OFFICIAL GAME OF THRONES THREAD | HOUSE OF THE DRAGON Premieres 8.21.22 | OFFICIAL TRAILER REVEALED

[lawdog1]

The good thing is, we can all decide if we would still like to continue watching 

Btw, what exactly is necessary in a story like this? Violence, maiming, rape etc. To me, the rape served a purpose, so I don't think it was unnecessary by any means

That's the point I keep coming back to. So much of what happens in GOT -- and what has happened since the beginning -- can be labeled gratuitous. Indeed, I think that's part of what has made the show popular. So, with that in mind, labeling some of that gratuitous content "necessary" and some it not, seems kind of arbitrary. I have no problem with people who hated the Sansa scene and are even considering quitting on the show because of it, but I don't think they need to claim that scene is so much different than other horrible stuff that's been depicted because it wasn't "necessary."

 

[RustyShackleford]

Theon burnt two lil children alive doe. His crimes far exceed Sansa's. So would argue that his "punishment" is light compared to what he deserves, which is death.

And the entire show is not all shock value. Don't act like Game of Thrones is some snuff film and that every should be ok with everything they show

The producers made a creative choice, people didn't like it. So their voicing their displeasure. That's par for the course with any popular TV series

^ So you've basically proved my point that the true anger comes from it being Sansa getting the short end of the stick (again).

Its on HBO, it has a TV MA rating..
this isn't a "family" show...
stop pretending that it is....
Yes it showed something people didn't like to see..... (YOU HAVE ALL BEEN SEEING THIS HAPPEN SINCE SEASON 1)

I'm saying what happen to Theon was his punishment for his crimes. And it established Ramsey as being a sadistic loon. It served a purpose in the story.

Sansa's rape did not to a lot of people. And it is nice you ignore the line about the scene being a creative choice.

I'm not in anyway pretending that Game of Thrones is family show, all I'm saying that doesn't mean it is some kind of fair warning

True Detective was also rated TV-MA, and dealt with child molestation. Yet it never once showed molestation on camera. So once again, please stop acting like people aren't allowed to upset about creative choices.

Shock value is not what this show is about, they didn't have to shoot or write the scene that way. They chose to do it that way. Find, it is their choice. But people got every right now to like this in the same way the they got every right to hate the Sopranos final scene ending.

And to the way the trollish way the scene was done, and people don't like seeing rape on camera, and Sansa is a main character who the audience was made to sympathized with. Then of course people will be upset

And please stop acting like everyone who hated the scene was cool with Danny's implied rape in S1, what Jamie did to Cersei, and the crows gang raping those girls after the mutiny. Or if they weren't at the same levels of this, that some how invalidates their opinion

But I guess god forbid you conisder some else's viewpoint.

 

[change the name Snyder]

 

i thought ghost and summer were with Bran after they sieged craster's keep?

I don't think so since, IIRC, Ghost got in on the battle when Mance's army attached the Wall. Which happened after Craster's.

i stand corrected.

hopefully the ghost x jon combo is around til the end 

setting myself up for disappointment with that statement. 

 

[tdogg2k]

I'm saying what happen to Theon was his punishment for his crimes. And it established Ramsey as being a sadistic loon. It served a purpose in the story.

Sansa's rape did not to a lot of people. And it is nice you ignore the line about the scene being a creative choice.
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Aren't you a book reader??? or started the book???
That creative choice wasn't just made up. the creative choice was to make it part of sansas story line, but this part of the story isn't made up at all.


If you're upset about the scene that's fine...

but to suddenly have such a morale high ground relating to this show is absurd imo.
all the stuff that goes on. AGAIN you know what it's about.....

As I said if it triggers or evokes this sort of emotion from you every time something you dont like happens on the show. then this show is possibly not for you...


All I'm saying is we're running on the 5th year GOT has been sent to our television screens....
Why are you surprised?
Then to be like the show is stretched or thinned out for doing things like this..... no they made choices in season 1-3 that has lead to this now.. (which i'm not saying is a bad thing)
The scene canon wise doesn't involve sansa, but in the show it does...
she is the one that has got the most crap bought on her mentally over anyone else in the show (show not book, and a bit debatable) .
You wanted to see her win. period.
this show isn't about happy endings.... were you really hoping stannis (who EVERYONE hated til this season) was going to come in and save her?


again im not telling you how to feel about this show... i'm just simply wondering what have YOU been watching the last 4 years/seasons???

 

[nako xl]

I don't think it's incorrect to say some lazy writing helped us get to this place, though. I understand the desire to defend a show you love, and that's fine. But people are just as correct in saying THESE choices didn't have to be made, and the way they were is deserving of some criticism. To say "to critique the plot decisions of the show means you don't get or like the show" is a simplization of the issues. I'm a show and book lover. And I think the writers do some lazy writing. The sansa storyline has been rushed to get to a place. That's not incorrect to say that. I get why it's been rushed but I'll also criticize it for that. The Dorne story line has been rushed and written lazily. The same problems with it are part of what lead to the gratuitous unnecessary violence issues. Because 56 minute TV serial drama is a medium that can lead to hurried plots and lack of buildup and thorough story consideration.

Notice even without the rape we have people who are ONLY show watchers asking "Wait... why did littlefinger go to winterfell at all?"

then to have the show writers say "because he doesn't know the Bolton's deal?" then you argue the rape is ok because everyone knows the Bolton's tendencies and what to expect, including Sansa?

Nah. I'm not buying it. They cut corners cuz they wanted to get sansa back up north.

it's ok to say you weren't that bothered by it, but don't come at people who are.

 

[Mark Antony]

I think we're all in for the most **** ending to this series possible.

 

[HNL HI]

I just can't wait for Cersei to get what's coming to her because she acts as if it's not known all over Kings Landing that Tommen is a product of incest and I damn sure don't understand why the High Septon isn't bringing charges up on her for sleeping with her cousin Lancel since he confessed his sins to join the faith militant

But I will wait because that ace has to be up Lady Olenna's sleeve. Threatening to take money and food away from the Lannister's isn't enough

Dude ain't doing nothing to CerseI cause dudes a crock. Sparrows just another cult bruh.

 

[rolaholic]

Eh I'd say the Sparrows are way more unpredictable than you'd expect,they're not afraid to step to ANYONE in the name of the faith. They just arrested the damn Queen for the seven's sake

 

[sfc415]

Tommen is the most incompetent husband/king

 

[rolaholic]

Tommen is the most incompetent husband/king

Joffery would've turned that interview session into a bloodbath with the High Sparrows head on a spike before dinner

 

[HNL HI]

They follow the high sparrow and dude works for Cersei. I don't see where the confusion is.

 

[rolaholic]

They follow the high sparrow and dude works for Cersei. I don't see where the confusion is.

Cersei got him his position sure but don't be mistaken,he only follows orders from the seven

 

[tomdiginson]

Cersei got him his position sure but don't be mistaken,he only follows orders from the seven

This. Don't think for a moment that he wont flip on her as well.

 

[HNL HI]

Obviously it's yet to be determined but dude is just another false prophet in my opinion. Dude getting paid one way or another. Also Cersei got the white cloaks so she probably ain't worried.

 

[sfc415]

The king can order the Sparrows to be crushed if he wanted to/had the balls to. You saw what happened when he went to "confront" them

 

[rolaholic]

Margaery has the Kingsguard too but what good does that do when the Kings balls are held right by his Queen Mother?

Cersei opened another huge can of worms by reassembling the faith militant with all the unholy deeds shes's done . Those dudes give absolutely no damns in defense of the faith . That Lannister sparrow nut was ready to step to Littlefinger right in the middle of town with Littlefingers banner men right there too .

 

[Fozz]

Oh, I forgot to add...I was dissapointed with the death Ser Barristen Selmy. I thought he was the Knight of Knights!?!?!?!?!

 

[IATT]

 

They follow the high sparrow and dude works for Cersei. I don't see where the confusion is.

Cersei got him his position sure but don't be mistaken,he only follows orders from the seven

exactly.. he is only currently reacting to information he is getting from cersei..

if he is playing dumb on what he knows about cersei, it's because he is waiting until he gets enough power to then use that information against her, tommen and whoever else

 

[change the name Snyder]

 
Oh, I forgot to add...I was dissapointed with the death Ser Barristen Selmy. I thought he was the Knight of Knights!?!?!?!?!

he was old, outnumbered, saved his comrade, and technically won.

went out like a G

 

[rolaholic]

Word, I felt that he had a badass end for his badass reputation . He's old as hell at this point and he still took out more than a few of those **** boys and Grey Worm survived when it looked like it was over from the get go being outnumbered by over 10 men.

 

They follow the high sparrow and dude works for Cersei. I don't see where the confusion is.

Cersei got him his position sure but don't be mistaken,he only follows orders from the seven

exactly.. he is only currently reacting to information he is getting from cersei..

if he is playing dumb on what he knows about cersei, it's because he is waiting until he gets enough power to then use that information against her, tommen and whoever else

All setting up for probably the most entertaining home stretch of the season we've seen so far

 

[jape]

No. People just don't like rape. Period. Which is understandable.

But the logic and reasoning people are coming up with to skate around or pair with that fact as if they need more evidence is pretty funny.

These social justice keyboard warriors are trying to ruin everything. Get outta here . Don't mess up GoT for me.

This and this.

People want to act like they know what's necessary and unnecessary for the show when we haven't even seen what happens.
And then people act like they are mad, not because it's a rape scene, but because it's "unnecessary". **** outta here...where were all these essays for all the other unecessary scenes.

And to justify Joffrey's madness but then get mad at Ramsey's scene because of ******** reasons... Yall are confused.

 

[jape]

he was old, outnumbered, saved his comrade, and technically won.

went out like a G

he's technically dead that's never a W. But he did go out like the slowest old man to act like he's a warrior ever.

 

[RustyShackleford]

I'm saying what happen to Theon was his punishment for his crimes. And it established Ramsey as being a sadistic loon. It served a purpose in the story.

Sansa's rape did not to a lot of people. And it is nice you ignore the line about the scene being a creative choice.
l

Aren't you a book reader??? or started the book???
That creative choice wasn't just made up. the creative choice was to make it part of sansas story line, but this part of the story isn't made up at all.


If you're upset about the scene that's fine...

but to suddenly have such a morale high ground relating to this show is absurd imo.
all the stuff that goes on. AGAIN you know what it's about.....

As I said if it triggers or evokes this sort of emotion from you every time something you dont like happens on the show. then this show is possibly not for you...


All I'm saying is we're running on the 5th year GOT has been sent to our television screens....
Why are you surprised?
Then to be like the show is stretched or thinned out for doing things like this..... no they made choices in season 1-3 that has lead to this now.. (which i'm not saying is a bad thing)
The scene canon wise doesn't involve sansa, but in the show it does...
she is the one that has got the most crap bought on her mentally over anyone else in the show (show not book, and a bit debatable) .
You wanted to see her win. period.
this show isn't about happy endings.... were you really hoping stannis (who EVERYONE hated til this season) was going to come in and save her?


again im not telling you how to feel about this show... i'm just simply wondering what have YOU been watching the last 4 years/seasons???

And I'm wondering if YOU even read any of my post.

Because brah, how can we have a civil convo on this when you just want to put words in my mouth?

The book scene and show scene were different. The producer make creative changes, I wasn't feeling this one. A lot of other people too.

But with all due respect brah, discuss/debate what I have actually said. Not what you think I feel based on

 

[TipsyMcStagga]

Sen. Claire McCaskill: 'OK, I'm done' with 'Game of Thrones'

Washington (CNN) HBO's "Game of Thrones" lost a viewer Tuesday morning: Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill.

The Democrat, an avid tweeter, cited a particularly "gratuitous rape scene" that ended the most recent episode Sunday night as her reason for signing off.

"Ok, I'm done Game of Thrones.Water Garden, stupid.Gratuitous rape scene disgusting and unacceptable.It was a rocky ride that just ended," McCaskill tweeted Tuesday morning.

The blockbuster HBO fantasy series, based on George R. R. Martin novels and now in its fifth season, has been characterized by its extreme violence and sex since it began in 2010.

Since arriving in Washington in 2007, McCaskill has been a vocal advocate on issues related to sexual violence, including cosponsoring legislation targeting sexual assault's prevalence on college campuses and in the military.

She's also known for her active embrace of Twitter, using the social media platform to share her often relatively unfiltered opinions on politics as well as pop culture, technology and sports.

 

[change the name Snyder]

She'll be byke

all this fabricated outrage has been amusing

just imagine if they actually showed the sex