Official Billions Thread: Season 7 (Final Season), Episode 9 (10/6/23) - Game Theory Optimal

Criminals like Axe?

Nobody is talking about Chuck's record. You said he represents the gov. and this case they're undefeated. That's not the case.

Especially given Chuck's corruption.
Individuals like Axe, meaning people in the market who break the law. 

I just used Chuck's record as an example, you know art imitating life. His record on the show is a direct correlation of the U.S.'s record against Financial Sector crimes that were triad.

The U.S. Govt is undefeated against all financial crimes that they prosecuted, this is a known fact in Financial Law.
 
Chuck already lost against Axe though. Remember the ripped up check.
That was a plea/ settlement that they offered him. They didn't go to trial because if they did, Axe would have lost. Axe ultimately got the better of the situation because Chuck backed off. Remember why Chuck backed off from pursuing a trial? The back and forth between these two characters won't really count though until they're in a courtroom in a trial. With Chuck playing in the shadows we might not see that come to fruition. I'm confident though that Axe will end up in a trial sooner than later.
 
Chuck lost. Period.

Which is why he had to hack into his wife's computer for a work around.
 
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Chuck lost. Period.

Which is why he had to hack into his wife's computer for a work around.
Didn't lose in court, so no. Of course there are going to be events where both of these characters are up and down. A perfect example is Axe taking the hit in Sandicot. The real measure will be a showdown in court, where the stakes will be the highest and only then will a true winner or loser be determined.
 
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But Axe didn't take a hit. You're so hellbent on the idea of Chuck winning that you're providing Alternate Facts instead of what actually happened.

Axe stood to make a ton of money from Sandicot yes. But since he decided to gut the town, he didn't lose money. That's not a hit. He's in the exact same position he was in before the move happened.
 
But Axe didn't take a hit. You're so hellbent on the idea of Chuck winning that you're providing Alternate Facts instead of what actually happened.

Axe stood to make a ton of money from Sandicot yes. But since he decided to gut the town, he didn't lose money. That's not a hit. He's in the exact same position he was in before the move happened.
Not getting a Casino, which was the primary reason for investing is a hit. [emoji]128514[/emoji] @ alternative facts. You're such an Axe fanboy that you won't admit when something goes against him.
 
A hit is when you come out in the negative. Axe lost no capital from not getting the casino.

Axe before the casino was worth let's say 2 Billion
Axe + successfull casino is worth let's say 2.4 Billion
Axe not getting the casino is still worth 2 Billion

He didn't lose anything. It's a missed opportunity but not a hit. If Axe didn't gut then the town and lost those millions his team anticipated then you can say it was hit.

He's still in the same position he was in before even finding out about the possibility of a casino.
 
A hit is when you come out in the negative. Axe lost no capital from not getting the casino.

Axe before the casino was worth let's say 2 Billion
Axe + successfull casino is worth let's say 2.4 Billion
Axe not getting the casino is still worth 2 Billion

He didn't lose anything. It's a missed opportunity but not a hit. If Axe didn't gut then the town and lost those millions his team anticipated then you can say it was hit.

He's still in the same position he was in before even finding out about the possibility of a casino.

I could have sworn he sunk money into that Casino deal.

Hence he was adamant he needs to find a way to re-coup because he couldn't deal with the idea of having a bad quarter?
 
I could have sworn he sunk money into that Casino deal.

Hence he was adamant he needs to find a way to re-coup because he couldn't deal with the idea of having a bad quarter?
You're absolutely right, Mr Cashfl0w needs to go back and watch the episodes that explained exactly how long it's going to take to make the money they lost in the buy in back. Gutting the town was just the first step they needed to begin their recoup. 
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 @ thinking Axe got all of the money back by just gutting the town. It's a long process and they are hoping to come out on top. It's a hit anyway you put it, period.
 
You can always tell who watches the show and who doesn't in these debates.

Axe was going to have a bad quarter due to some Asian tech engineer committing suicide.His tech failed and Axe had money invested in the company.

Mafee then introduces Axe to the new black analyst who gives him information about Nigeria's government devaluing its currency. Axe tries to get the other big hedge fund companies on board to take a large position. The one guy screws him over and then Axe used Boyd to save himself.

Axe didn't tell Boyd he was going to get arrested aince he needed Boyd to go on that morning show. That's how Axe saved his quarter and kept his streak alive.

Go rewatch the season.
 
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You can always tell who watches the show and who doesn't in these debates.

Axe was going to have a bad quarter due to some Asian tech engineer committing suicide.His tech failed and Axe had money invested in the company.

Mafee then introduces Axe to the new black analyst who gives him information about Nigeria's government devaluing its currency. Axe tries to get the other big hedge fund companies on board to take a large position. The one guy screws him over and then Axe used Boyd to save himself.

Axe didn't tell Boyd he was going to get arrested aince he needed Boyd to go on that morning show. That's how Axe saved his quarter and kept his streak alive.

Go rewatch the season.
He got the first part right, but was off about the quarter. I like how you totally evaded the hit on Sandicot though, touche.
 
Because I already addressed that: Remember the big rountable meeting they had at Axe's crib.

Taylor comes up with the Austerity play. Since Axe owned the town, the town had to pay Axe first before anyone else.

One of the analyst even quit because he felt it was morally wrong after a session with Wendy which led to Axe screaming at her.

That's why Axe took the dumb statue and put it in his office. That's why Lara took the jet there to start the groundworks for charter schools.

This is then why Chuck went up there to cry foul about Axe gutting the town in the very next episode.

Only thing that took a hit was Axe's public persona in Upstate, NY.
 
People in here really think Chuck won :rofl: :rofl:

Let's count the Ls here folks:
1. Lost his fortune
2. Found out his wife went to see his billionaire nemesis right before his plan unfolded and before she saw him that night
3. Found out his wife got her back blown out by another billionaire
4. Lost his pops
5. Lost his best friend
6. Lost his chance at getting to Albany
7. Will lose his wife once she finds out he was behind the Ice Juice play

Bu bu bu but he got Axe doeeee :rofl: :rofl:
 
That's why there's some pity involved anybody siding with Chuck and rooting for him. Son is a loser that thinks he's the underdog.


Criminals like Axe?


Nobody is talking about Chuck's record. You said he represents the gov. and this case they're undefeated. That's not the case.


Especially given Chuck's corruption.

Individuals like Axe, meaning people in the market who break the law. 

I just used Chuck's record as an example, you know art imitating life. His record on the show is a direct correlation of the U.S.'s record against Financial Sector crimes that were triad.
You can not back your claim with statistical facts.

When you say undefeated you're talking about crimes where somebody was charged and arrested? Got a conviction? Or settle out of court?

You can't say the U.S. gov. is undefeated when there are several attorney generals in the states and it's broken up in several ways (by state, by region, federal level). Even when you specify it to financial crime.

The U.S. Govt is undefeated against all financial crimes that they prosecuted, this is a known fact in Financial Law.
Oh so you're purposely ignoring any case settled out of court.
 
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Anyone else in here watch the Americans? I just noticed that Pastor Tim is Dollar Bill :rofl:
 
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Great finale to a great season. Chuck has the saddest life possible. Also whenever they end the show, Wendy has to end up with Axe and Axe has to dump his wife.
I hope the show doesnt jump the shark next season. Not a lot of shows (if any) can keep up the quality after 3 seasons.
 
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If Axe ends up with Wendy that'll be too much for Chuck :lol:

This whole thing is about Wendy for him. I thought ******* her would just be the final straw. For Axe, to leave his wife when they both have kids to be together would be a life long L for Chuck.
 
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Wendy and Axe have special chemistry. Id say they have a deep respect and admiration for each other's intelligence. Whereas Axe's wife is just a dull housewife with no skills. I believe Axe would leave his wife (I cant even remember her name) in a heartbeat over Wendy
 
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Chuck in bed with Wendy right now thinking about all the ways Fake Elon Musk bent her over :smh:
 
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