and don't see. We can go somewhere else. NO Company that provides a means for information should deny what we see/don't see. They can shape the truth. They can shape the discussion, and can shape it for their bottom line. This is the problem with Capitalism we expect them to have people's best intentions in mind but the only thing that matters is their bottom line. And most time the well-being of the public and the bottom line of a particular corporation are exact opposite. What if Comcast and every other ISP slow down the same website then what? I don't know if you know this but being able to be exposed to whatever content we would like is part of the freedom of speech.. I see you think it is cool for Private Companies to decide what content we should be exposed to.. As long as we can switch companies..

What if Comcast blocks google.. Verizon blocks NYTimes .. AT & T blocks facebook, Time Warner blocks HuffingtonPost..... All Sites I visit.. What happens then? I guess I have to stop going to a certain site...  Sounds like my life is being censored

I do think with the lame duck Congressional session they could get it done, the same way strong-armed and bribery tactics were used to pass health care. I'm sure they would use reconciliation or some other sort of action to get it through, if they so choose. President Obama could careless about anything being political suicide. The man only cares about being in his mind an "effective" one term President.


Why shouldn't a company deny what you can and what you cant see on THEIR servers? It is their property. If I own a restaurant and I refuse to serve pork, should the government come in and tell me I need to serve pork to make things neutral? To make things even? If I own a sports bar and I refuse to show the NFL, should the government tell me I have to show NFL games because the closest sports bar is 20 miles away and it is an inconvenience for people to drive so far? If the government can tell me what to do with my property, is it really my private property? No, it isn't.

 NN couldn't exist in a Free Market because if I deny a customer to do something on my server or if I charge more to use more bandwidth, another company will gladly charge less or grant more bandwidth for a lower price and take customers away from the other company. It's not that I think it's "cool" that companies can deny people or make it difficult for people to view certain websites, but what I am for is private property rights and if they decide not to let people do what they want with their property than so be it.

What people fail to understand is that with this type of intervention, it creates monopolies. For example, just look around the country and look who offer internet servers. Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, all of which are the sole providers for landlines and cable TV all because of massive regulation of telecommunications. Where I live, for cable TV, I only have Comcast. If I do not want Comcast, my only choices are DirecTV or Dish and they do not offer the same stuff. I choose Comcast because of better quality of picture, and not having to worry about my TV going out when it rains, but yet it is a little more expensive. There is not another company that offers cable service. If I want electricity, my only option is Florida Power & Light which has a government imposed monopoly in the State of Florida and about 20 other states that are owned by the same group. They can charge what ever they want because there is nowhere else to go.

All of this is because of protectionism. NN is all about the government management of networks, instead of the private companies relying on consumer satisfaction, they will rely on massive lobbying for preferential treatment.

Believe me, you do not need to worry about the NYT, facebook, Google, or the HuffingtonPost being blocked. Those owners of those websites are in the "in crowd".
 
I mean, we're a cancer to the planet, right? Population control is kind of necessary isn't it?

And I'm not doing anything illegal, if "they" wanna monitor me, which "they" probably already are, they're just gonna see beatmaking, sex and fapping.
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Big whoop.
 
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