**Official '11 NYK LOCKOUT thread*** lockout over

Melo and Amare need a coach that's gonna ride their **%, instead of letting +##% fly like jerk-off does. These dudes have too much freedom.
 
Feel like ripping my hair out man. This !*%$ sucks
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I can't take yall serious with this Billups talk especially after all that we should extend him posts after last night's win.

Clowns.
 
Was this a ego loss? we play carefree against bad teams and play great against good teams. Is this the new trend for the Knicks?
 
I will say this....Billups always had bad games similar to this in Denver. However, I do accept the fact that he's an upgrade over Felton even with those bad games.The only problem I have with him is that he sometimes falls into his own Big Shot persona. The man just came back from injury, so he's going to be rusty, but he does have a tendency to get tunnel vision similar to Melo and STAT. Hopefully he'll get back into a groove in which he can balance that out better.
 
All these losses to these horrible teams in the Central Division are pissing me off!!  Horrible execution down the stretch. 
 
SMH
i drove 3hrs to watch the knicks lose....
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tough loss tonight,
we played no defense, as usual, and we couldnt secure any rebounds
melo played like crap, even tho stuckey was guarding him....
and billups had some questionable plays too....

the palace was going nuts when charlie v hit those 3 3ptrs....
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we made this trade to become consistent. I'm not seeing it. I'd rather watch the youngins be inconsistent than watch this mess.

Hey melo. I see you pouting and disgruntled. Guess what buddy, you are the one that thought money was more important than coming to a team full of role players and picks. Man the !%%$ up or you are going to have a horrible stay in NYC.

Not even worth explaining how Dolan is the one that screwed the team so he can raise the tickets to lakers prices by getting melo at any costs.

I see the same problems on D. You guys thought setting a franchise records for threes is a good thing? People don't switch as much is a damn pick up game.

Dantoni telling the fans to take prozac. You fake !*# offensive Guru shut your @%!%%*+ mouth. I'm beyond happy the media is taking a $@%# on you. I applaud that jerk barkely for publicly slamming you. You are worthless. You don;t hold players accountable. Your entire plan is go go go go go. Getting mad at the fans. Do your damn job

Chauncey is the main reason we lost the game. I dont see a reason why we should get him next year unless he goes off in the playoffs.

Amare getting paid one hundred million dollars to not box out and scream and one

refs are screwing around with melo and amare for sure. But they need to get over it


This team frustrates me beyond comprehension. I almost smoked my first cigarette in a month. You guys get payed way too much to half !*# it every other game and be flawed as !%%$
 
i still like the trade regardless.. and i think its too early to judge the trade... this trade was good for us in the long run and for the future and not immediately... we have our core pieces melo and amare and now we just have to surround them with good role players and a good point guard and center... we're the same exact team before the trade record wise so i don't see how this would be a bad trade...the same thing haunts this team as before the trade is inconsistency and bad defense... i'm not quick to point fingers... and no im not blaming dantoni because players have been just playing bad whether its defense or folding under pressure in the fourth quarter...i know i said billups is turnover prone but im giving him the benefit of the doubt and hoping he snaps out of it... we have a great 6th man in toney and shawne isn't bad either... i still think we need more from our center position whether its jared or ronny... i know they are good for their intangibles and defense but they suck offensively and its painful to watch 
 
Hello seventh spot. Even with the likes of stat and Melo we are a weak team with no defensive leader.even without the trade we would have been in the same place.aslong as d antoni is coach we will never get past the first round. We rely way too much on the jump shot and not enough post presence.Im sick and tired of of a non defensive knicks team.
 
One off game by Melo and we're not consistent? Was Billups not injured after like 4 games with the team? Team never been defensive all season so that's a moot point. Dude's talking like Melo isn't averaging more points since the trade along with Amar'e. Like this team is good at rebounding.

We didn't make this trade for consistency on defense.

Victims of the moment.
 
I think that's what makes this all seem ugly Tim

The New York Knicks after multiple decades of elite defense, are a laughingstock on that end. The fact that kids in pick up games play better densense than the *%%@%#@ knicks is incredibly sad

Dantoni talking **$% about the fans was the last straw for me. Nobody needs prozic in phx because as good as the fans are, the state isn't obsessed with basketball. don't get mad at the press and fans calling your no talent +%$ out for atrocious coaching on defense



from three years ago


The spat between Mike D'Antoni and Phoenix's current management has flared back up. In this morning's New York Post, D'Antoni told Peter Vescey that owner Robert Sarver and GM Steve Kerr tried to force in a defensive assistant coach after the first-round blow-up against the Spurs and basically tinkered too much for his taste. D'Antoni also asserts that in his first meeting with Shawn Marion, Kerr told the forward he wasn't worth a max contract.

Via BSotS, Sarver jumped on Phoenix sports radio today to answer the charges. Here's his basic assessment of what led to D'Antoni's departure.

"At the end of the day, I think that while Mike didn't really want to be the GM, he also didn't want a boss. Mike's a pretty stubborn guy and probably felt that a little bit of the suggestions were maybe undermining him, even though that wasn't our intent. [...] Steve walked on eggshells all year and basically didn't tell Mike to do anything."

There's better gossip in there, though: Sarver said D'Antoni agreed before the 2007-08 season that he'd consider adding a defensive coordinator to the bench once Marc Iavaroni left for Memphis. Kerr brought then-free agent Tom Thibodeau to town. (Thibodeau was a long-time Jeff Van Gundy assistant and had been interviewed for a few head coach jobs that summer.) Sarver said D'Antoni rejected Thibodeau and instead promoted his brother Dan D'Antoni to lead assistant. Thibodeau, of course, eventually landed in Boston, where he implemented what became the league's highest-rated defense.

Did D'Antoni feel threatened by the Thibodeau suggestion? If Sarver and Kerr knew he was stubborn and didn't like having a boss, why did they think he'd approve of having the boss' hand-picked #2 on his staff? Of course, I imagine Suns fans will be less than ecstatic that D'Antoni put his own autonomy in higher regard than the team's plight. With Thibodeau's specific expertise, the team could have won a title.



the jerk off wouldn't accept thibbs beause he was about to get exposed hard

get him the !!*$ out of here after the season
 
I'm not gonna blast Pringles right now but IMO there's NO WAY Landry should play only 19 minutes in any game. He wasn't even in foul trouble tonight
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....this hasn't been the first time either that Pringles hasn't gone with him down the stretch. Kid is our best rebounder at 6'7"...and he's our SG. His instincts are needed as well cause a lot of the times he covers for a lot of our guys by just being in the right place. Regardless we need him in the game. I don't wanna say that TD shouldn't play in crunch time, IMO he shouldn't, but Pringles shouldn't be going with Billups/TD in FAVOR of Landry. If he wants to play TD that's fine, even with Billups I'm okay with that, but Landry has to be on the floor. 19 minutes, you cannot be serious Pringles....







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And does anyone feel that although he probably was playing the same on the defensive end before the trade it's just so much more evident how brutal Amar'e is on D and boxing dudes out? I been trying to figure this out since we made the trade I'm honestly puzzled. I know STAT was letting dudes go HAM before the trade (Lopez
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lol@ the play he drew up at the end of the game...

base-line pass for a fade 3 pointer by Melo....

sad part is there are no good coaches out there.... seriously what are our options?

-jerry sloan
-jeff van gundy
-mike brown
-???
 
Originally Posted by RuffRydya08

And does anyone feel that although he probably was playing the same on the defensive end before the trade it's just so much more evident how brutal Amar'e is on D and boxing dudes out? I been trying to figure this out since we made the trade I'm honestly puzzled. I know STAT was letting dudes go HAM before the trade (Lopez
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It's cuz there isn't 4 other players to share the blame when the Knicks lose.
 
Pringles is the worst coach in the L at drawing up plays out of time outs. He always goes to the little double screen and someone curls off it, it's pathetic. My 2 biggest fears in the playoffs are TD shooting us out of a game and Pringles getting outcoached. Most teams have 3-4 plays out of TOs that get great looks if they aren't basically automatic 2 or 3 points. You figure that most good teams get 6-8 points per game just off plays coming out of TOs...too bad we don't
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