NYT: David Stern says that even a 5% decrease in salary cap might be too optimistic

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N.B.A. Has Tough Year and Tough Talks Ahead

By JONATHAN ABRAMS
Published: July 14, 2009

LAS VEGAS - Commissioner David Stern said Tuesday that less than half the N.B.A.'s teams turned a profit last season and that some owners had argued that a worst-case decrease in the salary cap of 5 percent might be too optimistic.

The league's board of governors convened here and will meet again Aug. 4 with the players union in hopes of jump-starting negotiations toward reaching a new collective bargaining agreement. The current one expires in June 2011.

Last week, the league predicted that its salary cap could drop to between $50.4 million and $53.6 million in 2010-11, which would represent a loss between 2.5 percent and 5 percent in basketball-related revenue. On Tuesday, Stern added that teams could face at least a 10 percent drop in ticket revenue next season.

"We are anxious to get going," Stern said of the negotiations. "We're not planning on a miracle here, but on the other hand, we'd be prepared to accept one."

Stern also announced the appointment of a labor-relations committee of 10 owners that would be headed by the San Antonio Spurs owner Peter Holt.

"There is complete agreement that we need to look for a system that keeps our players - as well paid as they are - at the top of the heap, but on the other hand returns the league to profitability at the same time," Stern said.

Some observers predict that the next collective bargaining agreement will feature drastic changes and that players will be forced to make concessions because of the economy.

In response to the league memorandum that the salary cap will probably decrease next season, Billy Hunter, the executive director of the union, cautioned that it could have a chilling effect on future signings.

"If it later turns out that the league did not have a good-faith basis for making these projections, the N.B.P.A. will pursue all available legal remedies, including a treble damages claim for collusion," Hunter told ESPN.com last week.

When asked about Hunter's statement, Stern smiled.

"We've been in touch," Stern said. "He knows that we welcome him saying whatever he needs to say, but the facts are out and you'll see our numbers and our projections out there."

http://www.nytimes.com/20...etball/15stern.html?_r=2


Not sure if we got many Twitter fans, but Bill Simmons has a few tweets the other day in response to this article that are really, really interesting:


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sportsguy33Link: http://tinyurl.com/nclxhw ... as I wrote in Feb, a 2010-11 lockout is looming. Renewal numbers much worse than they are letting on.
He means 2011-12, or more accurately summer of 2011, but anyway.

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sportsguy33Also: Stern knows from last experience that 50% of the stars can't survive without steady income coming in. He can break them. And he will.
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sportsguy331 more link: My "No Benjamins Association" column from last Feb. Everything happened as predicted. http://tinyurl.com/aamsly

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sportsguy331 more note: Disaster looming in Phi, Indy, N.O. & Milw. Renewal numbers horrendous. Notice how they haven't made any moves?
...he then updated that last post...

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sportsguy331 Effed up with last post: "Disaster looming in Phi, Indy, N.O. & Milw." Meant N.J. not N.O. Brainfart. The perils of quick-posting.
...although things are bad in New Orleans too...
 
As much as Simmons bothers me, the man knows the NBA pretty well.

So far he's been on the money, but there are still teams spending, so we'll see how it all plays out. Teams need to get bad contracts under control. They are franchise killers.
 
stern is a crafty as all hell. He's gonna look real bad if the economy turns around half a year from now and the cap still shrinks by 10 percent. Playersunion will fight this one hard. Guess we just have to wait and see.
 
I can think of 2 line items to eliminate:

- $12 million to subsidize the WNBA each year
- $11 million to pay David Stern's annual base salary
 
If only there was a team that treated the salary cap with reckless abandon, that also happens to be in a major market...
 
Yeah, New Jersey is in a pretty bad situation right now. If Brooklyn does not happen, Ratner will sell to highest bidder.


Season Ticket sales are up 20% but I am sure after the VC deal, alot of people either pulled out of the ticket sale or people who had tickets before did notrenew.


Looking at alot of empty seats next year. (Not that we had alot to begin with.)
 
League doesn't need thirty teams and there ain't no reason role player should make 5 million.
 
So, whose to blame for all this?

I wonder who was the first player (role player) to accept such a high lucrative contract. I feel like that started this stupid title wave of insane contracts.
 
Teams signing bad contracts deserve a hefty part of the blame.

There shouldn't be so many teams in the nba either. The talent is watered down now on each team. Scrubs earning 6 mil a year
 
Originally Posted by nycknicks105

So, whose to blame for all this?

I wonder who was the first player (role player) to accept such a high lucrative contract. I feel like that started this stupid title wave of insane contracts.

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I know he wasn't the first GM to wild'out though
 
Gary St. Jean used to do his fair share of terrible contracts.

Word to JapanAir's boy Adonal Foyle.
 
Originally Posted by nycknicks105

So, whose to blame for all this?

I wonder who was the first player (role player) to accept such a high lucrative contract. I feel like that started this stupid title wave of insane contracts.

I say Jim McIlvaine.
 
well say there was a smaller cap. Wouldnt lebron want a city where he can make that money back?




























Welcome to Houston Lebron!
 
Originally Posted by RetroBaller

well say there was a smaller cap. Wouldnt lebron want a city where he can make that money back?
if he doesn't sign an extension with CLE this summer he risks leaving ALOT of money on the table. If he signs at current numbers I think hewon't lose anything. But if he opts out and the cap shrinks he will receive much less money if he re-signs. At that point I guess it would make sense tomake it up in a big market with endorsements. If I'm wrong someone let me know.
 
Bottom line, the Cavs can give Lebron the most money BY-FAR. Probably even totaling more than a Nike deal in the long run....
 
Originally Posted by DubA169

Originally Posted by RetroBaller

well say there was a smaller cap. Wouldnt lebron want a city where he can make that money back?
if he doesn't sign an extension with CLE this summer he risks leaving ALOT of money on the table. If he signs at current numbers I think he won't lose anything. But if he opts out and the cap shrinks he will receive much less money if he re-signs. At that point I guess it would make sense to make it up in a big market with endorsements. If I'm wrong someone let me know.


Yeah you're a bit inaccurate.

Lebron James is a max player. Even with drop in figures in the future CBA(s) (Collective Barganing Agreements), Lebron's contractsituation will remain the same (as it will for Wade, Bosh, etc all 'max' caliber players) and will be grandfathered in the following cap year.

And acutally waiting till next summer, and opting out comes with largest finacial coup for all the players, as they can opt out and re-sign for to the maximumallowable 6 years.
 
I'd really like to see the NBA drop guaranteed contracts, I think that will put the NBA over the top as the best league. Although it'll probably neverhappen.
 
When does the current CBA end? Does anybody know when bargaining begins?

Im going to be keeping my eye on this one. Its going to be very very interesting.
 
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