OFFICIAL 2017 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFFSEASON THREAD - Spring Game schedule on first page

Who is going to win the Pac 12 this season?

  • USC

    Votes: 13 38.2%

  • Stanford

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Washington

    Votes: 9 26.5%

  • Oregon

    Votes: 4 11.8%

  • UCLA

    Votes: 2 5.9%

  • Wazzu

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Utah

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Colorado

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Oregon St

    Votes: 2 5.9%

  • Cal

    Votes: 2 5.9%

  • Arizona St

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Arizona

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Total voters
    34
  • Poll closed .
The B10 west is an mirror image of the B12 north 10 years ago with all of the money power & influence in the other division. Only saving grace is the check at the end of the year.

That might be a tough reality to accept for Nebraska but cash rules.
 
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Speaking of, the Corral story:

Had multiple disciplinary issues at Oaks Christian, then beat up Wayne Gretzky's son over a girl.
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this should have never turned into a issue in the 1st place. if corral parents was the ones with the bigger pockets and sent more kids there we would of never heard about the fight.

and it doesnt matter what either side is saying we both know if he wants to go to SC at the end of day they will take him
 
Statis22 said:
The B10 west is an mirror image of the B12 north 10 years ago with all of the money power & influence in the other division. Only saving grace is the check at the end of the year.

That might be a tough reality to accept for Nebraska but cash rules.
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That's not necessarily a bad thing tho, the road to getting their **** together is a lot shorter than it would be in the East.  

Wiscky resource wise is really the only program that should be competing with them on a year to year basis, but unlike Wiscky, Nebraska can take advantage of the regions JC programs and take some borderline academic kids that Wiscky can't because of their administration.  

They are probably never going to be what they were in the 90's again, but the potential is certainty there for them to run that division. 
 
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Nako XL said:
 
Speaking of, the Corral story:

Had multiple disciplinary issues at Oaks Christian, then beat up Wayne Gretzky's son over a girl.
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this should have never turned into a issue in the 1st place. if corral parents was the ones with the bigger pockets and sent more kids there we would of never heard about the fight.

and it doesnt matter what either side is saying we both know if he wants to go to SC at the end of day they will take him
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I honestly hope they do take him. He's the 2nd or 3rd best QB in this class imo. But from everything I've been hearing and Helton's treatment of EJ Price and Noah Jefferson who were absolute studs, it's looking like he's drawing a hard line in the sand over behavior. He doesn't have a lot of cache as a head coach so I understand why he would want to control and limit distractions and negative locker room influences.

He's trying to embrace the Chris Petersen philosophy of coaching.
 
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That's not necessarily a bad thing tho, the road to getting their **** together is a lot shorter than it would be in the East.  

Wiscky resource wise is really the only program that should be competing with them on a year to year basis, but unlike Wiscky, Nebraska can take advantage of the regions JC programs and take some borderline academic kids that Wiscky can't because of their administration.  


They are probably never going to be what they were in the 90's again, but the potential is certainty there for them to run that division. 
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It wasn't a bad thing in the B12 either until Texas Tech was running them off the field :lol
 
Statis22 said:
 
Bobby Layne said:
 
Statis22 said:
 
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That's not necessarily a bad thing tho, the road to getting their **** together is a lot shorter than it would be in the East.  

Wiscky resource wise is really the only program that should be competing with them on a year to year basis, but unlike Wiscky, Nebraska can take advantage of the regions JC programs and take some borderline academic kids that Wiscky can't because of their administration.  


They are probably never going to be what they were in the 90's again, but the potential is certainty there for them to run that division. 
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It wasn't a bad thing in the B12 either until Texas Tech was running them off the field
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that was because of a terrible coaching hire which was the result of systemic administrative problems that are probably still there. 
 
Nako XL said:
Speaking of, the Corral story:

Had multiple disciplinary issues at Oaks Christian, then beat up Wayne Gretzky's son over a girl.

Was told to keep things clean by SC then had a verbal confrontation with staff at a camp, a situation that never got physical but escalated so much it got out of the camp and back to SC. Clay Helton called him, told him he was in the wrong and that SC would start recruiting a 2nd QB - basically gave him the ultimatum to get his **** together. MC got upset, the convo spiralled, and he felt he couldn't stay committed if they were gonna take 2 QBs. CH, as he did with EJ and Noah, told MC that it was prob best if both sides severed ties. Corral has been upset and telling people in private that SC chose sides against him in something mundane and he was forced out. SC people are saying he has discipline issues and doesn't take instruction or criticism well and that his reaction to the discipline was worse than the initial incidents.
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Bravo Helton. Respect. This kid is trouble. Thinks he's being picked on unfairly. Thats what happens when you're on a short leash




























I'll still take him though
 
Willing to bet a g plus the money for the other game on the fact that Daniels goes to Stanford. It's signed, sealed and delivered.
 
StanFan said:
It was $500 on stanford i thought? I can check but I know I ain't playing with money like that
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it was $500. I was being a jerk and showing i was more confident in +14 than a kid choosing a school. I don't trust these whipper snappers deciding on schools.
 
Speaking of betting, golden nugget spreads for "big games"

New WEEK 1
Date Away Home
Thursday, Aug. 31 Tulsa Oklahoma State (-18)
Saturday, Sept. 2 Maryland Texas (-19)

WEEK 2
Date Away Home
Saturday, Sept. 9 Nebraska Oregon (-7)
Saturday, Sept. 9 Pittsburgh Penn State (-17½)
Saturday, Sept. 9 TCU (-1) Arkansas
Saturday, Sept. 9 Auburn Clemson (-5½)
Saturday, Sept. 9 Oklahoma Ohio State (-7)
Saturday, Sept. 9 Georgia Notre Dame (-3)
Saturday, Sept. 9 Stanford USC (-9)
Saturday, Sept. 9 Utah BYU (-3)
Saturday, Sept. 9 Boise State Washington State (-7½)

WEEK 3
Date Away Home
Saturday, Sept. 16 LSU (-7½) Tennessee
Saturday, Sept. 16 Oklahoma State (-3½) Pittsburgh
Saturday, Sept. 16 Clemson Louisville (Pick 'em)
Saturday, Sept. 16 Tennessee Florida (-9½)
Saturday, Sept. 16 Wisconsin (-10) BYU
Saturday, Sept. 16 Oregon (-10½) Wyoming
Saturday, Sept. 16 Miami, Fl. Florida State (-12)
Saturday, Sept. 16 Texas USC (-12½)
Saturday, Sept. 16 Stanford (-9½) San Diego State

WEEK 4
Date Away Home
Friday, Sept. 22 Utah Arizona (Pick 'em)
Saturday, Sept. 23 UCLA Stanford (-9½)
Saturday, Sept. 23 Penn State (-12) Iowa
Saturday, Sept. 23 Oklahoma (-8) Baylor
Saturday, Sept. 23 TCU Oklahoma State (-4½)
Saturday, Sept. 23 Notre Dame (-4) Michigan State
Saturday, Sept. 23 (Arlington, TX) Arkansas Texas A&M (-6)

WEEK 5
Date Away Home
Friday, Sept. 29 USC (-10) Washington State
Saturday, Sept. 30 Clemson (-7) Virginia Tech
Saturday, Sept. 30 Baylor Kansas State (-3)
Saturday, Sept. 30 Georgia Tennessee (-1)

WEEK 6
Date Away Home
Thursday, Oct. 5 Louisville (-3½) N.C. State
Saturday, Oct. 7 Boise State BYU (-5½)
Saturday, Oct. 7 LSU (-2½) Florida
Saturday, Oct. 7 Alabama (-12½) Texas A&M
Saturday, Oct. 7 West Virginia TCU (-13½)
Saturday, Oct. 7 Kansas State Texas (-7)
Saturday, Oct. 7 Michigan State Michigan (-17)
Saturday, Oct. 7 Wisconsin (-8) Nebraska

WEEK 7
Date Away Home
Friday, Oct. 13 Washington State (-4) California
Saturday, Oct. 14 Utah USC (-20)
Saturday, Oct. 14 Oregon Stanford (-11)
Saturday, Oct. 14 Arkansas Alabama (-28)
Saturday, Oct. 14 Texas A&M Florida (-4)
Saturday, Oct. 14 Auburn LSU (-7)
Saturday, Oct. 14 Baylor Oklahoma State (-7)
Saturday, Oct. 14 (Dallas, TX) Oklahoma (-9½) Texas
Saturday, Oct. 14 TCU Kansas State (Pick 'em)
Saturday, Oct. 14 Ohio State (-15½) Nebraska
Saturday, Oct. 14 Boise State San Diego State (-3½)

WEEK 8
Date Away Home
Saturday, Oct. 21 Wyoming Boise State (-7)
Saturday, Oct. 21 Louisville Florida State (-8)
Saturday, Oct. 21 Tennessee Alabama (-24½)
Saturday, Oct. 21 Auburn (-7) Arkansas
Saturday, Oct. 21 West Virginia Baylor (-10)
Saturday, Oct. 21 Oklahoma (-9) Kansas State
Saturday, Oct. 21 Oklahoma State Texas (-3)
Saturday, Oct. 21 Oregon UCLA (-6½)
Saturday, Oct. 21 Michigan Penn State (-6½)
Saturday, Oct. 21 USC (-8) Notre Dame

WEEK 9
Date Away Home
Saturday, Oct. 28 Georgia Tech Clemson (-18)
Saturday, Oct. 28 UCLA Washington (-14½)
Saturday, Oct. 28 Utah Oregon (-10½)
Saturday, Oct. 28 Oklahoma State (-4½) West Virginia
Saturday, Oct. 28 Texas Baylor (-2)
Saturday, Oct. 28 Penn State Ohio State (-8½)
Saturday, Oct. 28 (Jacksonville, FL) Georgia Florida (-1)

WEEK 10
Date Away Home
Friday, Nov. 3 UCLA Utah (Pick 'em)
Saturday, Nov. 4 Oregon Washington (-13½)
Saturday, Nov. 4 Stanford (-5½) Washington State
Saturday, Nov. 4 Ohio State (-16) Iowa
Saturday, Nov. 4 Penn State (-13) Michigan State
Saturday, Nov. 4 Clemson (-6½) N.C. State
Saturday, Nov. 4 Virginia Tech Miami, Fl. (-6)
Saturday, Nov. 4 LSU Alabama (-12)
Saturday, Nov. 4 Oklahoma (-4) Oklahoma State
Saturday, Nov. 4 Texas TCU (-3)

WEEK 11
Date Away Home
Friday, Nov. 10 Washington Stanford (-1½)
Saturday, Nov. 11 Notre Dame Miami, Fl. (-6)
Saturday, Nov. 11 Iowa Wisconsin (-16½)
Saturday, Nov. 11 USC (-13½) Colorado
Saturday, Nov. 11 Michigan State Ohio State (-24½)
Saturday, Nov. 11 Georgia Auburn (-10)
Saturday, Nov. 11 Arkansas LSU (-16½)
Saturday, Nov. 11 Florida (-4½) South Carolina
Saturday, Nov. 11 Florida State Clemson (-2)
Saturday, Nov. 11 West Virginia Kansas State (-9½)
Saturday, Nov. 11 TCU Oklahoma (-13)

WEEK 12
Date Away Home
Saturday, Nov. 18 LSU (-7½) Tennessee
Saturday, Nov. 18 Kansas State Oklahoma State (-8)
Saturday, Nov. 18 Texas (-6) West Virginia
Saturday, Nov. 18 UCLA USC (-15½)
Saturday, Nov. 18 Nebraska Penn State (-17½)
Saturday, Nov. 18 Michigan Wisconsin (-3)
Saturday, Nov. 18 Pittsburgh Virginia Tech (-7½)

WEEK 13
Date Away Home
Friday, Nov. 24 Baylor TCU (-6)
Friday, Nov. 24 Iowa Nebraska (-3½)
Saturday, Nov. 25 Washington State Washington (-16)
Saturday, Nov. 25 Ohio State (-6) Michigan
Saturday, Nov. 25 West Virginia Oklahoma (-22)
Saturday, Nov. 25 Notre Dame Stanford (-9½)
Saturday, Nov. 25 Alabama (-6½) Auburn
Saturday, Nov. 25 Florida State (-4) Florida
Saturday, Nov. 25 Georgia (-2½) Georgia Tech
Saturday, Nov. 25 Texas A&M LSU (-12)
Saturday, Nov. 25 Clemson (-10) South Carolina

WEEK 15
Date Away Home
Saturday, Dec. 9 (Philadelphia, PA) Army Navy (-5)

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/story.cfm/story/1864450
 
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“I don’t want to start jumping into that hornet’s nest where someone’s quoting me as saying, ‘Well, this school ought to join the Big Ten,’ ” Osborne said during a media tour in greater Des Moines to promote his TeamMates mentoring organization.

“I do know people that I’ve talked to in the past who maybe have some interest. And so I think the Big Ten is a viable option.”
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https://www.landof10.com/nebraska/e...-schools-whove-shown-interest-joining-big-ten

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As a Michigan fan I'd love Texas and OU in the conference. Competition would be STOOPID :hat
 
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It be 
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, but part of me still sees those schools ending up in a conference where they can bring their lil bros along like the Pac 12. 

I'm thinking we're going to end up with KU and probably reaching for a school like UCONN to get to 16. 
 
Speaking of expansion
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 at that NJ.com writer complaining that Rutgers is getting screwed by the B1G. 

They have ZERO room to complain about anything. 
 
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