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OFFICIAL 2010 NFL SEASON THREAD: BREAKING NEWS VIKINGS WAIVE RANDY MOSS
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Originally Posted by RKO2004
That was assault?
Whatever it was, send his @++ to J-A-I-L JAIL! JAIL! JAIL!
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Originally Posted by RKO2004
That was assault?
Whatever it was, send his @++ to J-A-I-L JAIL! JAIL! JAIL!
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Originally Posted by RKO2004
That was assault?
Whatever it was, send his @++ to J-A-I-L JAIL! JAIL! JAIL!
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Originally Posted by h3at23
Originally Posted by RKO2004
That was assault?
Whatever it was, send his @++ to J-A-I-L JAIL! JAIL! JAIL!
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That Madden Curse starting to slowly kick in huh?
Over an hour ago - Drew Brees has a strained MCL in his left knee, according to WIST-AM in New Orleans, which is citing a source familiar with the situation. The radio report also stated that the plan will be for Brees to play Sunday against the Panthers. Saints RapidReports
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Over an hour ago - Drew Brees has a strained MCL in his left knee, according to WIST-AM in New Orleans, which is citing a source familiar with the situation. The radio report also stated that the plan will be for Brees to play Sunday against the Panthers. Saints RapidReports
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[h1]Andrew Luck tops Kiper's Big Board[/h1][h3]After a season spent on the bench, A.J. Green is back to prove he belongs in the Top 5[/h3]
By Mel Kiper
ESPN.com
Archive
Two of the top three players on my Big Board will be under the spotlight for very different reasons this week. QB Andrew Luck faces what likely will be Stanford's toughest test of the season at Oregon. A win and a good performance there not only would supplement Luck's draft status but also could thrust his name into the Heisman discussion.
For A.J. Green, it's a different story. Georgia has missed him terribly during its 1-3 start, and while pegging that record to the absence of a wide receiver seems like a stretch, Green is the kind of offensive talent who changes completely the way a team will prepare for Georgia's offense. He's that dynamic. And he's also Colorado's problem this week, his first on the field this season.
Other storylines: A Notre Dame star drops off, a UCLA defender flies up, and Arkansas' lanky QB takes a slight dip. As always, underclassmen are denoted with an asterisk.
Andrew Luck *
QB
6-4
235
Analysis: Great arm, NFL smarts, solid footwork. Prototypical size and intangibles. Checks down with a veteran's savvy. Mostly solid in the ND win. Last week: No. 1
Robert Quinn *
DE
6-4
267
Analysis: A freakish athlete. He's still developing consistency and is young for his class. Eligibility issues remain; stock still high. Last week: No. 2
A.J. Green *
WR
6-4
207
Analysis: The profile of a No. 1 receiver at NFL level. Great size-speed combination; instinctive, great hands. Finally hits the field vs. Colorado this week. Last week: No. 3
Jake Locker
QB
6-3
226
Analysis: Has all the physical tools -- size, arm, even speed and improving footwork. Accuracy and consistent decision-making remains a question. Last week: No. 1
Prince Amukamara
CB
6-1
200
Analysis: A big corner with a ton of talent. Amukamara has the necessary speed and leads a deep CB class. Competition about to pick up. Last week: No. 5
Patrick Peterson *
CB
6-1
211
Analysis: Safety size with fluidity of a top corner. Maybe the top size-speed combo in this entire class. Also showing top-end return skills. Last week: No. 7
Adrian Clayborn
DE
6-3
282
Analysis: Very complete defensive end. Solid pass-rusher, steady against run. Very high-energy; batters linemen. Projects at 4-3 DE. Last week: No. 8
Marcell Dareus *
DE
6-3
303
Analysis: Has the versatility and explosiveness to be a 3-4 DE or DT in 4-3. He's ready to emerge, surrounded with talent. Back now, adds to a talented defense. Last week: No. 9
Mark Ingram *
RB
5-10
212
Analysis: Blue-collar runner, explosive after contact. Pro-style workhorse back. Lacks top-end speed, but productive. Back to 100 percent after injury. Last week: No. 12
Ryan Kerrigan
DE
6-4
259
Analysis: Disruptive, relentless pass-rusher with decent power versus the run. Great motor, reminds of Chris Long. Steady after flying up Board. Last week: No. 13
Akeem Ayers *
OLB
6-4
252
Analysis: Budding star, a physical specimen with ideal size. Ready to break out. Cover skills trump improving pass-rushing skills. Dominant in UCLA's big win vs. Texas. Last week. No. 18
Allen Bailey
DE
6-4
288
Analysis: Still learning end position; building on flashes of brilliance in 2009. Bailey could project as a 3-4 or 4-3 DE. Another test at Pitt. Last week: No. 11
Ryan Mallett*
QB
6-7
238
Analysis: Has an incredible arm but developing footwork and accuracy. Must learn to check down more, use underneath routes. Decision-making key. Last week: No. 6
Da'Quon Bowers *
DE
6-4
282
Analysis: Great athlete, now putting it all together. Great takeoff, wingspan, solid against run or pass. Top 10 potential. Last week: No. 19
Anthony Castonzo
OT
6-7
302
Analysis: Pro-style tackle with athleticism to deal with varied styles of rush. Smart player (up for a Rhodes Scholarship) who could add bulk. Struggled last week. Last week: No. 10
Cameron Heyward
DE
6-6
287
Analysis: He's more dominant versus the run than the pass; continues to improve consistency. Gains points for versatility along the line. Last week: No. 15
Ras-I Dowling
CB
6-2
200
Analysis: Experienced, smooth CB with fluid hips. Remains just behind Peterson and Amukamara among corners in this class. Last week: No. 14
Julio Jones *
WR
6-4
211
Analysis: Great physical tools and a fantastic blocker. Some questions about hands and consistency, but his only limit is concentration. Last week: No. 17
Nate Solder
OT
6-9
310
Analysis: A physical specimen, Solder weighs more than 300 pounds with virtually no body fat. Got off to a spotty start this season, but better recently. Last week: No. 21
Daniel Thomas
RB
6-2
228
Analysis: Current growth could have him emerge as top RB in class. Highly productive with great size, quickness. Unstoppable, so far. Last week: 20
Jon Baldwin *
WR
6-5
225
Analysis: Height, physical strength and ball skills are there; so is sub-4.5 speed. Goes up for the ball. Productivity hasn't been there this year. Last week: No. 16
Bruce Carter
OLB
6-3
230
Analysis: Smart, reliable outside linebacker in a 4-3 defense. Could add size but uses speed to cover entire field. Must learn to shed blocks better. Last week: No. 23
Rahim Moore *
S
6-1
196
Analysis: A ball hawk who led the nation in interceptions last season and moves well from sideline to sideline. Must prove physical versus blocks. Last week: No. 24
Ryan Broyles *
WR
5-11
183
Analysis: Very good hands, elusive in open field after catch, productive, and has return skills -- regardless of who's throwing the ball. Last week: NR
Marvin Austin
DT
6-3
305
Analysis: Flashes dominance but must gain consistency. He's an ideal 4-3 penetrating tackle, but his production isn't up to the level of his talent. Last week: No. 25
By Mel KiperESPN.com
Archive
Two of the top three players on my Big Board will be under the spotlight for very different reasons this week. QB Andrew Luck faces what likely will be Stanford's toughest test of the season at Oregon. A win and a good performance there not only would supplement Luck's draft status but also could thrust his name into the Heisman discussion.
For A.J. Green, it's a different story. Georgia has missed him terribly during its 1-3 start, and while pegging that record to the absence of a wide receiver seems like a stretch, Green is the kind of offensive talent who changes completely the way a team will prepare for Georgia's offense. He's that dynamic. And he's also Colorado's problem this week, his first on the field this season.
Other storylines: A Notre Dame star drops off, a UCLA defender flies up, and Arkansas' lanky QB takes a slight dip. As always, underclassmen are denoted with an asterisk.
Andrew Luck *
QB
6-4
235
Analysis: Great arm, NFL smarts, solid footwork. Prototypical size and intangibles. Checks down with a veteran's savvy. Mostly solid in the ND win. Last week: No. 1
Robert Quinn *
DE
6-4
267
Analysis: A freakish athlete. He's still developing consistency and is young for his class. Eligibility issues remain; stock still high. Last week: No. 2
A.J. Green *
WR
6-4
207
Analysis: The profile of a No. 1 receiver at NFL level. Great size-speed combination; instinctive, great hands. Finally hits the field vs. Colorado this week. Last week: No. 3
Jake Locker
QB
6-3
226
Analysis: Has all the physical tools -- size, arm, even speed and improving footwork. Accuracy and consistent decision-making remains a question. Last week: No. 1
Prince Amukamara
CB
6-1
200
Analysis: A big corner with a ton of talent. Amukamara has the necessary speed and leads a deep CB class. Competition about to pick up. Last week: No. 5
Patrick Peterson *
CB
6-1
211
Analysis: Safety size with fluidity of a top corner. Maybe the top size-speed combo in this entire class. Also showing top-end return skills. Last week: No. 7
Adrian Clayborn
DE
6-3
282
Analysis: Very complete defensive end. Solid pass-rusher, steady against run. Very high-energy; batters linemen. Projects at 4-3 DE. Last week: No. 8
Marcell Dareus *
DE
6-3
303
Analysis: Has the versatility and explosiveness to be a 3-4 DE or DT in 4-3. He's ready to emerge, surrounded with talent. Back now, adds to a talented defense. Last week: No. 9
Mark Ingram *
RB
5-10
212
Analysis: Blue-collar runner, explosive after contact. Pro-style workhorse back. Lacks top-end speed, but productive. Back to 100 percent after injury. Last week: No. 12
Ryan Kerrigan
DE
6-4
259
Analysis: Disruptive, relentless pass-rusher with decent power versus the run. Great motor, reminds of Chris Long. Steady after flying up Board. Last week: No. 13
Akeem Ayers *
OLB
6-4
252
Analysis: Budding star, a physical specimen with ideal size. Ready to break out. Cover skills trump improving pass-rushing skills. Dominant in UCLA's big win vs. Texas. Last week. No. 18
Allen Bailey
DE
6-4
288
Analysis: Still learning end position; building on flashes of brilliance in 2009. Bailey could project as a 3-4 or 4-3 DE. Another test at Pitt. Last week: No. 11
Ryan Mallett*
QB
6-7
238
Analysis: Has an incredible arm but developing footwork and accuracy. Must learn to check down more, use underneath routes. Decision-making key. Last week: No. 6
Da'Quon Bowers *
DE
6-4
282
Analysis: Great athlete, now putting it all together. Great takeoff, wingspan, solid against run or pass. Top 10 potential. Last week: No. 19
Anthony Castonzo
OT
6-7
302
Analysis: Pro-style tackle with athleticism to deal with varied styles of rush. Smart player (up for a Rhodes Scholarship) who could add bulk. Struggled last week. Last week: No. 10
Cameron Heyward
DE
6-6
287
Analysis: He's more dominant versus the run than the pass; continues to improve consistency. Gains points for versatility along the line. Last week: No. 15
Ras-I Dowling
CB
6-2
200
Analysis: Experienced, smooth CB with fluid hips. Remains just behind Peterson and Amukamara among corners in this class. Last week: No. 14
Julio Jones *
WR
6-4
211
Analysis: Great physical tools and a fantastic blocker. Some questions about hands and consistency, but his only limit is concentration. Last week: No. 17
Nate Solder
OT
6-9
310
Analysis: A physical specimen, Solder weighs more than 300 pounds with virtually no body fat. Got off to a spotty start this season, but better recently. Last week: No. 21
Daniel Thomas
RB
6-2
228
Analysis: Current growth could have him emerge as top RB in class. Highly productive with great size, quickness. Unstoppable, so far. Last week: 20
Jon Baldwin *
WR
6-5
225
Analysis: Height, physical strength and ball skills are there; so is sub-4.5 speed. Goes up for the ball. Productivity hasn't been there this year. Last week: No. 16
Bruce Carter
OLB
6-3
230
Analysis: Smart, reliable outside linebacker in a 4-3 defense. Could add size but uses speed to cover entire field. Must learn to shed blocks better. Last week: No. 23
Rahim Moore *
S
6-1
196
Analysis: A ball hawk who led the nation in interceptions last season and moves well from sideline to sideline. Must prove physical versus blocks. Last week: No. 24
Ryan Broyles *
WR
5-11
183
Analysis: Very good hands, elusive in open field after catch, productive, and has return skills -- regardless of who's throwing the ball. Last week: NR
Marvin Austin
DT
6-3
305
Analysis: Flashes dominance but must gain consistency. He's an ideal 4-3 penetrating tackle, but his production isn't up to the level of his talent. Last week: No. 25
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[h1]Andrew Luck tops Kiper's Big Board[/h1][h3]After a season spent on the bench, A.J. Green is back to prove he belongs in the Top 5[/h3]
By Mel Kiper
ESPN.com
Archive
Two of the top three players on my Big Board will be under the spotlight for very different reasons this week. QB Andrew Luck faces what likely will be Stanford's toughest test of the season at Oregon. A win and a good performance there not only would supplement Luck's draft status but also could thrust his name into the Heisman discussion.
For A.J. Green, it's a different story. Georgia has missed him terribly during its 1-3 start, and while pegging that record to the absence of a wide receiver seems like a stretch, Green is the kind of offensive talent who changes completely the way a team will prepare for Georgia's offense. He's that dynamic. And he's also Colorado's problem this week, his first on the field this season.
Other storylines: A Notre Dame star drops off, a UCLA defender flies up, and Arkansas' lanky QB takes a slight dip. As always, underclassmen are denoted with an asterisk.
Andrew Luck *
QB
6-4
235
Analysis: Great arm, NFL smarts, solid footwork. Prototypical size and intangibles. Checks down with a veteran's savvy. Mostly solid in the ND win. Last week: No. 1
Robert Quinn *
DE
6-4
267
Analysis: A freakish athlete. He's still developing consistency and is young for his class. Eligibility issues remain; stock still high. Last week: No. 2
A.J. Green *
WR
6-4
207
Analysis: The profile of a No. 1 receiver at NFL level. Great size-speed combination; instinctive, great hands. Finally hits the field vs. Colorado this week. Last week: No. 3
Jake Locker
QB
6-3
226
Analysis: Has all the physical tools -- size, arm, even speed and improving footwork. Accuracy and consistent decision-making remains a question. Last week: No. 1
Prince Amukamara
CB
6-1
200
Analysis: A big corner with a ton of talent. Amukamara has the necessary speed and leads a deep CB class. Competition about to pick up. Last week: No. 5
Patrick Peterson *
CB
6-1
211
Analysis: Safety size with fluidity of a top corner. Maybe the top size-speed combo in this entire class. Also showing top-end return skills. Last week: No. 7
Adrian Clayborn
DE
6-3
282
Analysis: Very complete defensive end. Solid pass-rusher, steady against run. Very high-energy; batters linemen. Projects at 4-3 DE. Last week: No. 8
Marcell Dareus *
DE
6-3
303
Analysis: Has the versatility and explosiveness to be a 3-4 DE or DT in 4-3. He's ready to emerge, surrounded with talent. Back now, adds to a talented defense. Last week: No. 9
Mark Ingram *
RB
5-10
212
Analysis: Blue-collar runner, explosive after contact. Pro-style workhorse back. Lacks top-end speed, but productive. Back to 100 percent after injury. Last week: No. 12
Ryan Kerrigan
DE
6-4
259
Analysis: Disruptive, relentless pass-rusher with decent power versus the run. Great motor, reminds of Chris Long. Steady after flying up Board. Last week: No. 13
Akeem Ayers *
OLB
6-4
252
Analysis: Budding star, a physical specimen with ideal size. Ready to break out. Cover skills trump improving pass-rushing skills. Dominant in UCLA's big win vs. Texas. Last week. No. 18
Allen Bailey
DE
6-4
288
Analysis: Still learning end position; building on flashes of brilliance in 2009. Bailey could project as a 3-4 or 4-3 DE. Another test at Pitt. Last week: No. 11
Ryan Mallett*
QB
6-7
238
Analysis: Has an incredible arm but developing footwork and accuracy. Must learn to check down more, use underneath routes. Decision-making key. Last week: No. 6
Da'Quon Bowers *
DE
6-4
282
Analysis: Great athlete, now putting it all together. Great takeoff, wingspan, solid against run or pass. Top 10 potential. Last week: No. 19
Anthony Castonzo
OT
6-7
302
Analysis: Pro-style tackle with athleticism to deal with varied styles of rush. Smart player (up for a Rhodes Scholarship) who could add bulk. Struggled last week. Last week: No. 10
Cameron Heyward
DE
6-6
287
Analysis: He's more dominant versus the run than the pass; continues to improve consistency. Gains points for versatility along the line. Last week: No. 15
Ras-I Dowling
CB
6-2
200
Analysis: Experienced, smooth CB with fluid hips. Remains just behind Peterson and Amukamara among corners in this class. Last week: No. 14
Julio Jones *
WR
6-4
211
Analysis: Great physical tools and a fantastic blocker. Some questions about hands and consistency, but his only limit is concentration. Last week: No. 17
Nate Solder
OT
6-9
310
Analysis: A physical specimen, Solder weighs more than 300 pounds with virtually no body fat. Got off to a spotty start this season, but better recently. Last week: No. 21
Daniel Thomas
RB
6-2
228
Analysis: Current growth could have him emerge as top RB in class. Highly productive with great size, quickness. Unstoppable, so far. Last week: 20
Jon Baldwin *
WR
6-5
225
Analysis: Height, physical strength and ball skills are there; so is sub-4.5 speed. Goes up for the ball. Productivity hasn't been there this year. Last week: No. 16
Bruce Carter
OLB
6-3
230
Analysis: Smart, reliable outside linebacker in a 4-3 defense. Could add size but uses speed to cover entire field. Must learn to shed blocks better. Last week: No. 23
Rahim Moore *
S
6-1
196
Analysis: A ball hawk who led the nation in interceptions last season and moves well from sideline to sideline. Must prove physical versus blocks. Last week: No. 24
Ryan Broyles *
WR
5-11
183
Analysis: Very good hands, elusive in open field after catch, productive, and has return skills -- regardless of who's throwing the ball. Last week: NR
Marvin Austin
DT
6-3
305
Analysis: Flashes dominance but must gain consistency. He's an ideal 4-3 penetrating tackle, but his production isn't up to the level of his talent. Last week: No. 25
By Mel KiperESPN.com
Archive
Two of the top three players on my Big Board will be under the spotlight for very different reasons this week. QB Andrew Luck faces what likely will be Stanford's toughest test of the season at Oregon. A win and a good performance there not only would supplement Luck's draft status but also could thrust his name into the Heisman discussion.
For A.J. Green, it's a different story. Georgia has missed him terribly during its 1-3 start, and while pegging that record to the absence of a wide receiver seems like a stretch, Green is the kind of offensive talent who changes completely the way a team will prepare for Georgia's offense. He's that dynamic. And he's also Colorado's problem this week, his first on the field this season.
Other storylines: A Notre Dame star drops off, a UCLA defender flies up, and Arkansas' lanky QB takes a slight dip. As always, underclassmen are denoted with an asterisk.
Andrew Luck *
QB
6-4
235
Analysis: Great arm, NFL smarts, solid footwork. Prototypical size and intangibles. Checks down with a veteran's savvy. Mostly solid in the ND win. Last week: No. 1
Robert Quinn *
DE
6-4
267
Analysis: A freakish athlete. He's still developing consistency and is young for his class. Eligibility issues remain; stock still high. Last week: No. 2
A.J. Green *
WR
6-4
207
Analysis: The profile of a No. 1 receiver at NFL level. Great size-speed combination; instinctive, great hands. Finally hits the field vs. Colorado this week. Last week: No. 3
Jake Locker
QB
6-3
226
Analysis: Has all the physical tools -- size, arm, even speed and improving footwork. Accuracy and consistent decision-making remains a question. Last week: No. 1
Prince Amukamara
CB
6-1
200
Analysis: A big corner with a ton of talent. Amukamara has the necessary speed and leads a deep CB class. Competition about to pick up. Last week: No. 5
Patrick Peterson *
CB
6-1
211
Analysis: Safety size with fluidity of a top corner. Maybe the top size-speed combo in this entire class. Also showing top-end return skills. Last week: No. 7
Adrian Clayborn
DE
6-3
282
Analysis: Very complete defensive end. Solid pass-rusher, steady against run. Very high-energy; batters linemen. Projects at 4-3 DE. Last week: No. 8
Marcell Dareus *
DE
6-3
303
Analysis: Has the versatility and explosiveness to be a 3-4 DE or DT in 4-3. He's ready to emerge, surrounded with talent. Back now, adds to a talented defense. Last week: No. 9
Mark Ingram *
RB
5-10
212
Analysis: Blue-collar runner, explosive after contact. Pro-style workhorse back. Lacks top-end speed, but productive. Back to 100 percent after injury. Last week: No. 12
Ryan Kerrigan
DE
6-4
259
Analysis: Disruptive, relentless pass-rusher with decent power versus the run. Great motor, reminds of Chris Long. Steady after flying up Board. Last week: No. 13
Akeem Ayers *
OLB
6-4
252
Analysis: Budding star, a physical specimen with ideal size. Ready to break out. Cover skills trump improving pass-rushing skills. Dominant in UCLA's big win vs. Texas. Last week. No. 18
Allen Bailey
DE
6-4
288
Analysis: Still learning end position; building on flashes of brilliance in 2009. Bailey could project as a 3-4 or 4-3 DE. Another test at Pitt. Last week: No. 11
Ryan Mallett*
QB
6-7
238
Analysis: Has an incredible arm but developing footwork and accuracy. Must learn to check down more, use underneath routes. Decision-making key. Last week: No. 6
Da'Quon Bowers *
DE
6-4
282
Analysis: Great athlete, now putting it all together. Great takeoff, wingspan, solid against run or pass. Top 10 potential. Last week: No. 19
Anthony Castonzo
OT
6-7
302
Analysis: Pro-style tackle with athleticism to deal with varied styles of rush. Smart player (up for a Rhodes Scholarship) who could add bulk. Struggled last week. Last week: No. 10
Cameron Heyward
DE
6-6
287
Analysis: He's more dominant versus the run than the pass; continues to improve consistency. Gains points for versatility along the line. Last week: No. 15
Ras-I Dowling
CB
6-2
200
Analysis: Experienced, smooth CB with fluid hips. Remains just behind Peterson and Amukamara among corners in this class. Last week: No. 14
Julio Jones *
WR
6-4
211
Analysis: Great physical tools and a fantastic blocker. Some questions about hands and consistency, but his only limit is concentration. Last week: No. 17
Nate Solder
OT
6-9
310
Analysis: A physical specimen, Solder weighs more than 300 pounds with virtually no body fat. Got off to a spotty start this season, but better recently. Last week: No. 21
Daniel Thomas
RB
6-2
228
Analysis: Current growth could have him emerge as top RB in class. Highly productive with great size, quickness. Unstoppable, so far. Last week: 20
Jon Baldwin *
WR
6-5
225
Analysis: Height, physical strength and ball skills are there; so is sub-4.5 speed. Goes up for the ball. Productivity hasn't been there this year. Last week: No. 16
Bruce Carter
OLB
6-3
230
Analysis: Smart, reliable outside linebacker in a 4-3 defense. Could add size but uses speed to cover entire field. Must learn to shed blocks better. Last week: No. 23
Rahim Moore *
S
6-1
196
Analysis: A ball hawk who led the nation in interceptions last season and moves well from sideline to sideline. Must prove physical versus blocks. Last week: No. 24
Ryan Broyles *
WR
5-11
183
Analysis: Very good hands, elusive in open field after catch, productive, and has return skills -- regardless of who's throwing the ball. Last week: NR
Marvin Austin
DT
6-3
305
Analysis: Flashes dominance but must gain consistency. He's an ideal 4-3 penetrating tackle, but his production isn't up to the level of his talent. Last week: No. 25
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