OFFICIAL COMIC BOOK THREAD

[Master Zik]

I was in the local shop today and saw Civil War II #0 and almost picked it up. Then I realized I'm not about that crossover event life anymore. I can't do it man. I just want good self contained stories that don't require 15 other tie-ins. I might get the TPB when it's all collected for the mainline book.

If you just read the event that's a self contained story.

Tie-ins are not required or mandatory reading.

 

[Fresh Like Will]

I guess they're not required, but there's definitely going to be references to key moments from tie-ins. I'll see the notes in text boxes with an asterisk and feel the urge to buy that issue.

There's been moments when the big 2 do these events where something happens outside the mainline series and it's almost required. They used to deliberately put numbers in order across different series so you would buy more issues a month. Maybe it's just the stigma for me.

 

[ssjjfar]

Black Panther #1 sold over 250k, beating out Poe Dameron and DKIII for best selling last month.

#2 getting a 2nd printing with a Run the Jewels hip-hop variant cover.

 

[Fresh Like Will]

Black Panther outsold Star Wars AND Batman? That's insane.

Any Spawn fans? Anyone reading the current run? I've been collecting what I can from Spawn Resurrection #1 and Spawn #251- on. I heard Al was back and that the series was getting good again.

 

[Master Zik]

I legit fell off it way back and didn't get back in to it. Heard Al was coming back but still wasn't enough to make me pick it up.

 

[tay1]

How was BP#1? I heard good things about it.

 

[Master Zik]

It was good.

Nothing crazy amazing though. Need to see how this whole arc goes before I can call it great.

Coates set up some interesting thing so far.

 

[Master Zik]

If any of you care about DC's Rebirth don't read if you don't want to be spoiled

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/05...nd-you-wont-believe-dc-comics-has-gone-there/

Seems true and damn they just can't leave Alan Moore's work alone. Almost feels like a **** you from Johns to him.

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

If any of you care about DC's Rebirth don't read if you don't want to be spoiled

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/05...nd-you-wont-believe-dc-comics-has-gone-there/

Seems true and dann they just can't leave Alan Moore's work alone. Almost feels like a **** you from Johns to him.

That's actually pretty interesting

 

[Fresh Like Will]

I'm just going to assume Watchmen is involved after reading Zik's post.

Dr. Manhattan sees the future, past, and present at the same time and can teleport himself and others through space. It could be like Days of Future Past meets Flashpoint on steroids. That's kind of exciting to me. Even after my event fatigue.

 

[KingParappa]

That's beyond crazy.

 

[swaynomics930]

This makes me want to read a few more DC series. Cross overs should be interesting.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

What a terrible idea, leave it alone man.


Is nothing sacred? :x

 

[KingParappa]

What a terrible idea, leave it alone man.


Is nothing sacred? :x

nope not anymore

 

[Master Zik]

I'm just going to assume Watchmen is involved after reading Zik's post.

Hey it could've had something to do with the Killing Joke or his Swamp Thing run

But yeah it's Watchmen related. Johns is basically saying the reason why the New52 was all grim, dark and gritty is cuz Dr. Manhattan had a hand in making it. He's scapegoating a comic that set a new tone for comics 30 years ago as the reason why their attempt to basically make their comics universe more serious and violent across the board for 6 years failed.

Besides that not sitting right with me and them ignoring you need a balance the whole thing seems like a distraction to get fans to jump on if they were on the fence.

 

[jays25]

Well there'd be little to no point to involve Killing Joke, since the conclusion to the recent Batgirl run tried to retcon it as just being a bad dream on the part of Barbara Gordon, despite the fact that removing it would blatantly contradict various other events. Or excuse me let me not ignore what the writer said, which is that whether or not Killing Joke is canon can be open to the interpretation of the reader now

This Doctor Manhattan business is honestly on a similar level of foolishness, if not just silly in general. Your grand New 52 experiment failed so you've decided to do what? Place the blame on a story from decades ago? Jesus just admit you all ****** up on your own.

3 Jokers? More idiocy.

 

[Fresh Like Will]

I'm just going to assume Watchmen is involved after reading Zik's post.

Hey it could've had something to do with the Killing Joke or his Swamp Thing run

But yeah it's Watchmen related.

Thanks for the spoilers.

I remember watching that Rebirth press conference someone posted in here and they were talking about restoring things without removing history or something like that. There's beloved characters they could bring back and lame ones they could get rid of. It's like a starting point and continuing point at the same time. It makes it better for the writers to write their story without being bound by the laws set in the most recent one.

The most consistency they had for New 52 was Batman. Been loving The Vision and super stoked to read the new Batman run from Tom King and Scott Snyder is going to be doing All-Star Batman which has a pretty dope concept. But I'm ready to get into Rebirth for the other characters most of all. The Flash concept sounds interesting with all the new speedsters. I'm hoping that they bring back more cosmic characters for things other than Green Lantern cameos.

I obviously haven't read it yet, but it doesn't sound like it effects the Watchmen story, but it effects everyone else. At least the New 52 continuity. I don't mind that, but I definitely feel you and understand where you're coming from. Maybe they could of created a new character to fit the role, but older established characters are easier to sell. They brought in talented writers to craft new stories and they can't ignore the New 52, but they wanted these guys to be able to build their own stories without continuing with what the last guys did so they can double down on their strengths.

 

[Master Zik]

There's a bunch of characters they could've used instead if you don't want to make a new character.

Captain Atom for instance, the character Dr. Manhattan is based off to begin with. I mean Johns is the guy that had Superboy Prime punch reality to change it and Prime gets angry when things changed to just another reality he didn't like (Prime representing the angry fanboys on the internet).

It definitely doesn't change the Moore/Gibbons Watchmen but my bigger fear is just like when I at Before Watchmen, the majority of which wasn't good. This reveal opens the door to that universe and somehow placing those characters in this DC universe.

On the slight bright side, hopefully they bring my boy Vic Sage back and scrap that New52 magic trinity of sin origin. And yeah like you said I'll check back with Batman now that Zack is off that book. May check this JSA stuff as well.

I am not all hyped or hopeful for the other stuff that I heard about but I'm as open minded as I can be dealing with DC.

 

[jays25]

Trinity of Sin was trash and Pandora was the worst one of all.

 

[Fresh Like Will]

Never read Before Watchmen. I guess they could lead in to a potential Watchmen vs. the DCU with this. I don't want that either.

I'm going to assume you meant Scott Snyder. You didn't like the recent Batman run? (Court of Owls, Death of the Family, Endgame, Bloom.)

 

[Master Zik]

Yeah I was talking about Scott. Only Snyder writing comics right?

I don't dislike him and I was digging his run until Death of the Family. Just not digging his 3rd acts/conclusions. Can't comment on the run after that. I know loosely what happens in Zero Year and what he ends up doing with the whole Joker might be immortal stuff and this new villain that's built like a faceless Jack Skellington from A Nightmare before Xmas and I just was not digging the idea of Gordon filling in for Batman so I just never came back.

Loved Court of Owls though.

 

[KingParappa]

Court of Owls was fire

 

[jays25]

Zero Year was excellent. High point of his run in my opinion.

 

[Fresh Like Will]

Yeah I was talking about Scott. Only Snyder writing comics right?

I only put that because you said "Zack" up there.

If Zack Snyder wrote comics, Batman might get prison raped. :x

 

[Master Zik]

I confused the first names