thousandaire
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What the hell did I just watch?
Ok...Somebody explain the movie American Psycho to me....
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*waits for FreshProduct*
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idk he has a dream or sumthin?
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He imagined it all. Right? Or something.
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bet you didn't understand fight club either
thousandaire
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I thought so but then I wasn't sure...I was thinking his lawyer had covered up all the murders after he called him
thousandaire
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I thought so but then I wasn't sure...I was thinking his lawyer had covered up all the murders after he called him
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overrated.
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I've seen it once and I believe its a commentary on society as a whole. Its sort of a modern take on Hobbes philosophy and sort of the same themes asConrad's Heart of Darkness. The main character is a critique of human nature. He has everything, the wealth, the job, the looks, etc. His father runs thecompany and he is basically set for life. Yet, he is a savage murderer. He kills a homeless guy in the middle of nowhere b/c no one is looking. Basically, ifthe walls and expectations of society were not present, what would we be?? Would we still be civil? Or would we spiral into the evil person Christian Baleportrays? The main character has sort of broken away from society and just is in it to get his own pleasures. Is human nature inherently evi? Are we all livinga lie? That is what I believe the movie gets at.
Wow, that was longer than I thought.
Wow, that was longer than I thought.
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He was so vacant and materialistic that he created wild homicidal fantasies in order to bring substance to his life. His imagination and the real world collideat the end leaving the viewer uncertain about what happened. It is intentionally left ambiguous as to let you decide whether he is imagining these events or ifall his relationships are so superficial and self serving that no one really knows each other or that Bateman is capable of such horrific crimes. It attests tothe greed and obsession with image in the 80's. Additionally as with all of Ellis'works there are undertones of homosexuality. In this case hisobsession with Paul Allen. Read Less than Zero by Brett Easton Ellis if you want some of his most legit work.
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You say that as if it doesn't take at least 2 viewings...Originally Posted by Ripfan8I6
bet you didn't understand fight club either
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i hate to call you out homie but this looks like you took it off the web. is this your opinion? if it is, nice work at this time of the day.
thousandaire
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Ahhhh ok....but why does the lawyer in the end refer to him as Davis and his friends still call him Patrick Bateman?
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i hate to call you out homie but this looks like you took it off the web. is this your opinion? if it is, nice work at this time of the day.
haha its my opinion. Others would argue that the murders never happened, I think they did. As a character I hate Patrick Bateman. I found the movie interestingbut overall I hate everything about it and the fact that I know people who idolize Bateman because he lays pipe, kills, and makes money. In my opinion he isspoiled and delusional. He is everything wrong with the idolization of greed in the 80's that has carried over to today. i think in some ways thats whatEllis was going for.
Ahhhh ok....but why does the lawyer in the end refer to him as Davis and his friends still call him Patrick Bateman?
Its part of the materialistic nature of the characters. If you spend your time consuming and presenting an image that is not you are you capable of knowing thepeople around you? Everyone in the movie is confusing one another because they really don't know each other. This also helps to create the mystery ofwhether or not he committed any of the murders. His lawyer says he just had lunch with Paul Allen but does he even know who Paul Allen is? Essentiallyeverything you see is an illusion. No one is there true self. Bateman true self creeps out in his homicidal rage and sexual encounters but even then, in myopinion, they didnt happen. He would let his image be tarnished. When asked why he worked at his father company he replied something like "to fitin." That is all he strove for, being part of the lifestyle, a projected image of "success."
haha its my opinion. Others would argue that the murders never happened, I think they did. As a character I hate Patrick Bateman. I found the movie interestingbut overall I hate everything about it and the fact that I know people who idolize Bateman because he lays pipe, kills, and makes money. In my opinion he isspoiled and delusional. He is everything wrong with the idolization of greed in the 80's that has carried over to today. i think in some ways thats whatEllis was going for.
Ahhhh ok....but why does the lawyer in the end refer to him as Davis and his friends still call him Patrick Bateman?
Its part of the materialistic nature of the characters. If you spend your time consuming and presenting an image that is not you are you capable of knowing thepeople around you? Everyone in the movie is confusing one another because they really don't know each other. This also helps to create the mystery ofwhether or not he committed any of the murders. His lawyer says he just had lunch with Paul Allen but does he even know who Paul Allen is? Essentiallyeverything you see is an illusion. No one is there true self. Bateman true self creeps out in his homicidal rage and sexual encounters but even then, in myopinion, they didnt happen. He would let his image be tarnished. When asked why he worked at his father company he replied something like "to fitin." That is all he strove for, being part of the lifestyle, a projected image of "success."
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QFT, so is fight club.
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blasphemy
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It seems like one of those semi-obscure movies that film elitists like to throw in your face.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
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Seems like u enjoy Ellis a lot .. What did u think of the Less Than Zero movie? How does it compare to the book?
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I thought the movie sucked to be honest. The book is amazing. All of Ellis' work is much more graphic in literary form. bijald's explanation above ofAmerican Psycho seems like a spot on synopsis of Less Than Zero. The movie is a tamed down 80's film while the book contains snuff films and kids pokingdead bodies, all sorts of craziness. Never the less I think it speaks to the decensorization of the last couple decades along with the notion of what do you dowhen you are given everything without working for it. What entertains you and where do you draw boundaries? I can relate to Less Than Zero a lot more thanAmerican Psycho in that I know I should care about watching a video of someone getting killed but at this point I've scene so many and have not beenchastised for it so what is stopping me. The kids in Less Than Zero know what is going on but there are no boundaries. Patrick Bateman was soulless and to mejust pathetic to me. He had no clue what was really happening. Maybe its worse to know and just go about your everyday life but it seems like thats the societywe have and Less Than Zero summarizes that. So what I'm saying is the movie doesn't compare. None of Ellis' work translates well to film. Rules ofAttraction probably did the best job at that. Sorry for the tangent there.
thousandaire
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Damn you on point with the analysis' my guy
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I don't think the murders ever happened, Bateman thinking them is kind of like his therapy. He shows a lot of signs of being lost within reality, and heeven tells you 'I'm simply not there'.
The lifestyle he lives only worsens his departure from reality, which is why the people close to him don't even realize that he is thinking of this crazy+*$%. That's why significance lies in the mistaken identity between the characters- the world Bateman lives in is so monotonous that these fantasies he hasseem very real.
I was convinced the murders did not actually happen when he goes on the shooting rampage near the end. If he had really shot that many people, which includedseveral NYPD, the whole city would have known his name.
The lifestyle he lives only worsens his departure from reality, which is why the people close to him don't even realize that he is thinking of this crazy+*$%. That's why significance lies in the mistaken identity between the characters- the world Bateman lives in is so monotonous that these fantasies he hasseem very real.
I was convinced the murders did not actually happen when he goes on the shooting rampage near the end. If he had really shot that many people, which includedseveral NYPD, the whole city would have known his name.
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I have not seen the movie yet, but by the looks of it it sucks
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I just saw the movie for the first time a couple of days ago, and I thought it lacked a little bit of depth.
I did, however, see where almost every investment banker I know gets their %%@%#%@!# personality from.
I did, however, see where almost every investment banker I know gets their %%@%#%@!# personality from.
thousandaire
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Idk the whole movie just seemed weird, like how Bateman would always leave and say "I need to return some video tapes"...and people would just act asif he said something regular.
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I don't think the murders happened
