***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[jimmypiff]

trump wasnt calling ms13 animals at first

he was talking about hispanics in general

it only just dawned on him/fed to him that there is a segment of the population he can isolate and lay blame

left media didnt spin anything youre the one spinning

he said what he said

if i say all burgers are nasty and then edit myself to say no i meant burger king burgers are nasty, youre not going to tell me that i initially said buger king and meant burger king only when i said ALL burgers

He very clearly was responding to a question about ms13. Did you not watch the video in its entirety ?

 

[hand2handking]

Clear to who? To you?

What's clear to me is if he was talkin about ms13 specifically it wouldn't take this long to clarify or have needed to been at all for that matter

Regardless callin ms13 monsters and neo nazis "fine people" make clear who and what he is and what he means when he speaks

 

[frink85]

He does have a long detailed history of calling immigrants murderers, rapists, bad hombres, etc on camera

 

[jimmypiff]

I want to mention that I do not support Donald trump in any form or fashion he is disaster to this country.

But to sit here and pretend that the left media doesn't spin his words out of context to fuel their agenda would be hypocritical. He has been associating immigration reform with rapist killers etc for quite some time and that's the agenda fox news spins for their consumers. But to completely ignore a factual reality makes you seem uninformed. The news spinning is nothing new its been happening for decades, that doesnt seem to always register with the more liberal American. I'm not trying to offend you, just stating my opinions of facts. Transcripts and footage is available for free, check it out and form an opinion instead of just eating what the media feeds you. Food for thought, thats all

 

[jimmypiff]

Regardless callin ms13 monsters and neo nazis "fine people" make clear who and what he is and what he means when he speaks

This is completely besides the point, but youre right. This is an opinion we share

 

[hand2handking]

there's no spin guy

He said what he said

Then he "had to clarify"

No agenda no spin his mistake

The one who seems uninformed is you of basic common sense no offense

 

[elpablo21]

 

[jimmypiff]

there's no spin guy

He said what he said

Then he "had to clarify"


No agenda no spin his mistake

The one who seems uninformed is you of basic common sense no offense

Its a discussion on immigration reform where he called ms13 members "animals" its literally that simple lol. Regardless of how you want to feel, those are the facts.

 

[hand2handking]

you actin like ms13 are the only immigrants

Its not a matter of takin trump at his word

When he says immigration reform he's talking about all hispanics not jus ms13

He thinks of all hispanic immigrants as animals not just ms13 but for the publics sake hes only talkin about ms13 rn

Like I said he thinks all the burgers are nasty but only wants to pretend to focus on burger king for politics sake

 

[whywesteppin]

kushner?

 

[jimmypiff]

you actin like ms13 are the only immigrants

Lol im not acting like anything, I'm actually very aware that less than 1% of illegal immigrants are ms13. I am Hispanic the son of an immigrant mother, and I'm married to a refugee from El Salvador who migrated here for that very reason.

The problem is when trump associates ms13 with all immigrants or with immigration reform in general. That's all, no need for emotion and delusion.

...and yes, I agree with all points you stated. Again

 

[hand2handking]

no emotion

but you are acting like trumps words have merit or weight

because you let trump conflate ms13's threat to mean all immigrants to you

and you fell for the okey doke

of course ms13 is low numbers but you let him call them animals and make them seem a bigger issue than they are immigration wise

 

[blastercombo]

I am Hispanic the son of an immigrant mother

Oh so everything you say about this HAS to be right. Gotcha

 

[Based Jesus]

kushner?

Would be amazing if he was actually an extremely deep undercover informant. But no, he's just a *****.

 

[RustyShackleford]

I want to mention that I do not support Donald trump in any form or fashion he is disaster to this country.

But to sit here and pretend that the left media doesn't spin his words out of context to fuel their agenda would be hypocritical. He has been associating immigration reform with rapist killers etc for quite some time and that's the agenda fox news spins for their consumers. But to completely ignore a factual reality makes you seem uninformed. The news spinning is nothing new its been happening for decades, that doesnt seem to always register with the more liberal American. I'm not trying to offend you, just stating my opinions of facts. Transcripts and footage is available for free, check it out and form an opinion instead of just eating what the media feeds you. Food for thought, thats all

Da ****

Dudes really falling for the same finesse conservatives ran on America regarding balck people during the war on drugs

 

[jimmypiff]

Oh so everything you say about this HAS to be right. Gotcha

I never said that, you did

 

[hand2handking]

so if you agree with everything i said then what are arguing?

that the media makes trump look like a racist?

trump makes trump look like a racist because he is a racist

 

[jimmypiff]

Da ****

Dudes really falling for the same finesse conservatives ran on America regarding balck people during the war on drugs

Lol what?? Thats just ridiculous and has nothing to do with conservatism. The "war on drugs" is a completely separate issue from immigration reform (and was actually in the 90s when a liberal Democrat was in office) where do you see the correlation ? Explain this finesse lol

i hate to say it but this thread is riddled with vague statements with little to no factual basis.

 

[blastercombo]

I never said that, you did

Sarcasm, you feeling the need to even mention those irrelevant things proves how weak your argument is. Just move on. You said something stupid.

 

[jimmypiff]

Sarcasm, you feeling the need to even mention those irrelevant things proves how weak your argument is. Just move on. You said something stupid.

Irrelevant how ? Lol were discussing immigration reform and I'm the son of an immigrant and am married to a refugee from el salvador who came to this country because ms13 killed her entire town . Thats about as relevant as this can get lol

 

[aepps20]

Jimmy is DESTROYING LIB CONJECTURE AND INNUENDO. #SmashMouthPolitics

 

[RustyShackleford]

Bigoted Right: These people are animals

Liberals with Sense: That is racist

Bigoted Right: We meant gang members

Liberal with Sense: Don't be slick, you meant everyone. You are attacking all immigrants

Left Wing Enablers: No they did not, why are you defending gang members

Bigoted Right: HaHa!

Passes new gang laws to charge people loosely associated with the gang with crimes

Raid the houses of innocent people looking for said gang members

Impose civil forfeiture based on the argument that you being associated with a gang member makes you complicit in everything that gang does

Flood of bodies enter the ICE system, private prisons get more money, and tons of lives get destroyed

Liberal Enablers: Hey, this is wrong, why did you guys do all that. You went too far

Liberals with Sense: We ******* warned you it would happen.

Bigoted Right: HaHa

The war on drugs playbook being used to make suckas outta new people. What a time.

 

[RustyShackleford]

In the last 40 years the only thing the right wing has sold better than the dehumanization of minority groups, is supply side economics

 

[Based Jesus]

 

[RIP sleazyy]

To be fair, CNN and other outlets have said since yesterday that they reported on the animals thing completely out of context.

Realistically though we know the average outspoken Trump supporter isn't separating MS13 from other Latinos