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[mmg]

Originally Posted by SHUGES

The funniest thing to me is how no one ever seems to be happy with the moves their franchise makes. Well at least when it comes the Bulls, Knicks, and Lakers. Anyone read through their season threads after draft night?

Bulls fans because they got spoiled by MJ

Knicks fans because NYers think their team/franchise is made of gold

Lakers fans because the newer generation is used to being bailed out (Shaq coming, The Gasol Trade, Kobe getting his calls)

 

[darthska]

Don't just stop w/ Shaq.

'Bailed out' by acquisitions of Gasol, Shaq, Kareem, Wilt... throw in some skilled role players like Artest, Odom, Horry, Rice...

Right now, though, feelsbatman

 

[ripc]

Happy with the KG deal. We get him for three more years, and then he and P2 retire Celtics.

Hopefully we still have $$$ to re-sign JG/Bass.

 

[Bert.]

Originally Posted by RipC

Happy with the KG deal. We get him for three more years, and then he and P2 retire Celtics.

Hopefully we still have $$$ to re-sign JG/Bass.

Pierce better retire a Celtic

wouldnt put it past Ainge to do him dirty

 

[franchise3]

Like KLJ said, $325 over TWENTY YEARS.

. Respect, though. These dudes were up 3-2 with a close out game at home away from a trip to the Finals. Might as well come back. And he can take them young dudes they just drafted under his wing.

 

[mmg]

Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

Don't just stop w/ Shaq.

'Bailed out' by acquisitions of Gasol, Shaq, Kareem, Wilt... throw in some skilled role players like Artest, Odom, Horry, Rice...

Right now, though, feelsbatman

never said anything about kareem and wilt, but no shaq you dont win those chips.

Lakers fans because the newer generation is used to being bailed out (Shaq coming, The Gasol Trade, Kobe getting his calls)

Lakers fans because the newer generation is used to being bailed out (Shaq coming, The Gasol Trade, Kobe getting his calls)

Lakers fans because the newer generation is used to being bailed out (Shaq coming, The Gasol Trade, Kobe getting his calls)

 

[doyung9]

Signing KG was Boston basically saying "Come back, Ray".

 

[darthska]

I mean, i know you said 'newer generation', but that's exactly my point; it ain't nothing new.

 

[nooera]

Good %%%* KG

 

[ill steelo]

Originally Posted by Kevin Cleveland

Garnett re-signs for three years, $34 million.

Even at 35  this guy still gets contracts that pay him 8 figures annually.

Guess he's content with that 1 ring.

 

[lavious]

Originally Posted by ill steelo

Originally Posted by Kevin Cleveland

Garnett re-signs for three years, $34 million.

Even at 35  this guy still gets contracts that pay him 8 figures annually.

Guess he's content with that 1 ring.

Think he's too proud to chase a ring. Realistically where else was he supposed to go?

 

[scientific method]

 

[nooera]

Originally Posted by ill steelo

Originally Posted by Kevin Cleveland

Garnett re-signs for three years, $34 million.

Even at 35  this guy still gets contracts that pay him 8 figures annually.

Guess he's content with that 1 ring.

If you think the Celtics arent contending for a title this year then you're tripping. Definitely a top 4 seed in the East. Once the playoffs starts anything happens. We all know the Celtics would have smanged the Thunder in the Finals. That means the C's were one game away from banner #18. OJ Mayo is coming to play in the bean as well. Excited for this year to say the least.

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Hell barring a major trade if the Celtics just resign their free agents they are hands down the second best team in the East.


D-Rose ain't playing next year and if does he won't be 100%

 

[mgrand15]

Originally Posted by JapanAir21

Originally Posted by Proshares

It's Hollinger JA and I think the $8.5mm figure is as of right now without any of those moves. He goes into the rest of their moves to increase the cap space in the next paragraph.

That's what I was getting at. The numbers don't make sense BEFORE the moves we can make. We're at about 14 without any moves right now.

Do you really think everyone elses numbers are off and yours are right? Dirk, Haywood and Marion alone take up a HUGE chunk of the cap. Throw in the other players you have under contract and Dallas only has about 8 mil until they amnesty Haywood.

Dirk, Dwight, and Deron is a media dream. People assume because Dallas is a big market and they have a good owner, it'll just magically happen. It's NOT realistic. They will clear enough cap for Deron but even that's farfetched at this point.

 

[franchise3]

Originally Posted by Lavious

Originally Posted by ill steelo

Originally Posted by Kevin Cleveland

Garnett re-signs for three years, $34 million.

Even at 35  this guy still gets contracts that pay him 8 figures annually.

Guess he's content with that 1 ring.

Think he's too proud to chase a ring. Realistically where else was he supposed to go?

Celtics or retire. KG is a loyal dude. He stayed in Minny longer than he should have.

 

[scientific method]

Originally Posted by NooEra

Originally Posted by Kevin Cleveland

Garnett re-signs for three years, $34 million.

Even at 35  this guy still gets contracts that pay him 8 figures annually.

Guess he's content with that 1 ring.

If you think the Celtics arent contending for a title this year then you're tripping. Definitely a top 4 seed in the East. Once the playoffs starts anything happens. We all know the Celtics would have smanged the Thunder in the Finals. That means the C's were one game away from banner #18. OJ Mayo is coming to play in the bean as well. Excited for this year to say the least.

Celtics would have gotten run out of the building against the Thunder.

 

[ill steelo]

Originally Posted by NooEra

If you think the Celtics arent contending for a title this year then you're tripping. Definitely a top 4 seed in the East. Once the playoffs starts anything happens. We all know the Celtics would have smanged the Thunder in the Finals. That means the C's were one game away from banner #18. OJ Mayo is coming to play in the bean as well. Excited for this year to say the least.

They haven't beaten the Heat the past two seasons, and this year they couldn't beat them even when Bosh couldn't play starters minutes for 5 games.

You saw how when Bosh's role increased in the last 2 games, Garnett disappeared from the series & was outplayed by Bosh in G7. This was after he played him to a draw in the second round last year.

If they meet up for the third straight year, Boston is going home for the third straight year. Hell, I'd take an 80% Derrick Rose & his squad over BOS since they can put Deng on PP & Noah on Garnett and SLAUGHTER them on the glass.

And OJ Mayo? The guy who has never posted a league average PER once in his career? The guy with career playoff stats of 35% shooting with 46 assists to 35 turnovers? Man please. Talkin bout OJ Mayo

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Originally Posted by mgrand15

Originally Posted by JapanAir21

Originally Posted by Proshares

It's Hollinger JA and I think the $8.5mm figure is as of right now without any of those moves. He goes into the rest of their moves to increase the cap space in the next paragraph.

That's what I was getting at. The numbers don't make sense BEFORE the moves we can make. We're at about 14 without any moves right now.

Do you really think everyone elses numbers are off and yours are right? Dirk, Haywood and Marion alone take up a HUGE chunk of the cap. Throw in the other players you have under contract and Dallas only has about 8 mil until they amnesty Haywood.

Dirk, Dwight, and Deron is a media dream. People assume because Dallas is a big market and they have a good owner, it'll just magically happen. It's NOT realistic. They will clear enough cap for Deron but even that's farfetched at this point.

After the Odom trade Dallas has around 44 million in contracts on the books for next year.

The NBA salary cap is expect to go up and but even if it doesn't its 58 million.

Where are you getting this 8?

 

[nooera]

Everything changes when you're playing with Rondo. If OJ comes to the Celtics and teams up with the best PG in the league, OJs potential will be reached. DRose isnt doing +#!$ next year

he wont be at 80%; he'll be at 0% because he wont be playing.

We had KG at the 5. If we had a legit center we would have beaten the Heat easily even with Bosh. We lost Bradley, Green, O'Neal and Wilcox to injury and still brought them to 7 games. If we come back full strength and add a couple pieces, i truly believe the Celtics will be in the Finals next year. Dont sleep steelo.

 

[ill steelo]

Originally Posted by Lavious

Think he's too proud to chase a ring. Realistically where else was he supposed to go?

Yeah, but I would've like to see him with SAS.

They'd improve defensively, he gives them another post option, opens the offense even more with his reliable jumper, and his unselfishness is a perfect fit for what they like to do offensively.

 

[mgrand15]

Originally Posted by SneakerPro

Originally Posted by mgrand15

Originally Posted by JapanAir21



That's what I was getting at. The numbers don't make sense BEFORE the moves we can make. We're at about 14 without any moves right now.

Do you really think everyone elses numbers are off and yours are right? Dirk, Haywood and Marion alone take up a HUGE chunk of the cap. Throw in the other players you have under contract and Dallas only has about 8 mil until they amnesty Haywood.

Dirk, Dwight, and Deron is a media dream. People assume because Dallas is a big market and they have a good owner, it'll just magically happen. It's NOT realistic. They will clear enough cap for Deron but even that's farfetched at this point.

After the Odom trade Dallas has around 44 million in contracts on the books for next year.

The NBA salary cap is expect to go up and but even if it doesn't its 58 million.

Where are you getting this 8?

8 was an estimate but here's a post from a Mavs blog.

Nowitzki – 20,907,128
Marion – 8,396,364
Carter – 3,090,000
Beaubois – 2,227,333
Jones – 1,276,560
Wright – 992,680
Cap hold for pick 24 (until signed) – 993,600
Cap hold for Mahinmi (until signed) – 854,389
4 cap holds for empty roster slots at 473,604 each – 1,894,416
TOTAL – 40,632,170
Signing room available with 58.044M cap – 17,411,530

That's after amnestying Haywood. Add in Haywood's 9ish million and that's where the 8 comes from. Deron would take up every bit of that 17 million by the way.

 

[ill steelo]

Originally Posted by NooEra

Everything changes when you're playing with Rondo. If OJ comes to the Celtics and teams up with the best PG in the league, OJs potential will be reached. DRose isnt doing +#!$ next year

he wont be at 80%; he'll be at 0% because he wont be playing.

He didn't have microfracture surgery like Kidd & Amar'e. Dudes come back from ACL injuries the next season all the time.

And Mayo is nothing more than a good shooter. That's the only thing he does at an above average level. I would use him exactly like Ray Allen, if not he's destined to fail.

Originally Posted by NooEra

We had KG at the 5. If we had a legit center we would have beaten the Heat easily even with Bosh. We lost Bradley, Green, O'Neal and Wilcox to injury and still brought them to 7 games. If we come back full strength and add a couple pieces, i truly believe the Celtics will be in the Finals next year. Dont sleep steelo.

Who is this "legit center" that you're going to sign to beat MIA after spending money on OJ?

KG will be right back at the 5 next season & won't be nearly as dominant with Bosh on the floor.

 

[scuse7]

Originally Posted by ill steelo

Originally Posted by NooEra

Everything changes when you're playing with Rondo. If OJ comes to the Celtics and teams up with the best PG in the league, OJs potential will be reached. DRose isnt doing +#!$ next year

he wont be at 80%; he'll be at 0% because he wont be playing.

He didn't have microfracture surgery like Kidd & Amar'e. Dudes come back from ACL injuries the next season all the time.

And Mayo is nothing more than a good shooter. That's the only thing he does at an above average level. I would use him exactly like Ray Allen, if not he's destined to fail.

Originally Posted by NooEra

We had KG at the 5. If we had a legit center we would have beaten the Heat easily even with Bosh. We lost Bradley, Green, O'Neal and Wilcox to injury and still brought them to 7 games. If we come back full strength and add a couple pieces, i truly believe the Celtics will be in the Finals next year. Dont sleep steelo.

Who is this "legit center" that you're going to sign to beat MIA after spending money on OJ?

KG will be right back at the 5 next season & won't be nearly as dominant with Bosh on the floor.

Dude what should we do? Not try and get a better team?
KG was always coming back, no question there. Great for Fab and Sullinger. Need to go get Jeff Green. Hope Bradley gets much better. Then grab some dudes in FA.

 

[bigmike23]

Originally Posted by NooEra

Originally Posted by ill steelo

Originally Posted by Kevin Cleveland

Garnett re-signs for three years, $34 million.

Even at 35  this guy still gets contracts that pay him 8 figures annually.

Guess he's content with that 1 ring.

If you think the Celtics arent contending for a title this year then you're tripping. Definitely a top 4 seed in the East. Once the playoffs starts anything happens. We all know the Celtics would have smanged the Thunder in the Finals. That means the C's were one game away from banner #18. OJ Mayo is coming to play in the bean as well. Excited for this year to say the least.