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His commitment to defense is making me like him more.
Official Toronto Raptors Offseason Thread . First (preseason) game in 2 days! Season Thread is up!
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The Raptors were more of a soccer team last year. Bosh is pretty, and maybe thats his problem. He's too pretty. He needs a partner who's been in theleague and get these guys playing ball with confidence. I live in Toronto and refuse to watch these guys play anymore... there i said it
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I'm actually excited about Derozan. It doesn't matter if he's not happy about being selected by Toronto, he's going to be tied up with us foryears to come unless he gets traded (3 yr rookie contract + restricted free agency afterwards).
We got our SG, BC will now need to spend the $10 mill in cap room on a starting SF. I dont think that Derozan will be a starter to begin the season so BC willhave to get a veteran SG as well (maybe spend the mid-level exception on a starting guard).
On an un-related note, Vince Carter is probably the happiest man on earth today. Gets traded to his hometown team and for the first time in his careerhe'll get to compete for an NBA title. If the Magic resign Hedo they'll have the best starting line-up in the L
We got our SG, BC will now need to spend the $10 mill in cap room on a starting SF. I dont think that Derozan will be a starter to begin the season so BC willhave to get a veteran SG as well (maybe spend the mid-level exception on a starting guard).
On an un-related note, Vince Carter is probably the happiest man on earth today. Gets traded to his hometown team and for the first time in his careerhe'll get to compete for an NBA title. If the Magic resign Hedo they'll have the best starting line-up in the L
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I like the DeRozan pick. I think he will fit in well. Its more or less the fact of keeping him in Toronto; the post draft interview didnt seem like he was tooimpressed.
With the Magic trade, BC better be getting on the horn with Hedo's agent. If we can get Hedo, were right back in the thick of things. Think of Jose +DeRozan + Hedo + Bosh + Andrea. Thats not a bad lineup at all. Not much of a three point threat like years before, but that team would work VERY well.
Please, please, please get Hedo. Dude will want out now with VC there; and my honest opinion is that the Magic are going to have a downhill slide, as we knowthat VC has his very strong commitment to winning, and putting in his illustrious amounts of extra work in the offseason... ok enough sarcasm.
Not a bad night at all. Lets just hope DeRozan doesnt fill out to stay a few years, and then jet to another american team.
With the Magic trade, BC better be getting on the horn with Hedo's agent. If we can get Hedo, were right back in the thick of things. Think of Jose +DeRozan + Hedo + Bosh + Andrea. Thats not a bad lineup at all. Not much of a three point threat like years before, but that team would work VERY well.
Please, please, please get Hedo. Dude will want out now with VC there; and my honest opinion is that the Magic are going to have a downhill slide, as we knowthat VC has his very strong commitment to winning, and putting in his illustrious amounts of extra work in the offseason... ok enough sarcasm.
Not a bad night at all. Lets just hope DeRozan doesnt fill out to stay a few years, and then jet to another american team.
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short term is the way to approach hidayet.
he's already 30.
that's not likely what he's looking for though.
he's already 30.
that's not likely what he's looking for though.
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Dude, there's something called a "Salary Cap" in the NBA. Hedo is gonna make some serious coin...I'm guessing 5 yrs/$70+million. The Raps dont have the cap room to get him.
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if someone gives Turk 5/70 deal...
that's straight ridiculous
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Delfino and Parker for cheap?
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There are far worse contracts out there. As a comparison, Vince got a 4 yr/$60 mill contract at the age of 30-31and his stats are similar toHedo's. I know the economy is bad but someone is gonna pay him well.Originally Posted by avitale8
if someone gives Turk 5/70 deal...that's straight ridiculous
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Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez
There are far worse contracts out there. As a comparison, Vince got a 4 yr/$60 mill contract at the age of 30-31and his stats are similar to Hedo's. I know the economy is bad but someone is gonna pay him well.Originally Posted by avitale8
if someone gives Turk 5/70 deal...that's straight ridiculous
their numbers are not similar, over their careers or over hedo's recent stretch.
this season vc had the worst statistical season of his career since his rookie year and his numbers were still better across the board than hedo's bestyear. \\
a commodity like vc is very different from a borderline maybe all star like hedo.
i like hidayet's game but any team paying him like a legit superstar is getting duped.
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Over Hedo's recent stretch (last 2 seasons) their #'s have been VERY similar.Originally Posted by Clutchshooter
Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez
There are far worse contracts out there. As a comparison, Vince got a 4 yr/$60 mill contract at the age of 30-31and his stats are similar to Hedo's. I know the economy is bad but someone is gonna pay him well.Originally Posted by avitale8
if someone gives Turk 5/70 deal...that's straight ridiculous
their numbers are not similar, over their careers or over hedo's recent stretch.
this season vc had the worst statistical season of his career since his rookie year and his numbers were still better across the board than hedo's best year.
Check it out...
Vince...
36+ mpg, 44-45 FG%, 39% from 3, 82% from the FT line, 5 rpg, 5 apg, 20+ ppg
Hedo...
36+ mpg, 42% FG, 39% from 3, 80+% from the FT line, 5 rpg, 5 apg, 17-20 ppg
Obviously Vince is the better scorer but he's been the #1 scoring option on his teams every single season. Hedo was putting up 17 ppg this season despitebeing arguably the 4th scoring option on the team (Jameer is debatable). Lets say that Hedo was the #3 scoring option...17 ppg is still very impressive.He'll easily average 20 ppg on a team where he's given more opportunities to shoot.
BTW, this isn't a VC vs. Hedo debate. VC has had the better career and may some day be a HOFer. I'm just saying that VC got a 4 yr/$60 mill deal aftera 20-5-5 season as a 30 year old. Hedo will get a similar deal.
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^ pretty much reiterating what im saying.
vince in a down year is still putting up slightly better numbers than hedo at his very best.
and no i dont think hedo could be a legit #1 option on a sucessful team. vc has proven that he can be.
but the main point is that vince's contract was based on the fact that he is a proven commodity whereas hedo is simply on an upswing.
again anyone paying him like it's anything more is getting duped.
vince in a down year is still putting up slightly better numbers than hedo at his very best.
and no i dont think hedo could be a legit #1 option on a sucessful team. vc has proven that he can be.
but the main point is that vince's contract was based on the fact that he is a proven commodity whereas hedo is simply on an upswing.
again anyone paying him like it's anything more is getting duped.
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Originally Posted by TheAndrea3000
Really can't wait for the season to start....now BC has to start making some changes in our roster.
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You think BC will pick up Walter Hermann? lol
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The thing about Turk's game is that it's not reliant on athleticism and speed, so he should age well. So unless he loses his shooting, ball-handlingand craftiness, he should be fine.
As for his contract, I think 5 years/$55M is the most he should get. Outside of the Magic, only the Pistons, Blazers, Grizzlies and I think Thunder can givehim that much.
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After watching the press conference I have officially been talked into Demar Derozan.
The highlights from the interviews for me....
-Dude gushes about the city every time he is asked, like any other clear headed human being you can't go to Toronto and not be enthralled and impressed.
-His commitment to playing defense and really wanting to be a defensive perimeter stopper as well as an offensive superstar in the league.
-His apparent eagerness to get to work and start playing.
Reporter: "Have you ever played against anyone who as good an athlete or better than you?"
Demar Derozan: "No.
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Be still my beating heart, but I'm sippin the kool aid hard. (nh)
The highlights from the interviews for me....
-Dude gushes about the city every time he is asked, like any other clear headed human being you can't go to Toronto and not be enthralled and impressed.
-His commitment to playing defense and really wanting to be a defensive perimeter stopper as well as an offensive superstar in the league.
-His apparent eagerness to get to work and start playing.
Reporter: "Have you ever played against anyone who as good an athlete or better than you?"
Demar Derozan: "No.
Be still my beating heart, but I'm sippin the kool aid hard. (nh)
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i wouldn't mind if BC resigned parker to come off the bench. he'd add shooting depth and veteran poise to the bench. plus i don't think he commandstoo high a salary anyway.
there is NO way toronto is gonna get hedo up here. i just don't see it.
derozan is gonna get people up on their feet once or twice a game. i think triano and his assisstants will do a fine job in developing derozan. as jay alreadystated in yesterday's interview theres a good chance demar will get a lot of minutes right away. to me thats fine, longer he plays out there with the bestin the world the sooner he'll get comfortable and let his skills take over. we have to expect a few boneheaded plays from him here and there but its partof the maturing curve for any speedy athletic guard in the league.
there is NO way toronto is gonna get hedo up here. i just don't see it.
derozan is gonna get people up on their feet once or twice a game. i think triano and his assisstants will do a fine job in developing derozan. as jay alreadystated in yesterday's interview theres a good chance demar will get a lot of minutes right away. to me thats fine, longer he plays out there with the bestin the world the sooner he'll get comfortable and let his skills take over. we have to expect a few boneheaded plays from him here and there but its partof the maturing curve for any speedy athletic guard in the league.
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rumors are HEDO is headed to Portland.
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on to marion.
i dont know how i feel about possibly resigning him.
he commands a high price for a statline that will like be similar to 12, and 7.
i dont know how i feel about possibly resigning him.
he commands a high price for a statline that will like be similar to 12, and 7.
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once he comes to his senses that teams aren't gonna pay that much for him, i'd love to see him back next season
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I wouldn't mind if we brought Marion back or if we gave Hedo $10 mill/yr.
Marion does other things well such as rebound and defend.
Getting Artest would be great if it was possible.
So it looks like the $10 mill will be spent on a starting SF, maybe the MLE will be spent on a veteran SG and maybe 1-2 more small signings.
Marion does other things well such as rebound and defend.
Getting Artest would be great if it was possible.
So it looks like the $10 mill will be spent on a starting SF, maybe the MLE will be spent on a veteran SG and maybe 1-2 more small signings.
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derozan's first raptor rookie blog
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I have a feeling he didn't write that.
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