**Official Kendrick Lamar Thread 4th Studio Album ''DAMN.''Out Now**

[jaycoast21]

But why do we need to tell white folks that this music isn't for them? What purpose does that serve other than ostricizing and making those people who enjoy the album feel unwelcome. This is an album that everyone needs to hear.

Hell, maybe some white folks who don't really understand need to hear this more than those folks that it was 'made for' who deal with and know this struggle everyday.

Point is, there is a lot of learning that we can ALL take from this music. We all have different perspectives, but the message is a good one for EVERYONE to hear.

Repped, didn't even think about that.

 

[Deleted member 37467]

 

[trill nimley]

But why do we need to tell white folks that this music isn't for them? What purpose does that serve other than ostricizing and making those people who enjoy the album feel unwelcome. This is an album that everyone needs to hear.

Hell, maybe some white folks who don't really understand need to hear this more than those folks that it was 'made for' who deal with and know this struggle everyday.

Point is, there is a lot of learning that we can ALL take from this music. We all have different perspectives, but the message is a good one for EVERYONE to hear.

Problem is the good white folk that ARE Listenin to the album think it's OK to make jokes about Africa.

If that's what the people that ARE buying this are joking about just imagine how their aunts and uncles who aren't Listenin to it are sayin about our people and culture.

I don't think Kendrick made this album for white guys in Vegas to use volunteering at a shelter as a pass to clown Africans.

Kendrick made this album to expose this and now it's right in OUR face.

I'm convinced some of y'all are truly comprehending the subject matter TOTALLY wrong.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I think it's good white people can like and enjoy this album but make no mistake this is as pro black/against white supremacy as any album. From the album cover to the music. I think the album was made for all people to hear it but it specifically speaks to and for black people. The problems from the past and the present.

Co-sign. It's a trip how some people can't admit this or are too blind to realize it. This album reminds me a lot of X-Clan, not necessarily the music, but the message and the intended audience.

I don't think anyone disputed that. The issue is coming in here and telling people the music wasn't made for you because you aren't black. Regardless of Kendrick's intention, that isn't for us to speculate.

All it does is take the whole discussion off track. Let the music speak for itself. It speaks very loudly. We don't need people to throw around blanket statements and try to draw a line that says ___ people are outsiders.

As you can see it hasn't done anything to elevate the discussion. All it's done is brought it to pot shots and petty name calling.

The music speaks for itself.

True. Most of the people that gave this album perfect reviews are white, it probably opened their eyes to what young black men today go through and that's a great thing. These type of conversations are needed and salute to Kendrick for sparking it. Nay makes some good points though, he just has a Dame Dash way of putting it lol.

 

[Deleted member 37467]

But why do we need to tell white folks that this music isn't for them? What purpose does that serve other than ostricizing and making those people who enjoy the album feel unwelcome. This is an album that everyone needs to hear.

Hell, maybe some white folks who don't really understand need to hear this more than those folks that it was 'made for' who deal with and know this struggle everyday.

Point is, there is a lot of learning that we can ALL take from this music. We all have different perspectives, but the message is a good one for EVERYONE to hear.

Problem is the good white folk that ARE Listenin to the album think it's OK to make jokes about Africa.

If that's what the people that ARE buying this are joking about just imagine how their aunts and uncles who aren't Listenin to it are sayin about our people and culture.

I don't think Kendrick made this album for white guys in Vegas to use volunteering at a shelter as a pass to clown Africans.

Kendrick made this album to expose this and now it's right in OUR face.

I'm convinced some of y'all are truly comprehending the subject matter TOTALLY wrong.

Clowning Africans?

Just stop, bruh.

You said a million wild things in here, I said one.

I'm not offended by nothing anyone has had to say, yet 4 ppl in act like their panties are in a twist over 1 comment.

if you can't take it, don't dish it.

I have respect for good people regardless of color/creed.

Now, I'm going to extend my e hand and hopefully stop this foolish back and forth.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Like I said, the music speaks for itself. He holds no punches and gets right to the point all over this album.

People are going to take out of it what they will whether y'all are in here drawing fake lines in the sand and separating us all based on who we think is 'allowed' or 'welcome' or not.

Let the music speak for itself. This talk of 'insiders' and 'outsiders' hasn't elevated this discussion. We're talking in circles.

If any album ever spoke for itself without needing people on an internet forum telling other people on an internet forum that they ain't allowed, this is it.

 

[trill nimley]

Unlike you, I have family in Africa (Liberia).

I'm the FIRST one in my family born in America

This is will ALWAYS be a 'No Fly Zone' for African jokes.

Most black people don't really take too kindly to Africa jokes, but if your interaction with black people extended further than NT, Spotify and Volunteer work for a bunch of people who don't know when to stop inserting coins into penny slots You might be a lil sensitive to the subject.

But I'm just a black man. What do I know.

 

[Deleted member 37467]

Like I said, if you can't take it, don't dish it.

I forgot your silly Jim Carey joke 2 seconds after I read it.

Let me know when you're willing to squash this stupid e "beef".

Also, you look extremely ignorant talking down on the people that I choose to contribute to.

Everyone goes thru ****, homie, and you're not really in a position to judge.

None of us are.

My e hand still extended, bruh.

 

[trill nimley]

If calling a white guy Jim Carey (who was LOVED by blacks since the 'In Living Color' days) is equal to a joke about people dying of starvation then there's nothin productive I can talk to you about

 

[Deleted member 37467]

It's not really my fault that your jokes suck, man.

You say things that are meant to offend, and then get upset when someone fires back?

Just give it up, man.

I was called a rapist and a pedophile, who cares? I'm over here laughing about it.

We both said stupid stuff, let's move on like adults and enjoy this album.

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[htg designs]

Yo I cant even bend my mind to phathom what his next album gon sound like. But I know its gon be

 

[trill nimley]

If you don't get that Neanderthal hand the **** outta here.

 

[Deleted member 37467]

If you don't get that Neanderthal hand the **** outta here.

Good thing you edited, because your first response was awful,

Yo I cant even bend my mind to phathom what his next album gon sound like. But I know its gon be

Hopefully we don't have to wait as long this time.

 

[Remy LeBeau]

Let's not start talking about thoughts of his next album

 

[the shoe]

I'm white and I love the album, if that matters.

I think it's incredible that an artist in Kendrick's position put this album out, and I think the success and acclaim it has had so far is incredible as well (and justified). 

 

[AZwildcats]

Yo this Trill dude is hilarious, really trolled magnificently. Its the type of troll that we needed on NT, not the weak stuff we've been accustomed to

He got you to post your address on here Hyper? Cmon my dude you've been here long enough to know the deal

 

[trynafeelmink]

But why do we need to tell white folks that this music isn't for them? What purpose does that serve other than ostricizing and making those people who enjoy the album feel unwelcome. This is an album that everyone needs to hear.

Hell, maybe some white folks who don't really understand need to hear this more than those folks that it was 'made for' who deal with and know this struggle everyday.

Point is, there is a lot of learning that we can ALL take from this music. We all have different perspectives, but the message is a good one for EVERYONE to hear.

Nobody is disputing that the album can or should be listened to by everybody, we are simply stating that this was made for BLACK people. the message the energy the stories are all much more impactful for the average black man then the average white man it's that simple. Hopefully some white people hear this album and begin to study the problems talked about on a deeper note. However this attitude that black people have nowadays has got to stop. We calmly take the blame and claim all the negatice parts of the culture.

We don't fight when the media talks about gang violence as if it's only a black thing, poverty as if it's only a black thing, Bad parenting as if it's only a black thing..... yet the second we want to take our rightful claim and say Hiphop is a black form of music... suddenly guys come out the woodwork and claim that we're excluding other people and it's an unfair statement.

Hiphop culture is available for everybody to enjoy and listen too, however EVERYTHING about this culture derived from black/latino culture, the messages are through the scope of black youth, the neighborhoods talked about are black, the specific struggles outlined are heavily endured by black people. So i'm sorry if a few people may have a problem feeling a bit excluded out of rap.

Black people feel excluded too, in the justice system, in the financial system, on a social scale etc etc. These literally weren't constructed with viewing black people as human and yet, 50 years later America still seems to exclude us and clearly refuses to let go of the notion that "America" is a country for Whites.

 

[Deleted member 37467]

Yo this Trill dude is hilarious, really trolled magnificently. Its the type of troll that we needed on NT, not the weak stuff we've been accustomed to

He got you to post your address on here Hyper? Cmon my dude you've been here long enough to know the deal

I know what he is,

I think I actually got banned once MAD long ago going back and forth w/ him when his name was Harlem something or other.

It's a Monday and work is slow, I don't mind playing along.

 

[starchild9702]

My opinion
1) this is an album very eclectic and uses heavy influences from jazz and funk.
2) it was his expression of social issues important to him and intended to shine a light on things he thought were important.
3) clearly most of the album reflects his experience of visiting Africa and how that experience changed his life.
4) he talks about his struggles and shares his spiritual beliefs. luci represents many things not just white people.
5) he has a message for the black youth specifically.

Let's just all rejoice that an artist took the time to make a piece of art expressing his feelings without worrying about pleasing the masses. He put it out for everyone to consume not just blacks. This album has a different meaning to black males than white males and that's ok it doesn't mean we can't both appreciate a masterpiece. It's just art meant to provoke a thought in everybody especially blacks. Bottom line it was a personal album that relates to everyone in some type of way but envokes certain feelings in only black people because you can never simulate being black in America. I would say the same thing if EM made an album about coming up in the hip hop culture.

 

[kal-el-8]

I'm indian, am I allowed to like the album?

 

[AZwildcats]

Yo this Trill dude is hilarious, really trolled magnificently. Its the type of troll that we needed on NT, not the weak stuff we've been accustomed to

He got you to post your address on here Hyper? Cmon my dude you've been here long enough to know the deal

I know what he is,

I think I actually got banned once MAD long ago going back and forth w/ him when his name was Harlem something or other.

It's a Monday and work is slow, I don't mind playing along.

Alright then, keep chugging

 

[AZwildcats]

Guess I'll put my two cents in, this whole the album was intended for black people argument is pointless. Kendrick wrote this album from a black perspective with black narratives on it and a historically black influence. However to say this album was written for black people is stupid, no it wasn't. It might be the most relatable to black people, but to say it was solely intended for black people to digest is just incorrect. Thats like saying Mandela wanted equality for only black people

 

[blackcease]

We don't fight when the media talks about gang violence as if it's only a black thing, poverty as if it's only a black thing, Bad parenting as if it's only a black thing..... yet the second we want to take our rightful claim and say Hiphop is a black form of music... suddenly guys come out the woodwork and claim that we're excluding other people and it's an unfair statement.

Hiphop culture is available for everybody to enjoy and listen too, however EVERYTHING about this culture derived from black/latino culture, the messages are through the scope of black youth, the neighborhoods talked about are black, the specific struggles outlined are heavily endured by black people. So i'm sorry if a few people may have a problem feeling a bit excluded out of rap.

Black people feel excluded too, in the justice system, in the financial system, on a social scale etc etc. These literally weren't constructed with viewing black people as human and yet, 50 years later America still seems to exclude us and clearly refuses to let go of the notion that "America" is a country for Whites.

That's real talk. And it's exactly what the term culture vulture is meant to address. Black and Latin folks who came from nothing built this music that took over the world and now everybody has their hand in the pot and feels they should have some sort of claim to it, when alot of those same people couldn't give a damn about the black and latin folks they see all around them day to day. It's disgusting. The fact that black people are still co-signing Iggy Azalea's racist *** and letting her capitalize off the music just blows my mind :x.

I don't like the blanket statement of labeling any white person a culture vulture, but like somebody else mentioned earlier, those same SAE pieces of **** who were singing about hanging ******* were probably partying to music made by said ******* later that night. And there are heads of record labels like that. And A&Rs, and managers, and even artists (Iggy). That incongruity doesn't sit well with me at all. It shouldn't sit well with any black person in this country, especially given the racial climate we're in right now. And really, regardless of your race, if you're truly not a culture vulture, it shouldn't sit well with you either.

On one hand, I don't like the idea of being so divisive as to say the album ain't for white people, I don't really agree with that, and it could really turn off somebody who truly has a respect for the music and it's creators. But on the other hand, I'm really ******* tired of the ********. I'm tired of seeing people that don't give a **** about black people profit off black people, or contribute to the culture in any way shape or form really. It's tired man, it really is.

 

[letsgetit22]

TPAB got me critiquing everybody **** hard now. Smh! Couldn't even really listen to future new mixtap. I'll give it another try next week though. Haha!

 

[MVP]

I usually mess with Future but I listened to his mixtape and immediately trashed it. K.Dot got my musical taste in one lane right now