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I mean, Bloomberg is trump with more money and a stronger grasp of the English language.
the other two idk how trump is better....
the other two idk how trump is better....
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The lie is that Trump is better than most of the Dem field just because he will display the worst of America. Your entire premise seems born out of a sense of privilege.
Your *** is not gonna wait out the Trump years in a cage in the middle of the El Paso desert, sleep on a cement floor. So it is easy to act like people should see some upside in Trump being a obvious bigot.
If you want us to see you are making a good point, then write one.
moe200069
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Again - I say more of the same.
At least with Trump you can see it.
Trump = Wolf, no coat.
Bloomberg > Klobuchar > Buttigieg =
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Bloomberg you can see it clear as day too. Anyone who follows politics knows he’s a wolf he ain’t fooling no one who knows. Amy and Pete are not ideal but I’m not gonna pretend like they just as bad or worse than those two bigots trump and Bloomberg
- May 25, 2004
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Yeah bloomberg is all the way mask off.
dude made stop and frisk, that’s straight nazi status.
dude made stop and frisk, that’s straight nazi status.
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"I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."
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He didn't make it, but he saw it, thought it was great, expanded it, and then vehemently defended after it was clear that it 1) wasn't effective and 2) was blatantly racist.
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Sidebar: There is nothing more awkward
What does that have to do with the gross inaccuracy of your statement that everyone is screwed which both Rusty and I illustrated with my mine using personal examples?
What does that have to do with the gross inaccuracy of your statement that everyone is screwed which both Rusty and I illustrated with my mine using personal examples?
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Bernie, that you brah 
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trump: donkey turned elephant
bloomberg: elephant turned donkey
these dudes will slide into whatever party that benefits them
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As a strategic matter, I will vote for Donald Trump over Bloomberg. He is the only candidate who will provoke such a reaction and it would not be out of spite, it would be a matter of damage control for the billions of non white workers in and from the global south.
It's not really about Trump at this point. It is about the barbarism and the willingness to have barbarism done in their name that exists within the vast majority of upper and upper middle class Americans. Donald Trump's aesthetics, not his actions, upset the bourgeoisie and Professional-a managerial class. His crude mannerism and appearance poke the deeply held insecurity among the well off that maybe America is not actually a meritocracy.
What has been revealed is that as long as a politician presents themselves as a smooth lawyer or confident financier, there is no limit to the drone attacks, border massacres and coups that the wealthiest 10%-20% of this country will tolerate.
Well off Americans want their McMansions, same day Amazon delivery, an upgraded iPhone every year, their Whole Foods deliveries in under two hours, their Teslas and no matter what their virtue signaling lawn signs might say, they don't want to pay any extra for it. In our current economic and political framework, that requires cheap Lithium and cheap labor, global environmental and political instability and brutal repressions of the mass migrations that result.
It needs a warlord in the White House. Trump is an inept Warlord who doesn't have universal buy in from the people who matter in our system. Bloomberg would get buy in from a lot of resistance types and he'd unleash more violence on the world's most vulnerable while Becky and Karen can finally enjoy brunch with a clear conscience once again.
It's not really about Trump at this point. It is about the barbarism and the willingness to have barbarism done in their name that exists within the vast majority of upper and upper middle class Americans. Donald Trump's aesthetics, not his actions, upset the bourgeoisie and Professional-a managerial class. His crude mannerism and appearance poke the deeply held insecurity among the well off that maybe America is not actually a meritocracy.
What has been revealed is that as long as a politician presents themselves as a smooth lawyer or confident financier, there is no limit to the drone attacks, border massacres and coups that the wealthiest 10%-20% of this country will tolerate.
Well off Americans want their McMansions, same day Amazon delivery, an upgraded iPhone every year, their Whole Foods deliveries in under two hours, their Teslas and no matter what their virtue signaling lawn signs might say, they don't want to pay any extra for it. In our current economic and political framework, that requires cheap Lithium and cheap labor, global environmental and political instability and brutal repressions of the mass migrations that result.
It needs a warlord in the White House. Trump is an inept Warlord who doesn't have universal buy in from the people who matter in our system. Bloomberg would get buy in from a lot of resistance types and he'd unleash more violence on the world's most vulnerable while Becky and Karen can finally enjoy brunch with a clear conscience once again.
Dont be like that Rusty.
Its not rationalization at all.
Facts are facts and history is history.
That pie in the sky nonesense doesnt work on everyone.
Rationalization is the fact that I will vote for ANYONE but Trump...but that wasnt the question.
The question is who would I like to see win.
If it aint Sanders, Warren, or Biden (for me in that order) then....SHAMEFUL!!!!
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the difference between a trump presidency and any of the people you listed is that trump already has the unanimous support of his party and congress to do as he pleases. even if the dems you listed are bad actors in disguise they still have to work with and appease a splintered party to get any thing done let a lone get re-elected. and then youve got the defacto resistance from the right at every turn. Im asking you where is there room for a dem to be a wolf in the party that tossed al franken out like it was garbage day? the political landscape for even the likes of bloomberg is far more restrictive on the left. As a Warren/Bernie supporter it doesnt seem rational to me that youre more fearful of a buttigieg presidency than giving trump a second term. Unless you dont think Trump is that bad of a president.
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Yea I’ve read this before your point still stupid
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You heading to that cage in the El Paso desert too?
How about letting ICE deport your wife out the country.
You gonna go without health insurance coverage for your family
You gonna feed your kid water filled with pollution.
How much of the extra carnage are you willing to take on. I am just wondering. Cause if my friends families gonna continue to live in fear of ICE, I want to tell them you gonna practice solidarity with them.
You talk about upseting the sensibilities of bourgeoisie like it is the only extra damage that will be done.
Not voting one thing, but voting for Trump is another. And like I told Present, some of you'll sound privileged as **** with this mess.
The revolution will come, but first let us intentionally martyr a ton of Innocents so people wake up and think like me.
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I’ve never been one to advocate for not voting or just sitting out an election but a hypothetical trump Bloomberg I can’t lie I would consider for the first time not voting. Never thought I would have to entertain that idea
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The question is who is better an you put Trump over a bunch of people that would do less damage.
One of the reason positive change doesn't take place in the country is because our democracy has eroded so much. Any hope of the next Bernie and Warren making any grand changes hinges on that changing. And you put the one candidate that points this out as worst than Trump because he represents the worst in America. I agree he does, but that doesn't mean him reminding us of that fact should hold any value.
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Man, I can only hope Bernie would do that. I'd be ecstatic if that happened.
Debates aren't the end all/be all, but I don't know how anyone can watch them and not think Warren has what it takes to be President. To me it isn't even close amongst the Dems we have left. Unfortunately she's up against a juggernaut in Bernie, who I also like.
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He'd authorize diplomatic and military support for coups in developing countries that try to use their natural resources to try to help their own people rather than selling their resources at below market rates to large multi national companies. Unlike Trump he'd follow through on his coup attempts. He'd likely expand the drone program to new levels of violence and further lower the threshold for firing missiles. He might just make migrants at the US border disappear rather then be put in camps. He'd try to break and spy on and arrest leaders in leftist organization in this country.
He's ruthless, check his record and how he used a municipal police force. Look at the value he places on human life of non whites. Look how willing he was spy on Muslims. Look how he handled dissent and protest in NYC. He's the ultimate enforcer for capital it's terrifying to think of what he'd do with the military, law enforcement, surveillance and financial power of the American state.
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