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Again with the smoke and mirrors, too many unrealistic proposals, you can't increase jobs with increasing minimum wage to $15 or increase wages for all women while providing tuition free public colleges, free healthcare, and providing citizenship to many many illegal immigrants.

All this clapping from the audience for nothing :{ all this "happiness" just to turn into disappointments.
 
Well damb Hilary. Bernie really does need to come up more specifics, it does seem like a lotta pie in the sky.
 
BERNIE EXPLAIN ONE ******* POLICY PLEASE!!!!!!

You're gonna have to do it in the general
 
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Not like Drumpf gives any details in debates anyway but I hear you :lol,they should get these guys on podcasts man. Long and unfiltered where they can explain their policy's in full without the need to pander to a specific crowd.

Just to state that this isn't the first time single payer has been brought up in the presidential race,against Hillary no less :lol ...http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/19/obama-touts-single-payer-system
 
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Not like Drumpf gives details in debates anyway but I hear you :lol

Just to state that this isn't the first single payer has been brought up in the presidential race...http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/19/obama-touts-single-payer-system/

Obama said lets do universal now, transition to single payer down the road

Bernie is porpoising something more extreme than most liberals have ever pursued. He needs to be honest about how he will pay for it

And Hillary has a point, his numbers don't add up, he needs to stop yelling and start explaining.
 
Ending fracking is another bad idea Bernie. Protecting water supplies is an absolute must

You gonna have to explain to people that gas will go up as a result. And the that might cause the lil manufacturing jobs coming back into the states stop
 
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:rollin @ Bern not criticizing Bush

Not like Drumpf gives details in debates anyway but I hear you :lol

Just to state that this isn't the first single payer has been brought up in the presidential race...http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/19/obama-touts-single-payer-system/

Obama said lets do universal now, transition to single payer down the road

Bernie is porpoising something more extreme than most liberals have ever pursued. He needs to be honest about how he will pay for it

And Hillary has a point, his numbers don't add up, he needs to stop yelling and start explaining.

Obama laid some of the groundwork for that path though and it's a bit further along that road right now,Bern won't just be repealing Obamacare completely the way Hillary claims. Yea he's gonna have to work on explaining his plans in detail in these debates,he'll be held under closer scrutiny the longer this race drags on so he'll definitely need to explain his plans with more specifics to really resonate with folks.
 
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Don't "what?". You posted a photo shopped picture of that woman to look like a Native American sports logo.

No, to look like a native american. Never once thought it was a sports logo

Nice try on the bait though mate

These moderators are horrible. This is a disaster lol
 
We've had trickle down economics straight through since the Reagan years. Clinton and Obama are a kinder gentler version of it but they both believe that as long as GDP rises, workers will automatically do better.
 
Not like Drumpf gives any details in debates anyway but I hear you :lol,they should get these guys on podcasts man. Long and unfiltered where they can explain their policy's in full without the need to pander to a specific crowd.

Just to state that this isn't the first time single payer has been brought up in the presidential race,against Hillary no less :lol ...http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/19/obama-touts-single-payer-system

Theyve tried podcasts but unfortunately it doesnt have the mass appeal. Not that these debates get many viewers either though. Sadly a large % get everything from a few news clips, office chat, and now online clickbait articles
 
:rollin @ Bern not criticizing Bush

Not like Drumpf gives details in debates anyway but I hear you :lol

Just to state that this isn't the first single payer has been brought up in the presidential race...http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/19/obama-touts-single-payer-system/

Obama said lets do universal now, transition to single payer down the road

Bernie is porpoising something more extreme than most liberals have ever pursued. He needs to be honest about how he will pay for it

And Hillary has a point, his numbers don't add up, he needs to stop yelling and start explaining.

Obama laid some of the groundwork for that path though and it's a bit further along that road right now,Bern won't just be repealing Obamacare completely the way Hillary claims. Yea he's gonna have to work on explaining his plans in detail in these debates,he'll be held under closer scrutiny the longer this race drags on so he'll definitely need to explain his plans with more specifics.

He is fundamentally replacing the ACA though.

The public option was the ground work Obama was talking about. If it expanded big enough, the government would have the power to negotiate prices down, and one day Medicaid, the public options and Medicare could merge for efficiency reasons.

It is find to think big, but Bernie needs to be forthcoming with the details. Because the numbers just don't add up. Even liberal economist that have been screaming about single payer forever say Bernie's numbers don't add up
 
You need Frank Underwood! An America Works type program :lol

That was actually brilliant. :smokin

Bypass Congress and use FEMA money to run a beta program in the District and then sell it to the Country at large.

Unemployment is an emergency and for poor people, a bad job market is like a hurricane or earthquake, a disaster over which they had no control.
 
Wages rose in the late 1990's because Greenspan did not raise rates as soon as wages were rising, unlike every other Fed chair in the last 40 years.
 
:rollin @ Bern not criticizing Bush

Not like Drumpf gives details in debates anyway but I hear you :lol

Just to state that this isn't the first single payer has been brought up in the presidential race...http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/19/obama-touts-single-payer-system/

Obama said lets do universal now, transition to single payer down the road

Bernie is porpoising something more extreme than most liberals have ever pursued. He needs to be honest about how he will pay for it

And Hillary has a point, his numbers don't add up, he needs to stop yelling and start explaining.

Obama laid some of the groundwork for that path though and it's a bit further along that road right now,Bern won't just be repealing Obamacare completely the way Hillary claims. Yea he's gonna have to work on explaining his plans in detail in these debates,he'll be held under closer scrutiny the longer this race drags on so he'll definitely need to explain his plans with more specifics.

He is fundamentally replacing the ACA though.

The public option was the ground work Obama was talking about. If it expanded big enough, the government would have the power to negotiate prices down, and one day Medicaid, the public options and Medicare could merge for efficiency reasons.

It is find to think big, but Bernie needs to be forthcoming with the details. Because the numbers just don't add up. Even liberal economist that have been screaming about single payer forever say Bernie's numbers don't add up

If only Obeezy hadn't caved to the GOP on the public option :{,all this advancing single payer talk would be so much easier :lol. I feel you there,if I was one of his aides, I'd be drafting up some outlines to some of his plans for public release this week as they speak :lol. Seeing it explained in words would help out a lot with folks who believe all his proposals are too good to be true.
 
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We've had trickle down economics straight through since the Reagan years. Clinton and Obama are a kinder gentler version of it but they both believe that as long as GDP rises, workers will automatically do better.


We need jobs programs, unionization and a guaranteed minimum income to make wages match GDP growth.
I'm sorry, but I really think you misrepresent Obama and Hillary Clinton's position

This notion that anything sort of the most extreme progressive policy is somehow falls on the right is crazy to me.

Obama pushed for a lot of demand side policies too.
 
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