OFFICIAL NFL Discussion Thread: 2015-16 Season - Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans! SB 5

[rolaholic]

I bet Olsen used to get down like Shockey back in the day at the U

 

[...So]

 

    Brady looking like Bieber circa 2010 in this pic...

 

[stillin729]

Brady wishes he had Biebs swag

Looking like the president of PTA

 

[rolaholic]

 

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    Brady looking like Bieber circa 2010 in this pic...

Or Brady circa 2010

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[macbk]

Brady wishes he had Biebs swag

Looking like the president of PTA

Looks like he is trying on his new American Eagle outfit he got for Christmas.

 

[stillin729]

Looks like he is trying on his new American Eagle outfit he got for Christmas.

Man my buddy still shops there at 33 years old, it was us and like 150 teens in the store Saturday

I felt like a child predator

 

[nick.]

just bought a jacket from American Eagle

used to get my denim from there, too until i found H&M

 

[651akathepaul]

Looks like he is trying on his new American Eagle outfit he got for Christmas.

Man my buddy still shops there at 33 years old, it was us and like 150 teens in the store Saturday

I felt like a child predator

That's embarrassing.

I wouldn't even go in.

 

[spacedoodoo]

I bet Olsen used to get down like Shockey back in the day at the U

3rd leg greg. pause 

 

[HNL HI]

just bought a jacket from American Eagle

used to get my denim from there, too until i found H&M

I dont know how people can even go in american eagle, smells like they dump bottles of cologne in their a/c vents. 

 

[stillin729]

That's embarrassing.

I wouldn't even go in.

Nicest dude in the world but he's 33 and still lives at home so that might explain it

Sunday his parents dropped him off at my crib to go watch the NHL all star at my local bar, it was sad and funny at the same time

 

[isu 42]

Man my buddy still shops there at 33 years old, it was us and like 150 teens in the store Saturday

I felt like a child predator

I felt like a creeper just walking by it the other day.  

 

[NickFolarin]

 

just bought a jacket from American Eagle

used to get my denim from there, too until i found H&M

I dont know how people can even go in american eagle, smells like they dump bottles of cologne in their a/c vents. 

That's def Hollister 

They legit spray every piece of clothing with cologne  

 

[Deleted member 37754]

7th flo crew legendary 

You would get a rep for this post.

 

[sb]

 

[macbk]

just bought a jacket from American Eagle

used to get my denim from there, too until i found H&M

My girl works in fashion so I've gotten so much new denim for free.99 .

 

[rook]

John Elway turned down a offer to own 10% of the Broncos back in 1998...10% now is worth $388 million. I know dude made crazy money by selling his dealerships but goddamn

 

[khalilmack52]

 

[hood17]

Pokemon was life.


I wonder what those games are like now. Growing up I always visioned a future game where you could go to an online world and play with or against real people. It has to be that way now.

^ looks

But I have no idea whats happening

Seems they exceeded my childhood expectations.[/quote

I'm going to get suck into that and then become unreasonably frustrated
Never had the Gameboy color games either as a child. This looks interesting tho.

 

[illoquent aka dsk]

John Elway turned down a offer to own 10% of the Broncos back in 1998...10% now is worth $388 million. I know dude made crazy money by selling his dealerships but goddamn

I just peeped that story too. 

 It ain't like Elway's hurting in the financial department, but damn.

[h1]How John Elway missed out on a fortune[/h1]
The document was dated Sept. 23, 1998, and it contained, at least in retrospect, John Elway's golden ticket to a lifetime fortune.

The deal: Denver Broncos owner Pat Bowlen would give Elway the right to buy 10 percent of the Broncos for $15 million. Bowlen would also give him the option to buy another 10 percent of the franchise by forgoing the deferred salary Bowlen owed him on the condition Elway would become a special assistant to Bowlen, which would eventually lead to a COO job. That total deferred salary? About $21 million.

But there was even more that made the deal a no-lose proposition. If Elway wasn't happy with his investment, he could sell back his interest, two to five years later, for $5 million more than his original purchase price plus 8 percent interest a year. Since the Broncos weren't making cash calls, it was essentially free money.

And then came the real kicker. If Elway agreed to the deal, he would have right of first refusal to buy any other stake in the team if the Bowlen family sold to an outsider. NFL teams don't come up for sale often.

The value of NFL franchises has skyrocketed, but even then the Broncos were worth plenty. Still, Elway had the wherewithal to easily make this deal. In 1997, he made the largest business deal an NFL player had ever made off the field by selling his car dealerships for what turned out to be $82.5 million, comprised mostly of AutoNation stock. Elway had nine months to think about the offer. The option to buy a piece of the Broncos expired in June 1999. In January, he led the team to its second straight title. In May, he retired. June eventually passed and Elway never executed the deal, which was not extended and never offered again.

Sixteen and a half years later, as the Broncos are back in the Super Bowl, Elway is a paid employee of the team with no stake in the franchise. The 20 percent stake he passed on, based on a Forbes 2015 valuation of the team at $1.94 billion, is now worth $388 million, which would have been a 646 percent return on the 1998 investment, adjusted for inflation, had he made it.

We know all of these details because the man who sold the majority stake in the Broncos to the Bowlen family in 1984, Edgar Kaiser, sued more than a decade ago. Kaiser maintained that the terms of the deal stated that Bowlen had to offer any piece of the team to him before he offered it to anyone else. The courts eventually ruled for Bowlen, but not before the deal offered to Elway became public.

As part of the proceedings, Elway testified In 2004 that he didn't take the offer because he "did not see a place for himself as an executive of the team."

But Elway still could have purchased the original 10 percent offered for $15 million. And it's not only that he passed on the deal, it's where he put his money instead.

Elway and his partner in his car business, Mitch Pierce, took that exact amount -- $15 million -- and invested in a company run by a man named Sean Mueller. That company turned out to be a $150 million Ponzi scheme and Elway and his partner were among the largest single investors. Elway and Pierce withdrew $6 million from their investment, but still ended up losing more than $7 million in the scheme when it was all said and done.

Elway squandered other money in more bad investments. Instances include:

• In January 1998, Elway, with his coach Mike Shanahan, invested in a laundromat franchise called Laundromax. The company said it hoped to do for laundry centers what Blockbuster did for video rentals. Like Blockbuster, it failed to live up to the future.

• In 1998, Elway invested in a Hispanic media company called Quepasa. He bought 133,333 shares for $500,000. By June 2000, after the stock had fallen from $27 to $1, he sold 33,000 shares at a $62,000 loss, according to SEC filings.

• In August 1999, Elway invested a "seven-figure amount" in MVP.com, an online sports e-commerce site, and became its co-chairman. A little more than a year later, it went bust.

So did his investment with Bowlen and Stan Kroenke in an Arena League team. In 2009, six years after founding the Colorado Crush, the entire league folded.

Given significant health concerns around Bowlen -- his battle with Alzheimer's was disclosed in 2014 -- Elway's name has re-emerged as a natural to at least be a part owner of the team in the near future. But it's hard to imagine he'll get anything close to the deal he passed on nearly 17 years ago.

 Had no idea my man Elway racked up a list of investment missteps. That same money he had a chance to cash in on was basically lost in a Ponzi scheme. Wow.

At least he's a great GM. 

 

 

[macbk]

Elway should have stuck with baseball

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Coulda been a Yankee great.

 

[rook]

Yeah it was a win/win situation that Bowlen gave Elway. Literally had every chance to get back his investment if he didn't want in and he still turned it down

 

[eracism]

Damn these last few days are brutal. How do these networks even talk about the SB for 10 hours a day.

 

[DadNboujee]

Elway should have stuck with baseball

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Coulda been a Yankee great.

Could've had Bo Jackson, elway, & mattingly

 

[nick.]

Rodney Harrison never had to play against a quarterback like Cam Newton. But if he did, he knows what his game plan would be: Brutality.

“If I see Cam Newton running the ball and he’s a quarterback and I’m on defense, I’m trying to hurt him,” Harrison, the former Pro Bowl safety and current analyst for NBC Sports, told Newsday on Radio Row at Super Bowl 50 on Tuesday. “I’m trying to knock him out of the game.”

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